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We know it's Soulblight, we've seen the icon...additionally the roadmap has Idoneth in there so we're hovering around the 'cap' they seem to use for a season's faction representation if no Stormcast are involved.


Order: Lumineth, Idoneth, Seraphon.
Destruction: Spiderfangs(presumably)
Death: Ossiarch Bonereapers and Soulblight.
Chaos: Slaves to Darkness and Hedonites.

Shadow Aelves or Soulblight are the two things I'm next expecting from GW for AoS in terms of army releases and such. They are two things that have been hinted about for ages - Malarion has been specifically hinted at for ages whilst Soulbight have been very active in the lore and stories and such.

Both are solid choices to appear and its honestly surprising that we got armies like Ossiarchs before them (if just because Ossiarchs didn't have any real build-up to them besides sneaky Shadspire hints which were cryptic enough that we never guessed it was a whole bone and soul construct army

That hip plate on the silhouette looks just like the hip plates on the Lumineth Cow-hammers. Is there such a thing as Aelven vampires? Maybe something to do with Mistweaver Saith from Silver Tower? Aesthetic is kinda similar

Yeah, not blown away by these guys, bit of a shame.
Noses and ears on the skinks look odd, though different paintjob may obscure that a bit. Glad to see they didn't carry over the Blood Bowl design for the heads, but the eyes on these look too small and narrow if anything. Pretty muscular too, which isn't a first (Tehenhauin and the chief with the stegadon helmet were too), but it never looked right to me for those soft little things.

Chameleon is still entirely adorable though.

 GaroRobe wrote:

Quasistellar wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I like the new warband, and I hadn't noticed the dew claw thing until it was pointed out. I'd rather not have seen that as it makes no sense whatsoever in relation to theropod claws.

Yep. Can’t Unsee regarding the dew claw. Still gonna buy it though because aside from that I think they’re great and my wife loves them.

What about the skink earholes? I can't unsee them either

They're tiny, barely noticible, and you can cut them off if they bother you. They're really a non-issue for me. Even the dew claw issue is minor IMO.

Those Lizardmen are a bit of a let down. Always hoping for a badass Saurus redesign, always disappointed.

 Da Boss wrote:
Those Lizardmen are a bit of a let down. Always hoping for a badass Saurus redesign, always disappointed.

I think the Saurus is okay, but just that.

But design wise GW dropped the ball on updated saurus long enough that 3D print designers came along and ate their cake.

 Da Boss wrote:
Those Lizardmen are a bit of a let down. Always hoping for a badass Saurus redesign, always disappointed.

Honestly, the Saurus- and Kroxigor models have always looked derpy to me. And Total War's redesign of some of the models certainly hasn't helped with that impression.

JSG wrote:
You could say that but it does contradict what female chaos warriors have looked like for decades. I think the first was John Blanches "Chaos Amazon" which was a kind of response to the chainmail bikini trend in fantasy art at the time. Also, at that point it's like why even make a female model? You could point to any chaos figure and say "oh that one's a woman".

Wait a second - that's Belladonna!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kinda tempted by these. Getting into my painting recently, and Underworlds warbands do look to be decent palette cleansers to break up larger projects.

Indeed!
I have no intention of ever playing Underworlds, but have picked up quite a few boxes of the exelent models just for painting.

I don't play Underworlds, either, but I find the warbands to be really great self-contained skirmish warbands for several other rulesets, that can give me the feel that Warhammer Skirmish fell short of delivering. My son loves dinosaurs, and I will definitely grab these Seraphon for when he hopefully starts gaming with me in a year or two. There are really excellent 3D sculpts of models that work insanely great as Saurus, and Kroxigor, especially, that can be added to them.

Danny76 wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm not really sure why Chaos Warriors that are female should have to follow the theory that they would look feminine. Chaos Warriors, both female AND male, are just completely normal humans that have been magically 'roided out to be damn near the size of a Stormcast. Why would any Chaos God worry about keeping any female Champion particularly busty or hippy when giving them a new form built for raw power?

This isn't genetics and scientific processes we are talking about, here. These are platemailed forms enhanced by the same powers that allow a Tzaangor or Dragon's head to split in half and continue to function, without it's brain falling out on the ground. Or to have a Champion have a cavernous belly-mouth where their guts should be. Where do all their guts get moved to??

At least Stormcast have the excuse that they have been remade into more "perfect" statuesque forms of both genders, so female Stormcast are going to look different than the men.

Just look at many (not necessarily all) female body builders as an example of this.
Generally muscles and such grow and boobs don’t. Once in chaos armour, I just don’t think you’d see either way.
Particularly with the fluf Of chaos warriors even back in the old world and their armour etc.
They could have always been women in there too arguably..

