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Also, if anyone finds information on Tzeentch screamers... I'll kiss you right in the mouth for it. I just got done building 30 and have been worried about them.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I'd bet the necron ap is based on rolling 6s to hit or wound.

You would hope so if they are sthe same pts cost!!!

Inquisitors being able to start (?) in any Imperium vehicle is great.

Dammit...where are those AdMech leaks?!

Iago40k wrote:
Dammit...where are those AdMech leaks?!

Adeptus Mechanicus:
Forge Worlds keywords, Cawl has Mars keyword and buffs Mars FW units.
Adeptus Mechanicus keyword is shared, Cult Mechanicus kw and Skitarii kw are present to differentiate. Bonuses target AM keyword
Canticles are chosen at the start of each Battle Round and last that much, cannot be chosen twice. Among the effects they allow for rerolling 1s to same FW kw units within 6".

Aenar wrote:

Iago40k wrote:
Dammit...where are those AdMech leaks?!

Adeptus Mechanicus:
Forge Worlds keywords, Cawl has Mars keyword and buffs Mars FW units.
Adeptus Mechanicus keyword is shared, Cult Mechanicus kw and Skitarii kw are present to differentiate. Bonuses target AM keyword
Canticles are chosen at the start of each Battle Round and last that much, cannot be chosen twice. Among the effects they allow for rerolling 1s to same FW kw units within 6".

Forgeworlds as Keywords - cool - I like this

Anything on Sisters please

Aenar wrote:

Iago40k wrote:
Dammit...where are those AdMech leaks?!

Adeptus Mechanicus:
Forge Worlds keywords, Cawl has Mars keyword and buffs Mars FW units.
Adeptus Mechanicus keyword is shared, Cult Mechanicus kw and Skitarii kw are present to differentiate. Bonuses target AM keyword
Canticles are chosen at the start of each Battle Round and last that much, cannot be chosen twice. Among the effects they allow for rerolling 1s to same FW kw units within 6".

So we officially got one faction now. Praise the Omnissiah! and thank you

Very keen to see more about the orks. Seems like the battlewagon is less survivable than before, from the front at least, but the deffrolla is even better than the 4th edition one!

Any news in what storm shields and dispertion shields do?

 Mr Morden wrote:


Anything on Sisters please

Only thing that I read is that they are amongst the Imperial Agents, the Saint gives them some buffs and they have shared rules with the adeptus ministrorum (Act of Faith, Shield of Faith and Zealot)

IG/Astra Militarum has regiment keyword and Orders are given automatically to same regiment kw unit within 6".

EDIT: it looks like flyers give a "small" (no idea how much) malus to hit, not snapshooting anymore.

EDIT 2: more leaks to follow, stay tuned!

Aenar wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Anything on Sisters please

Only thing that I read is that they are amongst the Imperial Agents, the Saint gives them some buffs and they have shared rules with the adeptus ministrorum (Act of Faith, Shield of Faith and Zealot)

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Thanks - sounds good - welle xcept the stuck in Agents bit - hopefully they will have Keyword "Order"

cant find the forum using the 'google search' that was suggested, is there a reason someone can't just link us?

Aenar wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Anything on Sisters please

Only thing that I read is that they are amongst the Imperial Agents, the Saint gives them some buffs and they have shared rules with the adeptus ministrorum (Act of Faith, Shield of Faith and Zealot)

IG/Astra Militarum has regiment keyword and Orders are given automatically to same regiment kw unit within 6".

EDIT: it looks like flyers give a "small" (no idea how much) malus to hit, not snapshooting anymore.

EDIT 2: more leaks to follow, stay tuned!

Thank you for keeping us updated!

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Really disappointed with the Abaddon rules there, after 10000 years and many black crusades he still can't control his own sword. Every time he fights he has a 1 in 6 chance of wounding himself, how is he still alive.

Damage the dude takes is halved (rounding up likely)!

Abby will be hard to take down.

 davou wrote:
cant find the forum using the 'google search' that was suggested, is there a reason someone can't just link us?

Think I found the forum (forumgwtilea < google it) but I can't get into the various sections as it's waiting to validate the account. Which is a little annoying.

The Heldrake doesn't seem to have any rules which distinguish it from a ground vehicle apart from FLY. Which is the same rule that jump infantry seem to get. Does this mean that jump infantry are going to be largely immune to close combat or that anyone can punch planes now?

Also curious if they still have any penalty to hit them, for much the same reason. Would make jump packs very desirable and possibly make up for jet packs and eldar jetbikes losing their JSJ abilities?

Aenar wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Anything on Sisters please

Only thing that I read is that they are amongst the Imperial Agents, the Saint gives them some buffs and they have shared rules with the adeptus ministrorum (Act of Faith, Shield of Faith and Zealot)

IG/Astra Militarum has regiment keyword and Orders are given automatically to same regiment kw unit within 6".

EDIT: it looks like flyers give a "small" (no idea how much) malus to hit, not snapshooting anymore.

EDIT 2: more leaks to follow, stay tuned!

Hi, the English word for "bonus but bad instead of good" is penalty.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Rubricae are only 18 points? :O

18 points without gear.

