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2017/03/18 01:23:10
Subject: Re:The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
It's not about being an expert or professional etc
It's about building our community! and that includes the experts
Since almost everyone comments, it helps a lot. Having a certain group not participate just not to scare off newbs isn't productive imo. It just means we don't get to see as much terrain from everyone as we might imo.
If you're a total terrain newb - take heart!! We're all stretching and trying new ideas, even 'experts' it doesn't always come out, it's just about building it. So give it a go and don't worry about your skill level. If you have questions ask! Everyone is very helpful and it helps us all learn more, you never know when your question might actually be something no one's actually thought of before!
I'm really against the idea of people dropping out because they don't want to win again but I wanted to give it some thought before chipping in.
a) I like to be challenged in any kind of competition and I think other people are the same, so it's healthy to have an array of skill levels participating. As I said on graven's blog, I'd rather get beaten at something a hundred times than win a hundred times if it means I'm having to constantly push myself to be better.
b) If winners withdraw themselves from competing then it devalues the victory of the next winner. They'll never know if they could really have beaten the champs or if the victory was a freebie.
c) I think the point of this is less about the competition and more about the participation and motivation to hobby. I think that is getting a bit lost here, it really is the taking part that counts.
The main aim of these competitions is to encourage gamers and model-makers alike to go that extra mile when building terrain that can be used for playing your preferred tabletop wargame (or similar pastime - for example, a board game playing piece would be acceptable). Those taking part can expect to receive ideas, inspiration, encouragement and feedback from each other, and at the end each of the participants is "rewarded" with a new piece of terrain for their own use (that's the thing you just built).
I'd really like to see everyone get involved and do their best.
For the veterans:
You are more than welcome to enter and compete.
If y'all want to sit out this round and help out as a judge, that's fine by me.
If you want to audit, and still build but not be considered in the running to "win", that's OK. Half the point of participating is to create something. It's a friendly competition.
Comments, suggestions, and good vibes are welcome and encouraged.
Ok, that's enough banter. Not a lot of pictures yet people. Only a couple on the first page. Break out the glue! Affix Xacto knives! Come on you apes, you wanna live forever?
This is all meant to be fun, above all else.
You don't have to compete in every round, you can still use the theme or any ideas that surface during the contest for inspiration and build along without entering, or just follow along and share ideas or cheer on those that are taking part. You can even offer your services as a judge (if you like suffering ). Take part in any way you can.
Nice to see so many of you are just happy to be here.
As Cleatus said, time for some photos.
I've had a rummage in my boxes and come up with some shapes to start with.
Here's some photos to show what I may start with (items may change in form, position, arrangement, or presence), a scale shot with Necron number 1 and a shot of my tube options (25 you say for full bonus points, Cleatus... ).
Cheese box, Old aerial splitter/amp box, plug transformer box... Possibly some kind of refinery or some such, pipes everywhere is what I see.
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2017/03/18 22:35:13
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
All those tubes sends my mind reeling with ideas! Seeing everyone's first pictures is the most exciting bit I think.
Mine will be coming in a week or two, I've got to order something because I'm OCD and it needs to be the exact size I want, haha! After that I'm going to really go for this one, try some new stuff and see what I can come up with, it's about time I did some actual painting that I don't strip immediately. That alone will be a huge push for me.
The idea of building and showing off a piece of scenery at the same time as others is what gives me motivation to actually build some of my ideas. The competition doesn't really come into it. Howeverver that being said all pro,s eventually retire.
May get something done if I can rate myself away from my guard, will be watching intently for people's ideas on this interesting theme.
One idea I've had and doubt I'll do is modular suspended half pipes to go across the board made from bog roll.
2017/03/21 23:00:30
Subject: Re:The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
Some progress:
Taking my own advice from previous rounds, I have reinforced the cheese box with a sprue frame (not to be considered for my sprue use, it's just convenient) and a combination of polystyrene foam and cardboard. It can now stand to be handled without buckling significantly. Additionally held in with tissue/PVA after the photo.
Then I affixed that and the splitter box (after gluing flat pieces to the rear of the holes to help attaching tubes etc.) to a base made from 4 CDs. You should be able to see their shape from the bottom shot. Where they "overlap" I've removed parts so that they don't overlap and give a flat base.
This was then covered with tissue/PVA.
A couple of structural (gap filling) jobs to do next and then pipes, many many pipes...
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2017/03/21 23:19:32
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
@Ruglud- I'm pretty sure we added you to the LOER before. If not, I dub thee a Riveter right now! You've proven yourself.