Wrongful thinking. Miniatures are not there to replicate reality but to encapsulate fantastic elements.
So according to this, a female chaos warrior would look tall, buff and attractive. She can even be equipped with combat stilettos and boobplate.
Once in a while mini collectors would like to paint such minis in contrast to endless rows of skeletons, goblins and space marines. If you don't like female models in cheesecake armour just don't buy them.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm not really sure why Chaos Warriors that are female should have to follow the theory that they would look feminine. Chaos Warriors, both female AND male, are just completely normal humans that have been magically 'roided out to be damn near the size of a Stormcast. Why would any Chaos God worry about keeping any female Champion particularly busty or hippy when giving them a new form built for raw power?

This isn't genetics and scientific processes we are talking about, here. These are platemailed forms enhanced by the same powers that allow a Tzaangor or Dragon's head to split in half and continue to function, without it's brain falling out on the ground. Or to have a Champion have a cavernous belly-mouth where their guts should be. Where do all their guts get moved to??

At least Stormcast have the excuse that they have been remade into more "perfect" statuesque forms of both genders, so female Stormcast are going to look different than the men.

Just look at many (not necessarily all) female body builders as an example of this.
Generally muscles and such grow and boobs don’t. Once in chaos armour, I just don’t think you’d see either way.
Particularly with the fluf Of chaos warriors even back in the old world and their armour etc.
They could have always been women in there too arguably..

Wrongful thinking. Miniatures are not there to replicate reality but to encapsulate fantastic elements.
So according to this, a female chaos warrior would look tall, buff and attractive. She can even be equipped with combat stilettos and boobplate.
Once in a while mini collectors would like to paint such minis in contrast to endless rows of skeletons, goblins and space marines. If you don't like female models in cheesecake armour just don't buy them.

Having a different view from yours on aesthetics is not wrongful thinking. People want there miniatures for different reasons. It sounds like you would like them to be more of a Boris Vallejo diorama than a “realistic” approach, like some of the infinity ridiculous “sexy anime” poses. That’s fine to want that from your miniatures, but for a mainstream company to make something that is alienating to a good chunk of the population is probably not a prudent path. It’s not 1995 anymore-it’s not 97% neckbeard dudes playing miniature games anymore and that is a positive. For miniatures designed for a fame “just don’t buy it” doesn’t work if you have to deal with an opponent showing up with a bunch of models as you describe.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Once in a while mini collectors would like to paint such minis in contrast to endless rows of skeletons, goblins and space marines. If you don't like female models in cheesecake armour just don't buy them.

If I understand what you've written, you're identifying as a mini-collector and expressing disappointment that these models aren't being sold to cater to your interests. I'd like to reassure you that these figures are being sold to cater to a lot of other people's interests, and you've got plenty of other models that you can buy that will cater to yours.

To be frank, the biggest opportunity that I think GW missed out on is using the pronouns they/them (modern gender neutral) instead of he and she for each of the four figures.

Removed - Rule #1 please

Either/Or wrote:

.. It’s not 1995 anymore-it’s not 97% neckbeard dudes playing miniature games anymore and that is a positive. For miniatures designed for a fame “just don’t buy it” doesn’t work if you have to deal with an opponent showing up with a bunch of models as you describe.

The demographics are pretty much the same as they were in 95, but your options are thankfully broader. You can use whatever minis you like, and if you don't like his minis you can do a runner and then later write a lengthy tumbler post detailing your discomfort, for example.

Let’s get back to Underworlds, shall we, lads?

I find the lizardmen warband to be a bit of hit and miss. The Saurus warrior being the obvious odd one out in terms of quality of design. Quite a missed opportunity, which is odd how it was possible to make - there is a great design of the oldblood on carnasaur, they should’ve e just copied it and changed the pose, scale it down a little.

The skink heads look a bit weird, but not bad. The features have been somewhat changed from the “original” skinks.

The new direction in which the ork heads are headed is atrocious in comparison.

Is it oly me that find the march-scheduled warband silouettes to be suspiciously Idoneth-y?

I do hope so! Would love to paint up a Idoneth warband!!

 Sikil wrote:
Is it oly me that find the march-scheduled warband silouettes to be suspiciously Idoneth-y?

I do hope so! Would love to paint up a Idoneth warband!!

I think they look very vampiric, me.
And their symbol loooks like a bat-skull. So that's my bet.

March Vampires, June Idoneth.

Really not feeling the Seraphon band either but mostly due to the introduction of the "Asterism" mechanic, seems like more and more warbands are going to get this kind of thing and with "Hunger" and "Primacy" in the core set it might get tricky to keep track of who can do what.

 Sikil wrote:
Is it oly me that find the march-scheduled warband silouettes to be suspiciously Idoneth-y?

I do hope so! Would love to paint up a Idoneth warband!!

The June warband is almost guaranteed to be Idoneth. And I doubt they'd get two warbands in the same season. Stormcast and Khorne have in the past, but that's because the former has a ton of different chambers to theme around and the latter have "big guys" and "little guys" to divide the warband into. Same with how Ironjawz got 'ard boyz and then brutes for their warbands. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a saurus only warband, given that the seraphon one is pretty skink-heavy.

The silhouette does seem a bit pirate-y, though. And people think the undead guy from the teaser is also pirate themed. Maybe the rumor people are right, and we'll get Vampire Coast themed dead guys, which could be a good foil for Idoneth. And we're still waiting to see what the crab claw picture goes to. Maybe a sea monster-frankenstein ghoul..?