Aenar wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Anything on Sisters please

Only thing that I read is that they are amongst the Imperial Agents, the Saint gives them some buffs and they have shared rules with the adeptus ministrorum (Act of Faith, Shield of Faith and Zealot)

IG/Astra Militarum has regiment keyword and Orders are given automatically to same regiment kw unit within 6".

EDIT: it looks like flyers give a "small" (no idea how much) malus to hit, not snapshooting anymore.

EDIT 2: more leaks to follow, stay tuned!

Lets do some more IG/AM when you're at it

[MOD EDIT - RULE #2 - STAY ON TOPIC - Alpharius]

 BroodSpawn wrote:

 davou wrote:
cant find the forum using the 'google search' that was suggested, is there a reason someone can't just link us?

Think I found the forum (forumgwtilea < google it) but I can't get into the various sections as it's waiting to validate the account. Which is a little annoying.

It is it, but it sadly requires an account to read the discussions. I hope yours get activated soon.

Anyway, it looks like that the guy who is leaking some info (no points yet, apart the Monolith who should be a bit more than 380 points) is going to answer soon some of the tens of questions asked.

Could someone confirm if Legion and chapter Tactics are still around? And if so, what does the Death Guard one give your units?

Aenar wrote:
the Monolith who should be a bit more than 380 points

I was almost worried it might be good for a second there.

(In all seriousness it may still be good, but that makes it sound very prohibitive to field multiples, and the Obelisk must be really pricey if that's the case. I own two and an obelisk so it being over 1000 just to field the three would be a little disappointing even if the rules fully justify the price)

Aenar wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Anything on Sisters please

Only thing that I read is that they are amongst the Imperial Agents, the Saint gives them some buffs and they have shared rules with the adeptus ministrorum (Act of Faith, Shield of Faith and Zealot)

IG/Astra Militarum has regiment keyword and Orders are given automatically to same regiment kw unit within 6".

EDIT: it looks like flyers give a "small" (no idea how much) malus to hit, not snapshooting anymore.

EDIT 2: more leaks to follow, stay tuned!

Meh ! The automatic pass of orders is not that great if one compares it to the good probabilities with 7th ed' vox-caster upgraded squads.
Especially if you factor in the range reduction from 12" to 6". That's a real inconvenience in term of playability.

changemod wrote:

Hi, the English word for "bonus but bad instead of good" is penalty.

In italian and french we have both words penalità / pénalité and malus with similar but slightly different meanings.

 Enginseer Kalashnikov wrote:
Could someone confirm if Legion and chapter Tactics are still around? And if so, what does the Death Guard one give your units?

I wouldn't count on such detailed info yet.

I would just like to know how space marine characters are now handled when the primaris are involved. Is there specific primaris versions of characters and can they be equipped freely? (And what do the lieutenants do?)

This is what doesn't worry me so much now. A monolith should be more expensive than a Land Raider due to it's sheer survivablity (at least in the lore). Likewise Knights (of the Imperial, Heretic and Eldar varieties) being significantly more expensive to factor in them being difficult units to deal with whilst also putting down a serious amount of damage is, in all honesty, a good move.

I guess Oblits aren't getting a plastic kit any time soon. Wow did they do a number on them. This really is "Roll Lots of Dice" edition. Yikes...

But the real tragedy here is that they made the Land Raider T8. Toughness 8. In a game where they've said characteristics aren't limited to 10, what they really meant was Wounds, right?

Toughness 8. Best tank in the universe (fluff-wise), and the whole reason I started playing 40K, the original model of which is one of my most cherished models... and it's T8.

The Dread should be T8. The Land Raider should be T10. God-damn it GW...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I guess Oblits aren't getting a plastic kit any time soon. Wow did they do a number on them. This really is "Roll Lots of Dice" edition. Yikes...

But the real tragedy here is that they made the Land Raider T8. Toughness 8. In a game where they've said characteristics aren't limited to 10, what they really meant was Wounds, right?

Toughness 8. Best tank in the universe (fluff-wise), and the whole reason I started playing 40K, the original model of which is one of my most cherished models... and it's T8.

The Dread should be T8. The Land Raider should be T10. God-damn it GW...

I think the benchmark is they want Melta and Lascannons to always be relevant, and use extra wounds to mark extra durability past that point.

Extra toughness is probably going to be reserved for true titans. T9 for Warhounds and T'aunar. T10 for Reavers. That kinda thing.

Wow, Grav being Str 5, AP -3 sucks pretty bad, even if it does d3 wounds against 3+ or better saves. It is barely going to wound anything.

 buddha wrote:

 Enginseer Kalashnikov wrote:
Could someone confirm if Legion and chapter Tactics are still around? And if so, what does the Death Guard one give your units?

I wouldn't count on such detailed info yet.

What's incredibly annoying is that the Contagion discipline picture TEASES us. You can see snippets of Death Guard trait info to the left.



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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Wow, Grav being Str 5, AP -3 sucks pretty bad, even if it does d3 wounds against 3+ or better saves. It is barely going to wound anything.

Good. Grav needed to be nerfed. It literally became the go-to for everything over the past two editions and it was bloody ridiculous.