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Eumerin wrote:
Wow. The rotary cannon has rotary cannons. If played "correctly", that would be an *insane* number of extremely weak shots.

Nah that's just a fancy muzzle. I did at some point have a rotary cannon made from 6 assault cannons on my stompa tho

Well I've took the plunge and ordered a load of Battlebitz stuff before GW shuts them down....

beast_gts wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I'm not surprised at GW doing this and I'd wager that at some point Hollywood and Video games will also hit the 3D STL market as well - there's a good few fan-arts being sold through patreons and the like all around at present. GW is just faster because this is their entire core market; whilst for those others they are key markets for merchandise, but not their bread and butter markets.

The problem is once they're out there, they stay out there. A few years ago someone hacked into Piranha Games and stole the 3D models from MechWarrior Online, then turned them into STLs - they're still playing whack-a-mole with eBay / etsy / shapeways / etc. to get them taken down.

I guess by that you mean "they extracted the models from the game's intallation folder using off-the-shelf CryEngine conversion programs", and that PGI actually sorta gave permission to use them but not really, as long as it was not for profit, right?

Also, the ones doing the whack a mole thing ain't PGI, mainly on the grounds that they don't even have rights to produce physical models.

Eumerin wrote:
Wow. The rotary cannon has rotary cannons. If played "correctly", that would be an *insane* number of extremely weak shots.

Nope, just the barrel style.

Well, the macro gatling blaster is a really weak gun. It also looks like a weapon from Dead Rising where people duct tape 6 lead pipes together.

Remember, a Gatling Blaster basically is 6 Leman Russ battle cannons. A Macro Gatling Blaster is a larger version of that. They are only "weak" in comparison to plasma weapons and the like, but then their purpose is different.

Saying macro gatling is weak is just daft from both lore and gameplay perspective. It isn't. On tabletop it's a great (and cheap) multitool against shields and injured titans due to accuracy and Ordinance, in lore it's like walking around with a battery of howitzers.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Eumerin wrote:
Wow. The rotary cannon has rotary cannons. If played "correctly", that would be an *insane* number of extremely weak shots.

Nope, just the barrel style.

How disappointing.

And how disappointing that GW and/or FW haven't yet made a rotary cannon made of rotary cannons. That seems as if it would be something suitably over the top!

Eumerin wrote:
And how disappointing that GW and/or FW haven't yet made a rotary cannon made of rotary cannons. That seems as if it would be something suitably over the top!

Orks have you covered:

That much Dakka is a thing o' beauty, that is!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/30/sunday-preview-warhammer-skulls-adepta-sororitas-pre-orders-and-that-crab-you-love/

FW Volkite weapons next week

I'm wondering if they'll come with weapon cards. Really hoping the rules have somehow changed from the ones they previewed, beam is cool for the warlord one but the other two need something, maybe they'll make voidbraker better somehow.

Where did the rules for volkite weapons appear? I seem to have missed them.

 Crablezworth wrote:
I'm wondering if they'll come with weapon cards. Really hoping the rules have somehow changed from the ones they previewed, beam is cool for the warlord one but the other two need something, maybe they'll make voidbraker better somehow.

Iracundus wrote:
Where did the rules for volkite weapons appear? I seem to have missed them.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/25/pop-void-shields-like-bubbles-with-adeptus-titanicus-new-volkite-weapons/

This article has some details on the weapon rules but doesn't show the whole card. I'm hoping they missed some key detail, such as the Rapid or Shieldbreaker trait as what we've seen is pretty underwhelming.

I'd assume the weapons come with a card each, unless they're planning on sneaking out the traitor legions book pretty damn quickly.

Looks like the Volkite destructor is already sold out!

They come with the card. From the FW site:

“It also includes a weapons card detailing the rules for using the gun in your games.”

 zedmeister wrote:
Looks like the Volkite destructor is already sold out!

They're also a 2-week pre-order:

Pre-order product that will be delivered from 18/06/2021.

 zedmeister wrote:
Looks like the Volkite destructor is already sold out!

No suprises there, really

Volkite is indeed very underwhelming, but I'd consider picking one up just to have it.

That is, if everything else I wanted to fill out my order wasn't coming up "SOLD OUT no longer available". I can wait, but FW really needs to fix the messaging there, assuming they intend to bring all that stuff back. It's just going to drive people to OTHER sources, and I can't even blame those people if they think it's gone forever.

 gorgon wrote:
Volkite is indeed very underwhelming, but I'd consider picking one up just to have it.

That is, if everything else I wanted to fill out my order wasn't coming up "SOLD OUT no longer available". I can wait, but FW really needs to fix the messaging there, assuming they intend to bring all that stuff back. It's just going to drive people to OTHER sources, and I can't even blame those people if they think it's gone forever.

