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Dominus/Armiger knights will be overkill against the Titans, unless they get a rule change, and 1 banner limit like the Porphyrion knight.

On the other hands, Mechanicum Questoris knights will be a completele waste of time unit to make kit in this game, unless they also got a rule change, like the Inferno cannon.

Seems strange that they've decided there's no future to this game given that the Warlord was their best selling miniature in 2018. Oh well.

For the sake of Household-vs-Household games, either the Dominius or Armiger seems the logical next step.

For the near future...probably a new Titan and the Cerastus upgrades.

JWBS wrote:
Seems strange that they've decided there's no future to this game given that the Warlord was their best selling miniature in 2018. Oh well.

"There will be new Adeptus Titanicus stuff coming out soon - check the community website in a couple of weeks. "

Uuhh say what?


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Chopstick wrote:
Dominus/Armiger knights will be overkill against the Titans, unless they get a rule change, and 1 banner limit like the Porphyrion knight.

What you mean by overkill? To be overkill would indicate they destroy them with ridiculous ease when dominus would be between questor and poryphorion and armiger would be weaker than questor.

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 ImAGeek wrote:
This was posted by Vogon on Bolter and Chainsword who was at the open day yesterday and spoke to people there:

There will be new Adeptus Titanicus stuff coming out soon - check the community website in a couple of weeks.
They will be going Warhound size Ursus Claws. Now they have all the core weapons they will be able to make the more esoteric stuff. While chatting they dropped serious hints about a book covering the shadow crusade in Ultramar and the legions involved.

Bring on the weird weapons and titans! Please don't just be FW stuff though, I can't justify $40 for two guns, fortunately I have an extensive bits box to make most of their current stuff myself.

Unfortunately, seeing as some of the ‘normal’ weapons are Forge World already, I’d assume the weirder stuff will be Forge World.

Well, they had to make something non-knight in plastic.

 ImAGeek wrote:
This was posted by Vogon on Bolter and Chainsword who was at the open day yesterday and spoke to people there:

There will be new Adeptus Titanicus stuff coming out soon - check the community website in a couple of weeks.
They will be going Warhound size Ursus Claws. Now they have all the core weapons they will be able to make the more esoteric stuff. While chatting they dropped serious hints about a book covering the shadow crusade in Ultramar and the legions involved.

...you're all going to die.


EMBER WOLVES!

While I would rather they'd released some sort of news this weekend, "coming soon" at least shoes they remembered us...

Sounds also they are now also speaking of infantry and vehicles as something they would like to expand one day. My wallet is crying already.

tneva82 wrote:
Sounds also they are now also speaking of infantry and vehicles as something they would like to expand one day. My wallet is crying already.

They are?

What's the quote/where's the quote?

"Adeptus Titanicus There will be new Adeptus Titanicus stuff coming out soon – check the community website in a couple of weeks. They will be going Warhound size Ursus Claws. Now they have all the core weapons they will be able to make the more esoteric stuff. While chatting they dropped serious hints about a book covering the shadow crusade in Ultramar and the legions involved. On the subject of AI and AT there are certainly plans afoot to expand on them in the seminar they mentioned there are 10,000 years of history to explore and the war of the beast and gargants could be one place to explore. They also said they would like to add tanks and ground troops (basically bringing back Epic) but this was a long way off. If they did it would likely be in the Heresy Era because that it the domain of specialist games and they can do what they like with it without having to defer to the main studios.

Source: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2020/01/games-workshop-40k-titanicus-horus-heresy-battlefleet-gothic-news-plans.html"

We always knew that if AT did really well they'd eventually add tanks and infantry back into the game. They've just always said either "no" or "a very lon gway off" because it really is likely a good 5 or more years before we'll see them.

I still really hope that they advance things forward enough to add more xenos.

Adding in Ork and Eldar titans would be a good start, but nice to see the dream of an epic return of Epic is still alive!

So they have mentioned Ursus claws...

...methinks another set of Warhounds is in order!

With the current pacing, it'd probably take a decade for an epic game with imperial, chaos and a few xenos unit. I always wanted to see a Wraithknight land on top of a warlord and pry it open like a can, or cook the whole crew, so much possibility.

I still expect Epic to be a separate rules set, albeit one where we can field our Titans.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I still expect Epic to be a separate rules set, albeit one where we can field our Titans.

Oh there's no doubt it would have to be its own rules set. AT might get away adding one or two mega tanks like Baneblades and such; but otherwise a full epic return would need a totally different rules system.

The other campaign book that's been mentioned -- Siege of Kado? -- suggests the arrival of Chaos engines if you read the old fluff.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I still expect Epic to be a separate rules set, albeit one where we can field our Titans.

It will almost certainly be that - and that's a good thing!

Chopstick wrote:
With the current pacing, it'd probably take a decade for an epic game with imperial, chaos and a few xenos unit. I always wanted to see a Wraithknight land on top of a warlord and pry it open like a can, or cook the whole crew, so much possibility.

Yeah I'd have to say 10 years is a good guess at this point. Given the upcoming expansion of the specialist studios and the great sales though we could see the first stuff in maybe 5 or 6 years once all the titans, knights, and Chaosy bits have made their appearence. I am happy just buying proxy models from places like Vanguard until that time comes though!

