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Yeah he looks badass, like the Kal Jericho of the Mortal Realms! I would love a mini like that.

 Bottle wrote:
Yeah he looks badass, like the Kal Jericho of the Mortal Realms! I would love a mini like that.

The problem is he would probably replace the Gunmaster, and who knows what rules we will be missing out on then.
I have not forgotten how the "Gunmaster" replaced the first AoS "Empire master engineer" and suddenly we cant make pidgeon bombs!

 Fayric wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Yeah he looks badass, like the Kal Jericho of the Mortal Realms! I would love a mini like that.

The problem is he would probably replace the Gunmaster, and who knows what rules we will be missing out on then.
I have not forgotten how the "Gunmaster" replaced the first AoS "Empire master engineer" and suddenly we cant make pidgeon bombs!

Pidgeons no longer exist on any of the new Realms.

They went extinct because people kept strapping bombs to them.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Yeah he looks badass, like the Kal Jericho of the Mortal Realms! I would love a mini like that.

The problem is he would probably replace the Gunmaster, and who knows what rules we will be missing out on then.
I have not forgotten how the "Gunmaster" replaced the first AoS "Empire master engineer" and suddenly we cant make pidgeon bombs!

Pidgeons no longer exist on any of the new Realms.

They went extinct because people kept strapping bombs to them.

You can still use the old, post release rules, IIRC. So pidgeon bombs are still viable.

Or upgrade them to bomb laden Gryph-hounds.

....don't look at me like that it works for squigs!

From Facebook:

Vandus Hammerhand and Khorgos Khul are two of the greatest warlords of the Mortal Realms - their conquests are equaled only by their bitter rivalry and hatred for each other.

Soon, these iconic heroes will not only be available separate from the main Warhammer Age of Sigmar game, but they will get their very own dedicated Warscrolls just as such epic heroes deserve.

I wonder if anything else in the starter set will get a separate release like the Khorgorath or Lord-Relictor

Well, time for me to finally get the model of Vandus Hammerhand off Ebay for 15 bucks before GW releases the same model alone for $35 or more!

I'm happy that they get their own warscrolls. I know their characters representing generic models but for such key figures its nice to see them get some special rules of their own. Especially since they've both gotten an upgrade at this point.

Huh. I do wonder if vandus and Khorgos will be given the keywords: lost celestant on dracoth and mighty lord of khorne. Just adding those would make them available for plenty of batallions, specially Khul's own goretide.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm happy that they get their own warscrolls. I know their characters representing generic models but for such key figures its nice to see them get some special rules of their own. Especially since they've both gotten an upgrade at this point.

It will be interesting to see how they differ from there generic versions. Does this herald the start of separate releases for the rest of the starter set characters? Or is it because Vandus and Khul are not in the Thunder and Blood box?

I'm fairly sure to bet that they are gonna be released alone because the new Starter-Box little don't has them.

Coming next week for Age of Sigmar, priced at the same point as the Start Collecting sets:

Thunder and Blood contains miniatures, rules, scenery and painting information in one box and makes the perfect starter set to begin playing Warhammer Age of Sigmar. The box contains 44 Easy to Build miniatures from the Warhammer Age of Sigmar boxed game (80-01) supplied in red and gold plastic, a reversible tray used as scenery and carton play mat. It also includes a painting guide, the core rules, 4 battle plans, 8 war scrolls, as well as dice a range rule paper gaming mat and a scenery piece allowing you to get started straight away.

Also, Korghos Khul and Bloodsecrator in one box and Vandus Hammerhand in another, £25 a piece.

MongooseMatt wrote:
Coming next week for Age of Sigmar, priced at the same point as the Start Collecting sets:

Thunder and Blood contains miniatures, rules, scenery and painting information in one box and makes the perfect starter set to begin playing Warhammer Age of Sigmar. The box contains 44 Easy to Build miniatures from the Warhammer Age of Sigmar boxed game (80-01) supplied in red and gold plastic, a reversible tray used as scenery and carton play mat. It also includes a painting guide, the core rules, 4 battle plans, 8 war scrolls, as well as dice a range rule paper gaming mat and a scenery piece allowing you to get started straight away.

