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 455_PWR wrote:


An everchosen set of dismounted Varanguard would be freaking awesome too! Heavily armored, uniquely decorated chaotic knights with demon powered weapons, what more could one ask for! Pretty please gw?

Yes please. I've been hoping for some dismounted generic AOS sized Chaos warriors since the game came out. Though with how nasty the Varanguard are, and how pretty much all the other factions are composed of line troops, that might be out first two model team. Or I suppose they could do three AOS sized Chaos warriors and I would still be happy.

I am wishing for a Vampire and a couple of her living minions - could make an interesting and different team?

Got a demo today, and wow - the game felt excellent! Can't wait for more options

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but where (other than this thread!) is a good place to find news/tactics/faqs or just general game info?

And this game is just begging for a deck builder app! So far, looks like the tightest ruleset GW has ever made, by far. I'm very excited for it, and hadn't thought I would be.

So the Undead look amazing in this and are tipping me over into ‘solid buy’ territory here. Their whole “resurrect to Inspire” thing and the boss being the lynchpin of the force is very old-school 3rd/4th/5th edition WFB and hits right in the nostalgias.

The game looks great, but I'm not buying in unless there is already an established community. I'm at a point in my gaming and personal life where I'm not willing to put in the time and effort to be a founding member. As it stands, there is not a community and I haven't seen any local stores set up Shadespire events. I'll probably just give it 3-6 months before making a decision. If there still aren't any events, my assumption will be that this is just another unsustainable GW board game... good for the occasional game with a friend, but largely sold just for the models.

 Kriswall wrote:
The game looks great, but I'm not buying in unless there is already an established community. I'm at a point in my gaming and personal life where I'm not willing to put in the time and effort to be a founding member. As it stands, there is not a community and I haven't seen any local stores set up Shadespire events. I'll probably just give it 3-6 months before making a decision. If there still aren't any events, my assumption will be that this is just another unsustainable GW board game... good for the occasional game with a friend, but largely sold just for the models.

Yeah man how dare there not be a large and thriving community less than a week after the game comes out. Clearly the game is dead already because there wasn't a 100 person tournament yet...

Oh wait there's already a 100 person tournament next weekend. But the game is unsustainable with no community!

Requizen wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
The game looks great, but I'm not buying in unless there is already an established community. I'm at a point in my gaming and personal life where I'm not willing to put in the time and effort to be a founding member. As it stands, there is not a community and I haven't seen any local stores set up Shadespire events. I'll probably just give it 3-6 months before making a decision. If there still aren't any events, my assumption will be that this is just another unsustainable GW board game... good for the occasional game with a friend, but largely sold just for the models.

Yeah man how dare there not be a large and thriving community less than a week after the game comes out. Clearly the game is dead already because there wasn't a 100 person tournament yet...

Oh wait there's already a 100 person tournament next weekend. But the game is unsustainable with no community!

Nobody asked for your crappy sarcasm. What I actually said is that I'd give the game 3-6 months to build a community. If there still aren't any events at that point, I'm not going to bother buying in. My assumption is that no local community in 6 months means no local community at 12 months.

I also don't care even a little about tournaments that aren't local. I don't play Star Wars Armada because Gencon has a big tournament each year. I play because half a dozen local stores each have a local event every couple of months. If Shadespire has a handful of massive tournaments with no actual local events, I'm not going to bother with it. For context, I live on the east coast of the US, somewhat near Philladephia. We have dozens of really solid stores within an hour or so of where I live. When I say local, I'm counting a large area with very healthy X-Wing and Armada communities. On the surface, Shadespire's organized play experience seems to be modeled after those games.

 RiTides wrote:
Got a demo today, and wow - the game felt excellent! Can't wait for more options

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but where (other than this thread!) is a good place to find news/tactics/faqs or just general game info?

And this game is just begging for a deck builder app! So far, looks like the tightest ruleset GW has ever made, by far. I'm very excited for it, and hadn't thought I would be.

I'd join the official FB page or reddit page /rwarhammerunderworlds.

