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2017/05/19 18:17:06
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
warboss wrote: I genuinely hope I'm wrong but I'm worried that this new ruleset and all the rules interactions will turn every "big" thing into the 7th edition equivalent of fighting a wraithknight. It's hard to tell without seeing the full rules in play but my gut says that combat will be a frustrating slog of chipping away slowly at wounds barring a lucky very random d6 roll for damage. I suspect that will be the big complaint in a year or two.
It feels like armies won't be able to just bring light-arms or Str 6 shooting. Heavy weaponry will be a must in 8th ed. I suspect, though, that close combat will be particularly deadly and be an effective way to take down heavies - d3 and d6 wounds per attack could be deadly. A simple powerfist does d3 wounds.
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mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Calling Mortarian. He had an old model in Epic. Also fits with the imminent Death Guard release and their potential to be included in the starter.
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mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Possibly. I mean there are some things from the End Times that could easilly slip over to being normal 40k stuff with little to no change.
Some of them make good Cultist models for CSM too.
2017/05/19 18:20:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote:Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Did 40k ever get rules for all the Bloodthirster variants?
Yes, all three.
Four.
2017/05/19 18:22:29
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Chaos is a given, so my money is on some of the Tzeentch Arcanite stuff - Gaunt Summoner and/or Ogroid Thaumaturge would both work fine alongside Tzeentch Daemons and Thousand Sons.
2017/05/19 18:25:05
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Glotkin? My bet is on something demonic from the ET.
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Chaos is a given, so my money is on some of the Tzeentch Arcanite stuff - Gaunt Summoner and/or Ogroid Thaumaturge would both work fine alongside Tzeentch Daemons and Thousand Sons.
These are also good bets.
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mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where do you see?
i dont see it on facebook
2017/05/19 18:26:59
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Chaos is a given, so my money is on some of the Tzeentch Arcanite stuff - Gaunt Summoner and/or Ogroid Thaumaturge would both work fine alongside Tzeentch Daemons and Thousand Sons.
Actually that's probably it. The Tzaangors are in both games, so it was honestly weird the elite Tzaangors didn't get 40k rules.
2017/05/19 18:27:14
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where is this posted at?
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2017/05/19 18:27:34
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Calling Mortarian. He had an old model in Epic. Also fits with the imminent Death Guard release and their potential to be included in the starter.
Doubtful. For one, they said "is NOT a new model" and two, an Epic Model is both OOP AND out of scale with the entire rest of the game.
2017/05/19 18:28:18
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where is this posted at?
zamerion wrote:
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where do you see?
i dont see it on facebook
Not posted, confirmed in Twitch stream.
Ghorros wrote: The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote: All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
2017/05/19 18:31:04
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
Slaughterbrute would look kinda odd with all those medieval swords, but the Mutalith would be the most obvious choice if they're really gonna import a Fantasy monster.
2017/05/19 18:38:44
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something: Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where is this posted at?
Spoiler:
zamerion wrote:
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something: Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where do you see? i dont see it on facebook
Not posted, confirmed in Twitch stream.
So during the Dark Eldar versus Grey Knights match? Or the earlier Blood Angels versus Tyranid match?
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2017/05/19 18:42:17
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Chaos is a given, so my money is on some of the Tzeentch Arcanite stuff - Gaunt Summoner and/or Ogroid Thaumaturge would both work fine alongside Tzeentch Daemons and Thousand Sons.
Actually that's probably it. The Tzaangors are in both games, so it was honestly weird the elite Tzaangors didn't get 40k rules.
Slaughterbrute would look kinda odd with all those medieval swords, but the Mutalith would be the most obvious choice if they're really gonna import a Fantasy monster.
It wouldn't look that odd, since the swords stuck into it are ritual blades for controlling the beast...
Is worth mentioning that the Slaughterbrute/Mutalith is currently "Temporarily Out of Stock", so it might be getting reboxed.
