Necromunda Underhive - House of Chains Pg272

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**angel of death 007**

FW is rediculous to ship to the US plus the ever changing rate of the pound doesn't help. Anyway you look at it it is always higher then the USD and then you pay a fee to whatever card you use... fees on fees on fees with no discount available to help with the extreme prices that is GW/FW

**SeanDrake**

TigerMafia wrote:
Baxx wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:

Being able to go into the shop and place an order via the in-store terminals would mean that it's a hell of a lot easier to acquire for a hell of a lot more people. It also opens it up for people ordering it via the webstore and paying with cash instead of only debit/credit/PayPal.

Would people want to pay more to be able to order iva physical store? And if so, why?

If the 15% surcharge was removed, then yes they might be able to charge a little bit more. The only advantage I would see to being able to order and/or pick up in-store would be the removal of the shipping charges, which I think are a bit exorbitant right now.

Now, FW and GW are separate entities. I have no insight into how they manage the respective supply chains, but I assume they are also basically separate. Not sure how they would integrate it with GW, but it wouldn't be too difficult to just use GW as a sort of parcel pick-up point for weekly shipments?

Never going to see FW available in store again they used to sell imperial armour but had to withdraw them or supply 3rd party stores with it due to uk/EU law.

Short version if you are the manufacture, distributor and retailer with own stores then anything you sell in store has to be offered by your distribution arm to 3rd parties or you fall foul of I believe it is our monopoly laws.
It is pretty obscure because there are very few companies that have all there own production, distribution and there own store chain.

The only way around it would be to actually make the different arms citadel,GW and FW separate not just in name but that has some disadvantages.

**Mymearan**

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that the reason you can’t order FW in-store is because they couldn’t cope with the demand that would follow. Resin production on that scale would be a pretty huge leap from their current capacity.

**Gimgamgoo**

I can get my ebay goods sent to Argos.
My DPD packages can be picked up from Halfords or PC World.

Yet GW can't sort something out to have their own subsidiary company send goods for their own game to their own stores?

**Sabotage!**

Holy cow, at least the sculptors at FW have not been idle with Necromunda. This stuff all looks amazing, and if priced like the bounty hunter/ scum pack, I would happily buy all of it. Here's hoping they can actually get this stuff into production at a reasonable pace, so that we can actually get our hands on it.

Also......Mad Dog (and his dog) and that Sumpkroc

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Gimgamgoo wrote:
I can get my ebay goods sent to Argos.
My DPD packages can be picked up from Halfords or PC World.

Yet GW can't sort something out to have their own subsidiary company send goods for their own game to their own stores?

That’s assuming FW could fulfil the uptick in orders. No point having new outlets if your production can’t keep up.

**TigerMafia**

SeanDrake wrote:

Never going to see FW available in store again they used to sell imperial armour but had to withdraw them or supply 3rd party stores with it due to uk/EU law.

Short version if you are the manufacture, distributor and retailer with own stores then anything you sell in store has to be offered by your distribution arm to 3rd parties or you fall foul of I believe it is our monopoly laws.
It is pretty obscure because there are very few companies that have all there own production, distribution and there own store chain.

The only way around it would be to actually make the different arms citadel,GW and FW separate not just in name but that has some disadvantages.

Thanks for the insight.

**GoatboyBeta**

Looks like another expensive weekhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/04/next-weeks-pre-orders-bold-warriors-dark-cities/

**Chopstick**

One thing that I just remembered is that all these new weapons option but they still didn't make the plain weapon bit, with no arm attached, So they can be glue on the model, or be used in conversion..... Like that should be the easiest to make and the first thing that come to their mind. Most model won't be able to carry 3 weapon without these bits unless one of the weapon is a knife.

**Chairman Aeon**

I mean if GW just ran white metal spincasting again we could get all these pretties in store...

**ah64pilot5**

I'm happy that the word out is that the heavy stubber is gonna be fixed.
Any rumors or updates on them fixing the bolt gun/bolt pistol discrepancy?
How about any update/changes between the current sword profile and the FW profile on the bounty hunter chainsword that are the same?

**streetsamurai**

I like everything bar the Goliath expansion pack. Which is unfortunate cause they are my main gang.. Hope they look less deformed in real life

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The Orlock Big boss is a real stunner.