100% agree, there's fear of missing out and there's complete demoralization and disaffection with a company, just them including the cards is good enough in my eyes to show they're at least thinking or possibly even listening to us and thinking, but then the supply is terrible. No point not going to other sources if fw doesn't even want to meet the demand. The battle bling stuff looks great.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Volkite is indeed very underwhelming, but I'd consider picking one up just to have it.

That is, if everything else I wanted to fill out my order wasn't coming up "SOLD OUT no longer available". I can wait, but FW really needs to fix the messaging there, assuming they intend to bring all that stuff back. It's just going to drive people to OTHER sources, and I can't even blame those people if they think it's gone forever.

100% agree, there's fear of missing out and there's complete demoralization and disaffection with a company, just them including the cards is good enough in my eyes to show they're at least thinking or possibly even listening to us and thinking, but then the supply is terrible. No point not going to other sources if fw doesn't even want to meet the demand. The battle bling stuff looks great.

Agreed. I contacted Forge World about the extent of the weapons options that were all 'Sold Out- No Longer Available', because I was kind of surprised that stuff that has been out 1-2 years is simply no longer going to be sold. The rep told me, via email, not to worry, as those weapons options were being repackaged and would be offered for sale again in a different listing fairly soon. Assuming that's true, that's good news (maybe they are going to be selling the smaller options only as a set, or something).

However, why wouldn't you communicate that to your customers? What reason would you have to tell customers that the weapons options were simply discontinued, when you were actually planning on just releasing them in another packaging? Why only tell people who email you about it what is going on? Would n't it be better to just tell people that the weapons will be returning in some format soon?

Having chatted in Warhammer world store, the only things that have gone gone are the battle boards. Everything else is due back in stock at some point.

Its either a trickle of a handful at a time or in the case of the Psi Titan, waiting for a stock of Warlords to be available.

I missed a small batch of Psi at WW by a couple of days

Da Butcha wrote:

Agreed. I contacted Forge World about the extent of the weapons options that were all 'Sold Out- No Longer Available', because I was kind of surprised that stuff that has been out 1-2 years is simply no longer going to be sold. The rep told me, via email, not to worry, as those weapons options were being repackaged and would be offered for sale again in a different listing fairly soon. Assuming that's true, that's good news (maybe they are going to be selling the smaller options only as a set, or something).

I wonder if they're going to start selling all of the resin FW weapons with their weapon card, then repackage the plastic titans to have the terminal / card pack that we saw in the new maniple box. That way they can discontinue all the separate weapon card packs, which are rapidly becoming obsolete anyway as new options are released.

It's not just repackaging, there's also an error on the GW/FW webstore which misslists at times. It's likely been there for a while, but we never really spotted it because its not until this last year that things have sold out so regularly and so fast.

They posted another "article" about them, I'm not even going to bother linking it. Still no real rules preview just a couple paragraphs of fluff talking about their rarity, maybe that's a joke at their low supply. 2 weeks of pre order even though they're already gone and released on the 18th, super. Maybe sometime between now and then they'll respect my intelligence enough to inform me what the thing they want to sell but have no stock to sell me actually does in game.

 Crablezworth wrote:
They posted another "article" about them, I'm not even going to bother linking it. Still no real rules preview just a couple paragraphs of fluff talking about their rarity, maybe that's a joke at their low supply. 2 weeks of pre order even though they're already gone and released on the 18th, super. Maybe sometime between now and then they'll respect my intelligence enough to inform me what the thing they want to sell but have no stock to sell me actually does in game.

Sometimes i wonder what the point of a 2-weeks long preorder is, if everything just sells out within a day or a few.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
They posted another "article" about them, I'm not even going to bother linking it. Still no real rules preview just a couple paragraphs of fluff talking about their rarity, maybe that's a joke at their low supply. 2 weeks of pre order even though they're already gone and released on the 18th, super. Maybe sometime between now and then they'll respect my intelligence enough to inform me what the thing they want to sell but have no stock to sell me actually does in game.

Sometimes i wonder what the point of a 2-weeks long preorder is, if everything just sells out within a day or a few.

It's certainly strange in a world with 3d resin printers only limited by time and resin. Really glad they're including the cards, maybe they'll make more some day. +

The disconnect between the stats and fluff text was so disconcerting that I almost didn't order any.

I'm hoping beyond hope that they made some adjustments...

Strength 5 is about right in comparison to HH,7th ed rule and similar weapon. The bigger volkite weapons have haywire rule, which all titans have immunity to.

Chopstick wrote:
Strength 5 is about right in comparison to HH,7th ed rule and similar weapon. The bigger volkite weapons have haywire rule, which all titans have immunity to.

These are bigger than the Carronade from the Glaive and that also had the Beam rule. Shame the Eradicator version doesn't have Beam as that is bigger than the Carronade but the Destructor does. Beam would at least make the smaller version a bit more interesting to take as the Voidbreaker rule as it stands is a bit naff.