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2017/05/19 18:47:42
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Chaos is a given, so my money is on some of the Tzeentch Arcanite stuff - Gaunt Summoner and/or Ogroid Thaumaturge would both work fine alongside Tzeentch Daemons and Thousand Sons.
Actually that's probably it. The Tzaangors are in both games, so it was honestly weird the elite Tzaangors didn't get 40k rules.
Chaos Warhounds.
And I don't mean the Titan.
They were in the 3.5 codex, so fail at the "not able to play in 40K before" part of the sentence.
Given the GW picture floating around at the beginning of the year showing Tzaangor and Thousand Sons and the caption "One army, Two Games", I'm leaning the various disc riding Tzaangor.
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2017/05/19 18:53:38
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
I'm starting to think mixing shooting and charging a unit might be the best option for the new edition to force extra casualties in the Battle Shock phase.
Mostly because it doesn't look like shooting or melee alone can delete units as effectively as it used to.
2017/05/19 18:54:38
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where is this posted at?
Spoiler:
zamerion wrote:
mrhappyface wrote: Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?
Where do you see?
i dont see it on facebook
Not posted, confirmed in Twitch stream.
So during the Dark Eldar versus Grey Knights match? Or the earlier Blood Angels versus Tyranid match?
DE vs GK.
They also said something about some new Ork stuff, I only caught the end but it seemed like they were talking about something big (I believe some people were talking about Primarch level Orks?) although I'm not entirely sure.
Ghorros wrote: The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote: All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
2017/05/19 18:55:11
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
changemod wrote: Faction Xenos keyword would mean you could make a single detachment out of a T'aunar, a Revenant Titan and a Hierophant.
Wraithknight, Stormsurge and a Gorkanaught.
No idea why you toned it down.
Actually you can take up to 5 so add a Stompa and a Pylon to my original post.
...
...God I hope pylons can shoot ground targets again, I converted mine in the weeks leading up to 7th and never got to play it before the Skyfire nerf made it useless.
2017/05/19 18:58:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
changemod wrote: Faction Xenos keyword would mean you could make a single detachment out of a T'aunar, a Revenant Titan and a Hierophant.
Wraithknight, Stormsurge and a Gorkanaught.
No idea why you toned it down.
Actually you can take up to 5 so add a Stompa and a Pylon to my original post.
...
...God I hope pylons can shoot ground targets again, I converted mine in the weeks leading up to 7th and never got to play it before the Skyfire nerf made it useless.
I was ramping up the fluff violations.
..well trying too.
Plus all of mine are plastic.
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2017/05/19 19:00:00
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
rollawaythestone wrote: It feels like armies won't be able to just bring light-arms or Str 6 shooting. Heavy weaponry will be a must in 8th ed. I suspect, though, that close combat will be particularly deadly and be an effective way to take down heavies - d3 and d6 wounds per attack could be deadly. A simple powerfist does d3 wounds.
"could" be deadly is the key for me and I'm talking about the dedicated anti-armor weapons and not the chip-chip-chip-away hull point str 6 spam of this generation. It feels too swingy. Your lascannon only is a real anti-armor weapon on a damage roll of a 6 versus alot of tough vehicles... otherwise it's not too much better than the autocannon. I don't mind close combat with some weapons being a viable option but I'm worried it'll be the only viable option given some of the calculations in this thread. Having a Str 8 -3 save powerfist that gets d3 on every attack sure does knock the pants off of a lascannon in terms of chances to kill. It's the idea of an entire squad of lascannons in a dev squad or heavy weapons team not being able to reliably kill a single medium armor vehicle that worries me let alone the real heavies and superheavies. YMMV.
2017/05/19 19:18:37
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 18 May 2017: Vehicles/Live QA 2 summary(All info in OP)
*Increases Game Point Limit by 100*: Tau get two Crisis Suits and a Firewarrior. Imperial Guard get two infantry companies, artillery support, and APCs.
