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I kinda love how we can all manage to just sit around arguing for weeks about things that none of us know exactly for sure yet...an endless battle of varying and conflicting "educated guesses"

I think it is nice that you have a whole easy build army and since your doing that you may as well make the aesthetic appeal to the target demographic.

I just hope that it is a one off and not a sign of things to come as I like seeing varied armies even when of the same race. Otherwise your paying a lot of money for heroclix you have to build and paint yourself and you end up with armies like that fantasy flight wargame.

honestly, even with all the models being largely monopose with a little variation, I feel like there's still going to be a lot of variation between people's armies, even just by different paintjobs, but there'll also be plenty of conversions around, heck there already is, and the full range isn't out yet!

US and CAN prices for Typhus - via War of Sigmar

The blightlords look quite good and if the arms are seperate they can be at least magnetized to be used with older Termis and 3rd party Terminators.

For the Marines I'd expect to see changeable belly plates, arms and heads from the images, but I guess the torso will be connected to the legs as well.

Is it possible that the release just appears monopose. It could be they only built/assembled a small amount of models and just showcase those ones

SeanDrake wrote:
I think it is nice that you have a whole easy build army and since your doing that you may as well make the aesthetic appeal to the target demographic.

I just hope that it is a one off and not a sign of things to come as I like seeing varied armies even when of the same race. Otherwise your paying a lot of money for heroclix you have to build and paint yourself and you end up with armies like that fantasy flight wargame.

If monopose becomes the norm, then fans should start demanding reduced prices for reduced product quality. AoS is mostly monopose and it is far too over priced, I won't touch the game because of monopose and prices.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
I think it is nice that you have a whole easy build army and since your doing that you may as well make the aesthetic appeal to the target demographic.

I just hope that it is a one off and not a sign of things to come as I like seeing varied armies even when of the same race. Otherwise your paying a lot of money for heroclix you have to build and paint yourself and you end up with armies like that fantasy flight wargame.

If monopose becomes the norm, then fans should start demanding reduced prices for reduced product quality. AoS is mostly monopose and it is far too over priced, I won't touch the game because of monopose and prices.

The price for models is not based on their pose - it is based on production costs. CAD-rendered complex sprues with intricate undercuts and fiddly bits for injection molds is not a cheap endeavor.

Not that I am happy with this monopose crap myself, but that is because I can't stand stuff in my army all looking the same and am awful at conversions.

I guess my question is does it matter much? Perhaps more so with basic marines or the new primaris stuff, but with the nurgle stuff?

Theres, what 13 different plague marines now. Average game you might only have a few of the same model in your army more then once. And when you are playing, no one is going, "holy crap, you have 2 of the same looking guy! Gross!"

The terminators look like from the pictures you can make 10 different looking guys. And again, you really are not using more then 10 in a average game.

I guess I could see a small case for primaris all looking the same having even less poses, but it is a game about war, not looking crazy dynamic. Like always you can convert. If you suck at it, watch some vids about converting, its really very easy.

Price is based on the level of detail on the molds, so demanding lower prices for poses is never going to happen, ever.

Personally I guess I don't care. If a pose of a character is crap - like Typhus - I convert my own from LoC. Marines are marines, so they are chaff on the table, not centerpieces.

Remember when there were loads of metal models that were monopose and this was fine? Because there would be like three different options or more for each choice that might reasonably get taken more than once. e.g. commisar, that would allow for variety. Plastic monopose is fine as long as there's enough variety to take a sensible number without feeling repetitive. If you want to take 18 deathshroud in an army, then you're enough out of what's expected for it to be sensible that you need to convert if you want variety. Not that its not a pity that we don't get more variety, but we are getting more intricate detail that is spread betwen torso and limbs etc.

 mrhappyface wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

NurglesR0T wrote:
I'd expect most releases going forward being mostly monopose. The Primaris characters for example are in the same boat.

Aye, I hope they cut out this cluttered mono-pose stuff before the WE codex comes out (I swear, if they mess up Angron's model...).

I understand maybe not liking a lot of the models, but so far the Primarchs we have (Magnus, Roboute, and Mortarion) are pretty gorgeous and about what I imagined them to be. Even if I don't like Nipple Horns haha!

I'd expect them to do a correct looking Angron when they get to it.

Magnus is a real beauty, Morty is pretty good (he's growing on me) but Girlyman is an awful sculpt. They've been very hit and miss with the Primarchs models so far: some features they got absolutely right but others...

Just gotta cross my fingers and hope Angron is a hit.