 Sikil wrote:
Is it oly me that find the march-scheduled warband silouettes to be suspiciously Idoneth-y?

I do hope so! Would love to paint up a Idoneth warband!!

Then you want June.

The March warband is Soulblight Vampires. April is unknown, but presumed to be Spiderfang Grots. May is Ossiarch Bonereapers.
June is extremely likely to be Idoneth. It's possibly going to be Shadowkin devoted to Malerion but the rune feels closer to something Idoneth than something Realm of Shadow-y.

JWBS wrote:
The demographics are pretty much the same as they were in 95

You should actually go to a store or club sometime (at least one where seedy types didn't made everyone they don't like feel unwelcome), you'd see how wrong it is. Or look up photos from '95 because your memory is (to be generous) pretty faulty.

You can use whatever minis you like, and if you don't like his minis you can do a runner and then later write a lengthy tumbler post detailing your discomfort, for example.

Funny, because the only ones I see here whining in lengthy posts are parler types complaining these damn wimminz and [insert color/region] don't stay in kitchen anymore and """ruin""" the game by demanding miniatures actually being representative of setting and its inhabitants instead of thinly veiled excuse to show tits and stuff said types never get to see in person.

I wonder, why the creepy types can't be the ones to use one of zillion alternatives for the thirsty (Raging Heroes, CC, Manufactura, KoD, plus like 500 others) and it's the vast majority that wants normal minis needs to be the ones suffering for it? Maybe, just maybe, it's the creeps who should do a 'runner' and go play in safe space basement with sticky figures, it's no longer 1950s anymore.

 Irbis wrote:

JWBS wrote:
The demographics are pretty much the same as they were in 95

You should actually go to a store or club sometime (at least one where seedy types didn't made everyone they don't like feel unwelcome), you'd see how wrong it is. Or look up photos from '95 because your memory is (to be generous) pretty faulty.

You can use whatever minis you like, and if you don't like his minis you can do a runner and then later write a lengthy tumbler post detailing your discomfort, for example.

Funny, because the only ones I see here whining in lengthy posts are parler types complaining these damn wimminz and [insert color/region] don't stay in kitchen anymore and """ruin""" the game by demanding miniatures actually being representative of setting and its inhabitants instead of thinly veiled excuse to show tits and stuff said types never get to see in person.

I wonder, why the creepy types can't be the ones to use one of zillion alternatives for the thirsty (Raging Heroes, CC, Manufactura, KoD, plus like 500 others) and it's the vast majority that wants normal minis needs to be the ones suffering for it? Maybe, just maybe, it's the creeps who should do a 'runner' and go play in safe space basement with sticky figures, it's no longer 1950s anymore.

Why are you spending your time reading what sound to be quite misogynistic complaints online? Seems a strange way to spend your time. Are you sure you're actually doing this? Also, have you ever met a woman, particularly one in this hobby? They don't, in fact, need to be protected from fantasy tits, they often kind of like them, as with many who enjoy fantasy female and male physiques often seen in represented in fantasy miniature form. It's actually quite a draw for some people. The majority of those complaining about 28mm boobs are some version of this guy and the only reason he thinks ladies need to be protected from mildly racey fantasy tropes is because he's never met one, and relies mainly on this guy for his takes. Assuming that you're not one of these fellows (hey, there's a chance), I suggest you clutch your pearls a bit less tightly. There are other venues for you to express your puritanical views. Try contemporary womens clothing, that could be quite fruitful for you, some of the stuff they wear around my way is pretty spicy.

Sorry what's this got to do with Underworlds

Not alot, time to drop it.

I'm pretty excited for the reveals of the two unknown warbands. Especially the destruction warband, as there is a good opportunity for something new and exciting, especially for a small skirmish sized game like this.

I am also looking forward to the cards, and learning about the mechanics of the new warband inspire conditions.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sikil wrote:
Is it oly me that find the march-scheduled warband silouettes to be suspiciously Idoneth-y?

I do hope so! Would love to paint up a Idoneth warband!!

Then you want June.

The March warband is Soulblight Vampires. April is unknown, but presumed to be Spiderfang Grots. May is Ossiarch Bonereapers.
June is extremely likely to be Idoneth. It's possibly going to be Shadowkin devoted to Malerion but the rune feels closer to something Idoneth than something Realm of Shadow-y.

The token pack also has ‘Shoal’ tokens. I’d say Idoneth are all but guaranteed.

Warhammer Underworlds: Direchasm has been out for a little while now, and we’ve already unveiled three warbands for the new season, including the Starblood Stalkers – the first Seraphon to enter the living mountain.

We know there are four left on the current roadmap (more on that below), and everyone’s eager to see what’s next. Luckily, you don’t have long to wait… Not long at all, in fact. Here’s the first fighter from a new Death warband that will be joining the fray very soon.

Updated Roadmap:

Article here.

She looks good - Happy