 Kriswall wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
The game looks great, but I'm not buying in unless there is already an established community. I'm at a point in my gaming and personal life where I'm not willing to put in the time and effort to be a founding member. As it stands, there is not a community and I haven't seen any local stores set up Shadespire events. I'll probably just give it 3-6 months before making a decision. If there still aren't any events, my assumption will be that this is just another unsustainable GW board game... good for the occasional game with a friend, but largely sold just for the models.

Yeah man how dare there not be a large and thriving community less than a week after the game comes out. Clearly the game is dead already because there wasn't a 100 person tournament yet...

Oh wait there's already a 100 person tournament next weekend. But the game is unsustainable with no community!

Nobody asked for your crappy sarcasm. What I actually said is that I'd give the game 3-6 months to build a community. If there still aren't any events at that point, I'm not going to bother buying in. My assumption is that no local community in 6 months means no local community at 12 months.

Of course you did. It's a discussion forum, not a blog with the comments turned off, any time you post something that purposefully goes against the grain you're opening up conversation. And when it's something hyperbolic like "well if it doesn't work in my area then obviously it's a complete failure from GW", you get the responses you get.

Not every game works in every community. Nobody at our local store plays Malifaux or Warmachine, I'm not going into those threads talking about how dead they are and how unsustainable it is.

I'd never thought of an unmounted Varanguard unit.

More of them have been on my wishlist for some time. They're great (overpriced) models that need more love!

I'd imagine 2 or 3 would be a pretty comparable match for the Stormcast.

Hope to get our first game in this weekend. Best watch out Barzam!

Varanguard are more like Chaos Lord, they are in a much higher level than the Stormcast Liberators.

Indeed Varanguard are closer to Lord/Warlord title, which is comparable (but still lower) to the Runefather from Fyreslayer and Warlord from Skaven team.

I'm waiting for some kind of Blade dancer Aelves team tho. Hopefully there're one in season 2.

Requizen wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
The game looks great, but I'm not buying in unless there is already an established community. I'm at a point in my gaming and personal life where I'm not willing to put in the time and effort to be a founding member. As it stands, there is not a community and I haven't seen any local stores set up Shadespire events. I'll probably just give it 3-6 months before making a decision. If there still aren't any events, my assumption will be that this is just another unsustainable GW board game... good for the occasional game with a friend, but largely sold just for the models.

Yeah man how dare there not be a large and thriving community less than a week after the game comes out. Clearly the game is dead already because there wasn't a 100 person tournament yet...

Oh wait there's already a 100 person tournament next weekend. But the game is unsustainable with no community!

Nobody asked for your crappy sarcasm. What I actually said is that I'd give the game 3-6 months to build a community. If there still aren't any events at that point, I'm not going to bother buying in. My assumption is that no local community in 6 months means no local community at 12 months.

Of course you did. It's a discussion forum, not a blog with the comments turned off, any time you post something that purposefully goes against the grain you're opening up conversation. And when it's something hyperbolic like "well if it doesn't work in my area then obviously it's a complete failure from GW", you get the responses you get.

Not every game works in every community. Nobody at our local store plays Malifaux or Warmachine, I'm not going into those threads talking about how dead they are and how unsustainable it is.

I actually expect polite discussion... almost as though it's a forum rule. You're putting words in my mouth and being almost openly hostile. I said that there isn't currently a real community. That's true. One or two isolated events that the overwhelming majority of the potential player base doesn't have access to does not change that. I also said that I'd wait 3-6 months to see if a community does develop. I at no point called the game a "complete failure from GW" or even implied that it was a complete failure. The game is brand new. Obviously there isn't going to be a rich and varied community with events every 10 minutes. I'm just hesitant because I'm not seeing ANY signs from ANY of the stores in my fairly widespread area that Shadespire is even beginning to catch on. Nobody seems excited about it. I didn't see any launch events occur. Is it a failure? Not yet. Will it be a failure? I hope not, but we're likely to know within 3-6 months whether or not it's going to catch on. This is something completely new from GW. I hope they get it right. Time will tell. They don't have a history of supporting anything other than their core games for the long haul.