You guys don't have to WIN entry you know....just rivet...extraordinarily. I'm pretty sure myself and the rest of the Founders agree. We invented the secrecy and mythos just for fluff purposes
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2017/03/22 13:54:16
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
dsteingass wrote: @Ruglud- I'm pretty sure we added you to the LOER before. If not, I dub thee a Riveter right now! You've proven yourself.
You guys don't have to WIN entry you know....just rivet...extraordinarily. I'm pretty sure myself and the rest of the Founders agree. We invented the secrecy and mythos just for fluff purposes
Completely agree. Definitely Ruglud, thought we had done that some time ago, and though I am no founder, I won my banner not from winning a competition, but from competing and putting in the Rivets.
@ DrH Looking good, fairly large entry. Refinery eh! Cool.
I have an idea, that is buzzing about in my head but it is ridiculous, so we will see. And you know how bad it must be if I think it is ridiculous!
Put this on my Orkishness blog (see sig), but thought I would drop it here.....
Spoiler:
Rivetting stuff....the way I do it anyway
Standard rivetting, Prepare the kit...styrene rod of your choice. Here I have 1mm and 2mm, I cut it with the knife, about a dozen at a time.
The needle is a sewing needle with a silly bit of melted plastic to assist with grip. Use this to place rivets. I tend to put down poly cement, then rivet then come along after with thin Tamiya. This I find seals the rivets well in place.
Optional extra here, I flash a blowtorch over the rivets and I get a more domed top ...
Place your rivets in a relatively logical manner, even orks would do this, not very tidally but rivets where needed.
OK so you want to put a band of rivets around something...
Start by getting a thin piece of styrene, glue just the first few mm and allow to dry properly.
Then once dry you have an anchor point to pull the band around tightly. These are orks so my band will overlap. Again I put down a coat of poly cement, give it a second or two then place the part, while holding it in place a run a bead of Tamiya around it, letting it wick in, this sets really fast, so you should only have to hold it for a few seconds. 10 minutes and it is set solid.
Drill some holes, some will remain holes, some will have another form of rivet in, you do not have to drill for every rivet.
The really round rivets are an idea from DrH, the beads from the silicone packs you get in stuff to keep the moisture down, these have to be superglued in, and I drill a small divot for them to go in. Once dry you can sand them down. Here they just add variety.
You may notice I have a loose rivet, I like to add these as it really adds to the ramshackle appearance, this is just a 1mm rod with the end heat treated and flattened on the bench. Cut off and a hole drilled for it to be glued in...
And thats that arm just about ready for paint...
Oh the shoulder kept bugging me because it was so heavy it dropped a little, so fixed a piece of sheet material behind the rotating shoulder joint witha piece of sand paper stuck on the inside to add friction. unless you are daft with wagging it back and forward it should last a long time and the friction means the arms stays exactly where you put it...
And finally, not the last method I use but another option for rivets and banding...GS...
This is good if you have an uneven variable surface, place a bit of GS on and make a strip..
Take a nail punch, various sizes available and
Press in where ever you want a rivet...
Now I hope I have not upset anyone, I hope it is useful to somebody. As I have said this is my way, I find it very therapeutic and zen like settling down to rivet up something. dsteingass is a master here as is Viktor von Domm, Many years ago on Dakka Arakasi used to do some amazing work as well, Check these guys out. There are many others who inspire me, just mention these as my early influence.
Hope it helps.
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2017/03/22 16:26:54
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
Doesn't even need my mumblings for being a riveteer, ruglud you're sweating rivets like anybody so I think you secured that title through your works long ago...
Apropos...I definitely need to build something soon and it will have rivets, you be sure of that...my last rivet has been placed at least a year ago...°.°
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2017/03/22 21:10:54
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2017/03/22 21:34:06
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
well...let me put it this way... got the idea from my wife, and she regularly provides me with materials...
know these rolls of lightweight plastic bags at the groceries?... well here they´re made of nice sturdy and uniform looking cardboard tubes... so...plan is to create a nice long pipeline setup....this alone will provide the need for lotsa rivets...but if everything goes well...then i plan also some need stairs and walkways...
Aww shucks... I'm humbled to be accepted into the League. Long may the Rivets reign supreme
Give me a few weeks to finish the iron man costume and ill be back to models with a vengeance, plus potentially some tubular musings
As an aside. My thoughts and prayers to all those affected by the the terrible events in London today. Why can't we all just get on and live in peace with one another....