I believe they said they have six(?) Titan chassis in development. So yeah...Epic is probably far away. Look at how long it took for them to release all the additional weapons for the three Titans we got in 2018.

If we do get six more Titan types I hope the maniple rules get a rework. With nine chassis in the mix the amount of combinations(and duplication) would be ridiculous.

A second "titanicus-scale" game I had expected last year...but going forward I'm not so sure what will come next...

I will make a wild guess on a game I sadly did not have the pleasure of back in the day, and others will need to chime in on this one. I have a strong feeling AT will stay as it is in the Horus Heresy with loyalists and traitors, but another game - Titan Legions? - will deal with xenos titans'n'knights and tanks, and the setting will be in modern 40K. If both AT and AI are succssful then I predict such a game could appear within two years.

While AT is a success, getting started is still frustrating. An abridged version of AT, using Knights is painfully obvious and could act as either an introduction or a companion/booster to the full game itself.

Alternatively, a reworked(scale wise) Imperial Knights:Renegade is glaringly obvious too, and two sets of Qs and they are done. Nice simple game.

A game of tank battles is another possibility...

I went and read the source material, and the BOLS article is taking great liberties with what was reported. Nowhere is there mention of bringing back Epic.

They mention expanding the AT and AI lines, and then branch of on the HH as a separate topic. BOLS seems to have conflated the two.

And we know the next two books are purportedly Seige of Kado (Hive world of Kado) and Battle of Calth and Shadow Crusades (Ultramar). No idea which one first though.

 schoon wrote:
I went and read the source material, and the BOLS article is taking great liberties with what was reported. Nowhere is there mention of bringing back Epic.

They mention expanding the AT and AI lines, and then branch of on the HH as a separate topic. BOLS seems to have conflated the two.

And we know the next two books are purportedly Seige of Kado (Hive world of Kado) and Battle of Calth and Shadow Crusades (Ultramar). No idea which one first though.

The source I'm looking at mentions them wanting to add tanks and infantry to Titanicus and/or Aeronautica, but that this was 'a long way off'. It refers to the 'Heresy Era', rather than the Heresy game.

I'm down for Epic-scale Assassin (vindicare, eversor and the like). Epic scale marine, not so much...

At least a vindicare had enough punch to put a dent on a Titan, the current "titan hunting squad" stratagem in the game is really meh.

 gorgon wrote:
I believe they said they have six(?) Titan chassis in development. So yeah...Epic is probably far away. Look at how long it took for them to release all the additional weapons for the three Titans we got in 2018.

Then again it's going to be around 2020 fall it's 2 years since AT was launched. Presuming they weren't commiting to new plastic before they see sales it's starting to be around summer when we could be seeing first plastic that was decided to be done after game launch. Or more realistically september-october. That's when any new plastic that got greenlighted after launch would be likely coming.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
If we do get six more Titan types I hope the maniple rules get a rework. With nine chassis in the mix the amount of combinations(and duplication) would be ridiculous.

Wouldn't that be trivially easy? Just change maniples to [light], [medium], and [heavy] slots, done. Some might be locked to particular type of titan (like Gryphonicus heavy use of Reavers) but besides that, it would require literally five minutes of work to make an errata...

Chopstick wrote:
I'm down for Epic-scale Assassin (vindicare, eversor and the like). Epic scale marine, not so much...

At least a vindicare had enough punch to put a dent on a Titan, the current "titan hunting squad" stratagem in the game is really meh.

It's realistic though. A few S5 attacks from the stratagem is equivalent to a squad carrying a bunch of lascannons, which is the most you could expect of a "titan-hunting" WH40k infantry squad.

If you compare back to Epic Armageddon, a Warlord in a firefight is roughly equivalent to 8 Devastator stands. Compare those with an AT18 Warlord model and it would be silly, all 40 marines could fit into the barrel of its gun...

Much as I love Epic, I can understand them not setting out to do this from the start, because "realistic" infantry/vehicles would be so ineffective against "realistic" titans there would be no balanced way of having them in the same game.

Something like a Vindicaire could be a stratagem (say a 2+ "Moderatus Wounded" or "Princeps Wounded" crit that ignores void shields due to grimdark magic sniper bullets) but really, how is he hurting it? It's not like the crew or its seating positions are exposed, and all the squishy bits of the titan are hidden away inside.

Patriarch wrote:


Something like a Vindicaire could be a stratagem (say a 2+ "Moderatus Wounded" or "Princeps Wounded" crit that ignores void shields due to grimdark magic sniper bullets) but really, how is he hurting it? It's not like the crew or its seating positions are exposed, and all the squishy bits of the titan are hidden away inside.

Vindicare assassin is not a strictly anti infantry unit, they have the tool for every target, Turbo Penetrator round was made specifically for Vehicle with thick armor. The Exitus weapons and ammo is amongs the finest weapons the Imperium had ever produced.

And I only mention the Eversor because he's carry a Melta bomb, which he could fill role as some kind of suicide bomber with a more potent device, like a vortex weapon.