Kriswall, sometimes all it takes is one friend. The entire GW based community around here was started by my friend and I. We had armies and convinced his friend and a family member to start armies. We would play each other at our flgs. Folks would walk in (esp around Christmas time), ask questions, watch us play, and buy sets. Now the community is huge and I only play a select few on my personal table at home. Did the same thing for WWX here too. Never let anyone else touch my models, didn't spend time making huge tournament arrangements, just had fun playing.

If you buy one starter set ($51 on ebay) and get a friend to get a set, it's as easy as meeting and playing eachother at your flgs. Folks will ask questions and watch you play. You don't even have to let them use your stuff, I'm sure a percentage of them will buy it - esp with how cheap it is! After you get a group of 4-6, ask your store manager (or email gw) for prize support. Then set up a day and bam, you have prize support and a local gaming community.

You could even run it like blood bowl around here. We use a facebook group, but it's run from the flgs. You have one week to meet your opponent and get a game in,, then post your results. You can meet and game at the flgs, a restaurant, your home, a park, wherever. No nonsense, no pressure atmosphere with minimal effort which helps when life gets busy. Oh, and then you won't have to pay those pesky ebay prices for a few promo cards, you'll most likely have them all if your group is semi small.

Just some suggestions, this game is too good to pass up!! Quick bloody fun... and cheap for gw and compared to other popular boardgames!

 455_PWR wrote:
Kriswall, sometimes all it takes is one friend. The entire GW based community around here was started by my friend and I. We had armies and convinced his friend and a family member to start armies. We would play each other at our flgs. Folks would walk in (esp around Christmas time), ask questions, watch us play, and buy sets. Now the community is huge and I only play a select few on my personal table at home. Did the same thing for WWX here too. Never let anyone else touch my models, didn't spend time making huge tournament arrangements, just had fun playing.

If you buy one starter set ($51 on ebay) and get a friend to get a set, it's as easy as meeting and playing eachother at your flgs. Folks will ask questions and watch you play. You don't even have to let them use your stuff, I'm sure a percentage of them will buy it - esp with how cheap it is! After you get a group of 4-6, ask your store manager (or email gw) for prize support. Then set up a day and bam, you have prize support and a local gaming community.

You could even run it like blood bowl around here. We use a facebook group, but it's run from the flgs. You have one week to meet your opponent and get a game in,, then post your results. You can meet and game at the flgs, a restaurant, your home, a park, wherever. No nonsense, no pressure atmosphere with minimal effort which helps when life gets busy. Oh, and then you won't have to pay those pesky ebay prices for a few promo cards, you'll most likely have them all if your group is semi small.

Just some suggestions, this game is too good to pass up!! Quick bloody fun... and cheap for gw and compared to other popular boardgames!

I absolutely agree that setting up a gaming community is fairly easy if you have the time and resources. I used to run a GW store. I can do it, I just don't want to spend my limited time doing so.

I'm at a point in my life where I play a few different games and don't really have the time to drive a new community. I've got a corporate job where I frequently have to stay late. It pays loads more than GW, but I have less control over my average day. I'd happily attend an event once a month (or more often if I have the time), but I definitely don't have the time to play weekly or help run events. Regardless of how good a game is, if there aren't regularly scheduled events, it doesn't have a lot of appeal for me. I'm really hoping I do start to see accessible events though, because this game does look pretty solid.

I'm in the opposite boat. I WANT to be able to be the founding member of the Shadespire community in my area but with how inconsistent my job is, there is zero chance for me to make a Shadespire night and be there to support it every week.

So now I'm just hoping that various places pick it up and support it on different days so that way I can hit one whenever I have a day or night off.

Requizen wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
The game looks great, but I'm not buying in unless there is already an established community. I'm at a point in my gaming and personal life where I'm not willing to put in the time and effort to be a founding member. As it stands, there is not a community and I haven't seen any local stores set up Shadespire events. I'll probably just give it 3-6 months before making a decision. If there still aren't any events, my assumption will be that this is just another unsustainable GW board game... good for the occasional game with a friend, but largely sold just for the models.

Yeah man how dare there not be a large and thriving community less than a week after the game comes out. Clearly the game is dead already because there wasn't a 100 person tournament yet...

Oh wait there's already a 100 person tournament next weekend. But the game is unsustainable with no community!

