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 DarknessEternal wrote:
So now that we're sure Blood Angels are next up, any chance there's a title/thread change?

Why? Dark Angels are coming one week later.

Indeed. Pre order on the 9th, releasing on the 16th

following week is the next wave of EZ build primaris & DG kits

Dark Angels will get chapter-specific Primaris kits - the same as the Blood Angels - hard to make out but it could be with an DA upgrade sprue. There is an advertisement in WD showing three DA specific kits including Aggressors. Aggressors are - this also explained in the letters section - not Terminators and therefore painted green.

Hmm, I know a few people will be happy if they finally get the alternate terminator types, hopefully they will since blood angels apparently are.

SilverAlien wrote:
Hmm, I know a few people will be happy if they finally get the alternate terminator types, hopefully they will since blood angels apparently are.

I would put money on DA getting the Tartaros and Cataphractii.

I was really hoping for DA to get their own Inceptors instead of Aggressors. That way I could get the DA Inceptors and my brother could get the DA BA Aggressors and we could trade the upgrade Sprue.

It would be especially stupid if DA end up with the same themed kits as the BA. Especially since there are already two non-branded Hellblaster and Intercessor kits available.

From Miniwars

Are the BA and DA specific versions of primaris units actually different sprues or just the normal ones with a single chapter specific accessory sprue included?

 warboss wrote:
Are the BA and DA specific versions of primaris units actually different sprues or just the normal ones with a single chapter specific accessory sprue included?

Normal ones with the chapter specific sprue added.

Seems like a waste of shelf space to have 3 kits that are identical with a sprue that would fit in a clamshell that takes up less space?

 NurglesR0T wrote:
Seems like a waste of shelf space to have 3 kits that are identical with a sprue that would fit in a clamshell that takes up less space?

If it makes you feel any better they're also selling the sprue separately, probably in a blister.

Shelf space allocated based on popularity; space marines need to take up more room.

Galas wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Are the BA and DA specific versions of primaris units actually different sprues or just the normal ones with a single chapter specific accessory sprue included?

Normal ones with the chapter specific sprue added.

Thanks. I was hoping that wasn't the case.

NurglesR0T wrote:Seems like a waste of shelf space to have 3 kits that are identical with a sprue that would fit in a clamshell that takes up less space?

Completely agree. It'll end up being 16+ different SKU's (one each for vanilla, BA, DA, and eventually SW) and slots on the wall for stores to bother with when they could have just sold the sprues separately in a clear bag and kept the base models in the vanilla section. YMMV. While I like bling, I have to say the lack of it was a bit refreshing with the Primaris marines and allows players to customize them to the degree they want instead of every standard marine being bogged down with it.

 warboss wrote:
Completely agree. It'll end up being 16+ different SKU's (one each for vanilla, BA, DA, and eventually SW) and slots on the wall for stores to bother with when they could have just sold the sprues separately in a clear bag and kept the base models in the vanilla section. YMMV. While I like bling, I have to say the lack of it was a bit refreshing with the Primaris marines and allows players to customize them to the degree they want instead of every standard marine being bogged down with it.

Especially funny since there had been talks of GW tightening up SKU's due to being too many(reason why FB lost so many kits). Well that obviously only applies to non-marines.

Well on flipside GW's pricing factored separate sprue would probably cost 2x-3x as much as it costs here so at least this should be cheaper way to build those so there's that.

They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?

tneva82 wrote:

Especially funny since there had been talks of GW tightening up SKU's due to being too many(reason why FB lost so many kits). Well that obviously only applies to non-marines.

It's only funny because the "tightening up SKUs" was speculation that ignored that FB lost many kits that were either metal/finecast or older. The plastic stuff was centered around generic things as well.

Well on flipside GW's pricing factored separate sprue would probably cost 2x-3x as much as it costs here so at least this should be cheaper way to build those so there's that.