While I like a squat making a comeback, it also remind me why one is more than enough. Still the same boring dorf in space concept

**Thargrim**

Everything looks good except for a couple of those goliath weapon arms. Some weird posing in there, especially with the chain sword looking thing, arm just held out to the side all wonky. This might be cause they glued some of the arms on bodies that don't match the pose of the arm too well. I think changing a few of them around would help a lot.

Hopefully none of this stuff is limited like those blood bowl referees. Especially the caryatid and sumpkroc those two are quite nifty. I am tempted to start Orlocks and I very well might. But my backlog is embarrassingly immense and getting worse all the time.

**Samsonov**

I am not a fan of the plastic Escher or Goliath, whilst I think the Orlock are alright, but all the forgeworld Necromunda stuff is the most interesting GW/forgeworld stuff in many years. As people have commented, a fascinating exploration of the non-military side of the 40K universe and Blanchisms done right.

**H.B.M.C.**

ah64pilot5 wrote:
I'm happy that the word out is that the heavy stubber is gonna be fixed.

Nothing broken about the Heavy Stubber. Those stats were intentional.

**Baxx**

Galas wrote:
Oh man I can't wait for the Necromunda Compendium ala BloodBowl to play with all of this stuff :0

6 gangs (with juves and weapon sprues), chaos and genestealer cults, enough bounty hunters, scum and special characters... and the compendium. With all the errors, uncertainties and inconsistencies solved! Maybe 12 months from now? Could be near perfect!

**Racerguy180**

Grendl is soooo badass & the beasts kick it. I can't wait for Delaque now. they need to come out with more terrain for 3d stuff. Maybe do 50% GW 50%FW.

**warl0rdb0b**

The only thing I'm not sure about with all these figures are the Escher Phyrr cats. Something tells me they were done by Trish, the proportions seem a little off on the feet and teeth. otherwise i will be buying each of the figures and a few weapon packs, this is truly an amazing release cycle.

**Warhams-77**

There is a huge info drop by Garro on FB. I cannot c/p atm and dont know how valid it is but he says plastic Enforcers and later plastic Outlander gangs were confirmed.

**kendoka**

I honestly cannot understand why some people like the Mad Dog dude (Orlock dog handler).
In my book it is inferior to almost all other sculpts in this, amazing, release.
I need several cyber-dogs, though...

The worst sculpts are obviously the pyrr ”cats”, them being extremely bad and in poses like a Scylla from the nineties...

Spoiler:

**Warhams-77**

Via Halbling on Yaktribe

News vom Garro from FB:

"
Going to type this up as bullet points, as I’m going to be writing this down from memory, so things might jump randomly between subjects

WHICH GANG IS NEXT AND WHEN?

• Which gang is coming next wasn’t stated, as the main ‘in store plastics’ are considered a citadel release, and as such once the models are finished, release order and scheduling is out of their hand, plus main GW is a lot more controlled on how far in advance they show upcoming releases than FW and the specialist games studio, but considering its supposed to be a new gang every quarter, the next gang will be out by or at warhammerfest UK in May.

NEW MODELS
• Kria the huntress coming as a named ESCHER character, based off the artwork on page 93 of the BRB.

• Bella Donna is also being done, as seen in the cabinets

• Each house will be getting a ‘mega’ leader, basically a gang leader who’s so powerful that their gang is so big that it operates as several or has control over subordinate gangs. Imagine that your gang leader is like a store manager, these guys are regional managers.

• Lots of bounty hunters coming. 7 named ones in gang war 2. All will have models

• PETS, gang leaders will be able to buy house specific pets which is where the animal minis have come from. They will all have special abilities and rules

• The creepy little baby with wings is a Caryatid, which dates back to Necromunda’s days as ‘conformation’. Basically, these are weird little creatures that no one knows where they come from and they appear randomly and start following gangers around like pets. Gangers who end up with one are said to be on the cusp of greatness and often go on to achieve wonders, but when a Caryatid leaves, it’s a really bad omen.

• Necromunda gangs will be getting a new class of gang member to buy soon, in the form of ‘brutes’ these are like how blood bowl teams can get ogres, trolls, and the like, in that they’ll be the ‘big guys’ several generic ones are planned like the slave Orygns and mining automata, but they are planning house specific ones as time goes on
Future settings

• The seminar had a list of places that the SGD would like to explore in future, many of these will take part as new campaign books, with rules, characters, and in some cases new gangs. But this won’t be for a while

FUTURE GANGS

• We’ve got the three white dwarf gangs coming (genestealer cults, chaos cults, and bounty hunters for those not in the know) these are starting from march’s issue

• We’ve got two new gangs confirmed and two collections confirmed.