It's entirely reasonable for someone with limited time/energy to wait and see if a game will be successful, quit being a jerk.

I dunno.

Much as it’s good and normal to get started when a game has an existing community, turning up your nose due to the lack, and not wanting to be one of those gaming pioneers is counter productive. And possibly a little selfish if you ask me. But hey, just an opinion.

Sorry if this has been clearly said, but are Ork/Skellies up for pre-order tomorrow... or the following Saturday?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I dunno.

Much as it’s good and normal to get started when a game has an existing community, turning up your nose due to the lack, and not wanting to be one of those gaming pioneers is counter productive. And possibly a little selfish if you ask me. But hey, just an opinion.

Why would you consider that selfish? I'm legitimately curious. I have an extremely limited amount of free time. Why am I being selfish by choosing not to spend that time doing what is effectively community service?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Sorry if this has been clearly said, but are Ork/Skellies up for pre-order tomorrow... or the following Saturday?

Tomorrow for pre order, for sale next saturday.

You can get them a day early at the Grand Clash event in Derby though.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Sorry if this has been clearly said, but are Ork/Skellies up for pre-order tomorrow... or the following Saturday?

Pre-orders tomorrow, apparently. Written this Sunday on Warhammer Community:

You’ll be able to pre-order Ironskull’s Boyz and the Sepulchral Guard expansions next week.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/10/22/new-weeks-previews-whats-next-for-shadespire/

Will there be foil cards for the ironskullz and undead, like for the first factions? If so, how do you get them? I got the first ones from buying in store, wasn't sure if that's true here.

Looks like it:

zamerion wrote:
from faeit


dice for each band : /

 RiTides wrote:
Will there be foil cards for the ironskullz and undead, like for the first factions? If so, how do you get them? I got the first ones from buying in store, wasn't sure if that's true here.

Not sure if you mean sleeves, or alternate card art like the greenish double sided ones you could get for ordering early on. There will be sleeves for all four initial factions at the very least. I haven't heard anything about alternate cards for ironskullz and undead. But pre orders should be up on the NZ site within the next couple hours. I'm personally interested in seeing how the dice look.

delete wrong thread

 Thargrim wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Will there be foil cards for the ironskullz and undead, like for the first factions? If so, how do you get them? I got the first ones from buying in store, wasn't sure if that's true here.

Not sure if you mean sleeves, or alternate card art like the greenish double sided ones you could get for ordering early on.

Ah yes, I meant the alternate card art - I highly prefer these! I got them in a GW store, are you saying they were also included with preorders? I hope they're making them for all factions...

 RiTides wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Will there be foil cards for the ironskullz and undead, like for the first factions? If so, how do you get them? I got the first ones from buying in store, wasn't sure if that's true here.

Not sure if you mean sleeves, or alternate card art like the greenish double sided ones you could get for ordering early on.

Ah yes, I meant the alternate card art - I highly prefer these! I got them in a GW store, are you saying they were also included with preorders? I hope they're making them for all factions...

I ordered my box from an ebay seller store, he slipped in the pack of the alternate cards loose in the box. I wasn't expecting that at all but it was a nice suprise for sure. Hopefully they do them for all factions though.

 RiTides wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Will there be foil cards for the ironskullz and undead, like for the first factions? If so, how do you get them? I got the first ones from buying in store, wasn't sure if that's true here.

Not sure if you mean sleeves, or alternate card art like the greenish double sided ones you could get for ordering early on.

Ah yes, I meant the alternate card art - I highly prefer these! I got them in a GW store, are you saying they were also included with preorders? I hope they're making them for all factions...

I was under the impression that kind of stuff was going to be offered as prize support for official play.

 LunarSol wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Will there be foil cards for the ironskullz and undead, like for the first factions? If so, how do you get them? I got the first ones from buying in store, wasn't sure if that's true here.

Not sure if you mean sleeves, or alternate card art like the greenish double sided ones you could get for ordering early on.

Ah yes, I meant the alternate card art - I highly prefer these! I got them in a GW store, are you saying they were also included with preorders? I hope they're making them for all factions...

I was under the impression that kind of stuff was going to be offered as prize support for official play.

I think there’s alternate alternate cards for prize support.