Thanks. I wanted to use up some of the larger items in by collection of "things that may be useful one day" and this is how large it has become. I don't think it's going to be particularly tall though, but that may change if the tubes require it...
It's a refinery in so much as that's the only definition that I can think of at the moment, what it ends up as is anyone's guess...
Nice tutorial too.
Viktor von Domm wrote:*ouch* got some ointment for that burnt?...
Here you go Vik:
I too had assumed Ruglud was a member of the League. Welcome aboard.
Progress, and tubes...
I'm going to try and incorporate as many different pipe/tube connections as possible, as well as many diameters of pipe/tubes.
Other than that, I don't have much of a plan where it's going, just many many snaking, intertwined pipes.
I've found that a combination of hot-glue and superglue is good for joining tubes together (that aren't polystyrene); the hot-glue can extend into the tube and give a larger surface area to hold the two halves together. Superglue helps keep the joint rigid.
Cleatus: How are you counting tubes used?
What I have here is only made from 3 original tubes, cut into more than 20 pieces and reassembled into 2-3 tubes/pipes (if you don't count the wire).
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2017/03/23 00:33:57
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
Consider this "starting materials" pic requirement fulfilled.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2017/03/23 00:38:44
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
Yeah, nothing wrong with going big. Just make sure that you have enough time to get something of the scale you are thinking done, in the time we are given. The bonus points for keeping to a CD sized model was to make entrants think twice about the scale of the model they are planning, and to hopefully get more people finished in the timescale of the contest. If everyone starts seeing others building huge models, they may think "I need to make mine bigger"... so on until everyone is building massive models but no one finishes in time.
Thought for the day.
Mutual support: While each individual pipe made from parts may be quite weak and easily broken on the battlefield (table), make sure there are many cross-links; snake a pipe from one set to another set of pipes, run many pipes along the same line and glue them along their length.
This way, you build up a 3D structure that's rigid in all directions, not a set of individual pipes that can flex and bend and break.
This is what I've been doing today:
It's not going to be easy to paint once it's done, but when have I ever let that stop me...
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2017/03/24 02:11:36
Subject: The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
Spray black, mist grey, brown and dark red (maybe with a crackle spray?), then just... drip paint down over it. And clear nail polish, PVA glue, a little dust...
Organic!
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2017/03/24 11:11:57
Subject: Re:The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
Havne't had a real chance to get going yet, got some ideas - basically something I've been wanting to do that's more SciFi oriented and goes with my promethium pipes (although I'm dying to go to the hardware store and also make up my own pipes for that as well, that's a project for another day.)
All I can say for now is two three things:
1. my boys and hubby helped immensely
2. it involves 3 pringles cans (see #1)
3. OMG Ruglud wasn't a Riveter already?! I thought for sure he was!!
Great to see so much discussion and progress being made.
Dr H, looking good! Nice use of sprue for structural support. And tubes, glorious tubes.
Uh, how am I counting tubes used... I suppose pieces of tube are technically tubes. If you cut a tube in half, do you not have 2 tubes? So I suppose each pipe section is technically a tube if we're counting.
Cam, ridiculous ideas are welcome. Heck, encouraged.
Vik, sounds promising.
Ruglud, we'll be waiting for you.
dsteingass, excellent, nice to see you throw your hat in the ring.
kestral, your project don't have to be small. It's just a suggestion.
inmygravenimage, my entry for LOER #21 was only 6"x6"x5". It just looks bigger.
KINGPIN54, nice start!
All this creativity warms my heart, ladies and gentlemen. Happy riveting this weekend!
Small IS alot more likely to get done. Nice tube stuff folks!
I could do the pipeline project I've envisioned since my first 40K game I suppose.
I spent half an hour planning out a mobile alter with a huge pipe organ on the back, until I suddenly realized I was basically building an excorist. Might still do it though.
I do have a mobile walking tripod factory project that involves lots of smoke stacks.
I've been planning a set of sewer terrain that has some potential, and lots of pipes.
I have a gladitorial arena project that would use many tubes and is kind of where my interest is right now. It is based on the strangest toy ever - the battle hamster arena:
2017/03/25 16:13:53
Subject: Re:The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #22 "A Series of Tubes".
My #2 son was into Hamtaro for a LOOOOOONG time... He'd have loved that toy lol (not that Hamtaro is about battling, it's just about hamsters)
also Lol'ing about the hamsters not included sign...
gathered my materials, not all may be used, but I have ideas for most of it (also ignore Pathfinder in background we're in middle of Emerald Spire campaign)
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