• We’ve got the Palatine Enforcers who will be in plastic and are the hives law and order (Arbites are NOT in necromunda, and are completely different to enforcers).

• We’ve got ‘chaos uprising’ which will take the generic ‘get you by’ rules from the WD gang and turn them into a fully-fledged and detailed gang set, focused around a cult uprising in hive primus

• We’ve got confirmation that ALL the outlander gangs will be coming (after the 6 houses are finished, so starting next year) no existing gang will be dropped that had models

• The guilds will be joining eventually as well. The merchant guilds aren’t a single faction as such. They’re built from lots of specialised ‘companies’ that sell and control certain things, like the water guild, that controls the supply of water on necromunda, piss them off, you go thirsty. The Promethium guild, which controls all the fuel, and the corpse guild, which collects the dead bodies and create the corpse starch, that feeds the lower classes. These guilds are very powerful, but not in the same way that the houses are (they have lots of money, influence, and strategic power, while little to no fighting power). The design studio is still concept-ing these guys, so are not sure to what extend they’ll appear in the game, as hangers-on, hired guns, or whole gangs, or maybe all the above."

https://yaktribe.games/community/threads/orlocks-gang-war-2-and-more.6274/page-24#post-135672

@Kendoka Some spoiler tags over these large, discussion-related photos would be good

**Messiah**

kendoka wrote:
I honestly cannot understand why some people like the Mad Dog dude (Orlock dog handler).
In my book it is inferior to almost all other sculpts in this, amazing, release.
I need several cyber-dogs, though...

The worst sculpts are obviously the pyrr ”cats”, them being extremely bad and in poses like a Scylla from the nineties...

Spoiler:

I can agree on that, I used to love that skylla model though. What I think youre missing though is that that cat is on its hind legs with both front paws in the air..

**streetsamurai**

7 named bounty hunters seems too much. Hopefully well be able to create interesting generic one

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And yeah, these cats are not too good

**Kijamon**

streetsamurai wrote:
7 named bounty hunters seems too much. Hopefully well be able to create interesting generic one

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And yeah, these cats are not too good

I was one of the lucky ones to get Gang War 2 today. You get 3 profiles for bounty hunters that vary in speed and stats and they cost the same and get the same to spend on equipment.

The generic ones will be very fun to muck about with I think.

**ImAGeek**

That info dump sounds awesome. I’m really excited for the future of ‘Munda.

**gungo**

Gw should release an inqusitor codex utilizing these bounty hunters as part of inqusitor retinues. It would be epic having squats, bounty hunters, rogue traders, and cyber dogs back in 40k even if limited.

**malfred**

Necromunda has officially replaced 40k as my game of choice
to buy lots of but never play.

**schoon**

They are coming out with some downright amazing models for this game. Pretty much all of the character models are gold for me.

**adamsouza**

Bulldogging wrote:
I just went and looked at the range. If an insider told me they were squats and they decided last minute to make them fantasy I wouldn't have doubted it.

I honestly thought they were going to try and go the Chaos Daemons route and use the same models for both games. but that hasn't happened, so I guess just wishful thinking on my part.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Mymearan wrote:I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that the reason you can’t order FW in-store is because they couldn’t cope with the demand that would follow. Resin production on that scale would be a pretty huge leap from their current capacity.

I've heard that too. Resin production is apparently very labor intensive and FW is afraid they simply cannot keep up with the demand that would follow if they went retail.

Chairman Aeon wrote:I mean if GW just ran white metal spincasting again we could get all these pretties in store...

Y'know I had the same thought.

Each of the main casting mediums has its own advantages and disadvantages and it seems that for Necromunda metal is in the sweet spot for mass production. Sure there might be a hit to detail (maybe not, Reaper has some some amazing levels of detail in metal) but if it's the difference between having something in shops or not I would gladly take metal.

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gungo wrote:
Gw should release an inqusitor codex utilizing these bounty hunters as part of inqusitor retinues. It would be epic having squats, bounty hunters, rogue traders, and cyber dogs back in 40k even if limited.

Or just a Dogs of War style book available as their own mercenary army or as allies for all the usual suspects.