Also, Korghos Khul and Bloodsecrator in one box and Vandus Hammerhand in another, £25 a piece.

Ouch that looks like a bit of a price bump given it's currently £75 for those same 44 models + the three being sold separately (Well the two Bloodbourne models are together). If they're pricing the Thunder and Blood box at ~£50 then you are probably looking at £100 for the same models.

I'm interested to see what terrain piece their talking about there. If it's one of the existing AoS terrain pieces it may actually be a pretty good deal.

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm interested to see what terrain piece their talking about there. If it's one of the existing AoS terrain pieces it may actually be a pretty good deal.

They're referring to the "reversible tray that can be used as scenery".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm interested to see what terrain piece their talking about there. If it's one of the existing AoS terrain pieces it may actually be a pretty good deal.

They're referring to the "reversible tray that can be used as scenery".

Yeah, you're probably right, but it sure is written strangely. It says "a reversible tray that can be used as scenery. It also includes...a scenery piece." Not sure why they would list off those things that way, but after reading it again I'm thinking I agree with you and they just listed the tray and the gaming mat twice.

 godswildcard wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm interested to see what terrain piece their talking about there. If it's one of the existing AoS terrain pieces it may actually be a pretty good deal.

They're referring to the "reversible tray that can be used as scenery".

Yeah, you're probably right, but it sure is written strangely. It says "a reversible tray that can be used as scenery. It also includes...a scenery piece." Not sure why they would list off those things that way, but after reading it again I'm thinking I agree with you and they just listed the tray and the gaming mat twice.

The scenery is a cardboard box.

GW showed it some months ago.

Excited they're getting their own models! I wonder if I can use my LCoD as Vandus since I slapped a Shield on him though...

I was just looking for a kit to be the basis for converting some priests and other characters for both AoS and 40k and saw the Freeguild Archers and was like "these will be perfect" and then "temporarily not available." The flagellants are an option but they're just a bit too under dressed for my liking. To much like the catachans and chaos marauders.

I really do hope they come back at the same price but with 25mm round bases in new packaging.

AoS: Thunder & Blood
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2154

I would adore this starter set as a young newcomer.

Vandus Hammerhand



Korgos Khul & Bloodsecrator



Thunder & Blood: A Warhammer Age Of Sigmar Starter Set

Well I find the special character scrolls to be less than I hoped for but about what I expected. They do a solid job of being the generic-version-but-better rule wise but don't feel particularly representative of the characters in question. Also, I chuckled that GW put the old Bloodsecrator scroll up instead of the updated one. That'll cause confusion.

That intro box is actually pretty cool. Smaller version of the original, but still.

It's a truly amazing starter set in my opinion. Everything in mind with the young hobbyist with a double sided mat and building to really set their imagination on fire.

I myself am tempted to get this, just to feel like I am 10 again! Haha

Is there a point to this new starterbox? Is the old one going away?

It's smaller and therefore cheaper so easier to pull in new players will

(with the bonus that they'll start buying more expensive stuff sooner)

no idea whether the old starter is going away though

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's smaller and therefore cheaper so easier to pull in new players will

(with the bonus that they'll start buying more expensive stuff sooner)

no idea whether the old starter is going away though

Best way to get into the hobby is the Island of Blood set. Or call it Spire of Dawn.... For some misterious reason its a bestseller still.

herjan1987 wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's smaller and therefore cheaper so easier to pull in new players will

(with the bonus that they'll start buying more expensive stuff sooner)

no idea whether the old starter is going away though

Best way to get into the hobby is the Island of Blood set. Or call it Spire of Dawn.... For some misterious reason its a bestseller still.

Because it's basically the only way to get all of the Elf models included within and a great value on the Skaven stuff.

Is the play mat 6x4?