I wasn't initially sold on Roboute until:
1. I saw those flame things weren't attached to his feet hahaha!
2. He had a helmeted option.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I wasn't initially sold on Roboute until:
1. I saw those flame things weren't attached to his feet hahaha!
2. He had a helmeted option.

Were you not put off by his frankly stupid stance? His armour was also a problem point if I remember, not really fitting in with the rest of the UM army and looking more like TS armour.

Every sixth Battle Sister in my army appears to have been caught doing the exact same dance move, so I think a bit of monopose isn't that much of an imposition.

I'm starting to think that if GW wants to make Death Guard players happy they should not give them any releases or rules at all. Never seen such a salt-ridden release.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm starting to think that if GW wants to make Death Guard players happy they should not give them any releases or rules at all. Never seen such a salt-ridden release.

You clearly don't follow the AdMech thread.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm starting to think that if GW wants to make Death Guard players happy they should not give them any releases or rules at all. Never seen such a salt-ridden release.

You clearly don't follow the AdMech thread.

I don't... And now I'm thinking that's probably wise.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm starting to think that if GW wants to make Death Guard players happy they should not give them any releases or rules at all. Never seen such a salt-ridden release.

The saltier the poster, the more money they'll give to GW, thats for sure

Clearly GW would have been better off targeting World Eaters players with a codex.

We just need chainaxes and meat.

I quite like this codex, the fluff and unit descriptions, while a tad over the top, are fun to read and paints a neat picture of a Traitor Legion still going strong ten millennia down the road.

Hands down the best codex and model releases of 8th edition. I think the VAST majority of people are enjoying this release. There will always be salty people regardless of what is done.

 Galas wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm starting to think that if GW wants to make Death Guard players happy they should not give them any releases or rules at all. Never seen such a salt-ridden release.

The saltier the poster, the more money they'll give to GW, thats for sure

Wait so we can call people whining crybabies if we like without breaking the forum rules providing we use juvenile euphemisms now? Cool

Thats a little exageration, theres ways and ways of calling someone something, respectfull ways and disrespectull ones. That one was more "funny" than disrespectfull.

I remain in my position that at this point in my life I know that the people that does more noise agains't GW's releases are, normally, the ones that end buying all those same things they where critizing.

Please, back on topic

$40 dollars for Typhus huh? Considering SM characters were $35, not terrible. I hope this means that the Elite choices will be no more than the $25 ballpark.

To the point of mono-pose figures, sure it leaves a lot to be desired, but nothing that can't be fixed with some basic converting. At the very least I can see clipping off come of the horns/spikes/tabbards and replacing them with other Nurgle bits, which we have a plethora of thanks to Warhammer fantasy, AoS and Nurgle Demons in addition to the new releases. Not to mention that basically any chaos kit, or beastmen kit with horns/bones and tentacles fits. And of course the off the cuff improvised mechanical exhausts of ork vehicles which fit the DG to a T. I am looking at this army as an incredible opportunity to flex my modelling chops and create some truly unique models from the basic kits. Other than Orks, I can't think of any other Warhammer force that can get this level of customization!

So get your clippers, bits box and a tub of green stuff ready lads.

 Galas wrote:
Thats a little exageration, theres ways and ways of calling someone something, respectfull ways and disrespectull ones. That one was more "funny" than disrespectfull.

I remain in my position that at this point in my life I know that the people that does more noise agains't GW's releases are, normally, the ones that end buying all those same things they where critizing.

In Italian we say "chi disprezza, compra" (quien desprecia, comprar quiere. The one who despises, buys).
I did not buy AoS or other product that I despise, but I changed in part my heart with the Death Guard because I perceived the conversion and painting potential. I still stand against the models as they are.
Is true that Typhus can be fixed relatively easily IMHO. But is true that the pose is the least fortunate among the old one and the FW one.
Possibly, they did not want to repeat the Lord of Contagion, that looks like a (cool if trimmed) Typhus 1.0.
Time will tell.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm starting to think that if GW wants to make Death Guard players happy they should not give them any releases or rules at all. Never seen such a salt-ridden release.

Not even a DG player, just think the models aren't very good. The rules are ok though.

Do we have any other corroborating evidence that the Blightspawn is being put up for pre-order on 9/23 other than a rumor?

Only reason I ask is that I'm surprised GW hasn't said anything about it considering its a brand new model.

Not just the guy who spoke to his rep. Still from Faeit but it's something

Restricted? What does that mean?

And US$40 Typhus is the same as Ahriman, just like the (mono-pose) Deathshrouds are the same cost as the (not-mono-pose) Exalted Sorcerers.

Restricted means a limit per customer IRC