$15.00 for the Dark Angels and Blood Angels upgrade frames by themselves according to WD. Haven't seen anyone post the prices for the combined kits yet.

 Kanluwen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Especially funny since there had been talks of GW tightening up SKU's due to being too many(reason why FB lost so many kits). Well that obviously only applies to non-marines.

It's only funny because the "tightening up SKUs" was speculation that ignored that FB lost many kits that were either metal/finecast or older. The plastic stuff was centered around generic things as well.

Well on flipside GW's pricing factored separate sprue would probably cost 2x-3x as much as it costs here so at least this should be cheaper way to build those so there's that.

$15.00 for the Dark Angels and Blood Angels upgrade frames by themselves according to WD. Haven't seen anyone post the prices for the combined kits yet.

The BA boxes are:
Intercessors: $60
Aggressors: $55
Hellblasters: $60

I expect that DA will be the same. It's also the same price as the regular boxes, so the 2 upgrade sprues are free. Except the Aggressors, who's box is $5 more.

 Kanluwen wrote:

$15.00 for the Dark Angels and Blood Angels upgrade frames by themselves according to WD.

$12.50, and keep in mind you need 2 for the contents of the intercessor/hellblaster boxes.

Hoping the online retailers can cut it down to 2 for $20.

Still need 5...

Any updates on some rules? Looking at the land raider variant in the WD had me thinking DA we’re turning into Imperial Fists.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Hoping the online retailers can cut it down to 2 for $20.

Still need 5...

Any updates on some rules? Looking at the land raider variant in the WD had me thinking DA we’re turning into Imperial Fists.

In the new White Dwarf there is mention of the new chapter tactic, Grim Resolve. If you do not move you re-roll 1's to hit. First question that springs to mind is whether this specifically changes to a re-roll everything if a captain is giving you re-rolls (like what happens with Cadians using the re-roll 1's order).

The other thing was a warlord trait to get command points back (not enough detail for me to work out the exact specifics).

Other question to my mind is whether we will have the ability to field Deathwing or Ravenwing specific builds with their own chapter tactics. Reason is just that Grim Resolve is not what I would choose for a either of these themes.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see them replaced by DW and SW versions when there books come around.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?

Exactly this. Stock them for a short period to ride the Codex wave, then cut back to one sprue and standard boxes, then eventually take that Direct Only. Not like we can draw patterns from GW behaviour, but this is one they've done before (DW for example) and will again.

Yeah... I think their is a high probability that these are being release to go with the codex. Although they may carry them on for OD.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?

Exactly this. Stock them for a short period to ride the Codex wave, then cut back to one sprue and standard boxes, then eventually take that Direct Only. Not like we can draw patterns from GW behaviour, but this is one they've done before (DW for example) and will again.

I would fully expect those to become Direct Only later. I don't know how much of a 'splash' release these will be as they usually get limited restocks, but I would expect them to last at least 5-6 months before going Direct Only.

Gotta say, the primaris look surprisingly good in that dark angels green.

I was thinking DA would be the hellblasters army and Be overcharged plasma all day long with no side effects.

Currently seems they will be “stubborn Bolter drill” instead.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
I was thinking DA would be the hellblasters army and Be overcharged plasma all day long with no side effects.

Currently seems they will be “stubborn Bolter drill” instead.

Judging by what was said of this Grim Resolve trait in the White Dwarf battle report, Dark Angel Hellblasters are going to be better than others, provided you don't intend to move them much. I play with Heavy Plasma anyway as I like the look over the others so.. not needing a captain to babysit them potentially is a decent start for me!

Do primaris Marines use the normal sized shoulder pads or would they need their own conversion sprue?

Normal.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do primaris Marines use the normal sized shoulder pads or would they need their own conversion sprue?

They use normal shoulder pads. If you don't like the Primaris Upgrade, you could always use the regular Dark Angels upgrade sprue and get the same effect. The sword definitely looks better in the regular upgrade.

So back to using the Ravenwing upgrade sprues?