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2017/11/29 03:07:37
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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DarknessEternal wrote:So now that we're sure Blood Angels are next up, any chance there's a title/thread change?
Why? Dark Angels are coming one week later.
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2017/11/29 03:59:34
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Indeed. Pre order on the 9th, releasing on the 16th
following week is the next wave of EZ build primaris & DG kits
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"Courage and Honour. I hear you murmur these words in the mist, in their wake I hear your hearts beat harder with false conviction seeking to convince yourselves that a brave death has meaning.
There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.
To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
And to you, new-born sons of Gulliman, to you flesh crafted puppets of a failing Imperium I bring the holiest gift of all.... Silence."
- Mortarion, The Death Lord, The Reaper of Men, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle
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2017/11/30 20:09:53
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dark Angels will get chapter-specific Primaris kits - the same as the Blood Angels - hard to make out but it could be with an DA upgrade sprue. There is an advertisement in WD showing three DA specific kits including Aggressors. Aggressors are - this also explained in the letters section - not Terminators and therefore painted green.
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2017/11/30 20:49:17
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hmm, I know a few people will be happy if they finally get the alternate terminator types, hopefully they will since blood angels apparently are.
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2017/11/30 22:28:37
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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SilverAlien wrote:Hmm, I know a few people will be happy if they finally get the alternate terminator types, hopefully they will since blood angels apparently are.
I would put money on DA getting the Tartaros and Cataphractii.
I was really hoping for DA to get their own Inceptors instead of Aggressors. That way I could get the DA Inceptors and my brother could get the DA BA Aggressors and we could trade the upgrade Sprue.
It would be especially stupid if DA end up with the same themed kits as the BA. Especially since there are already two non-branded Hellblaster and Intercessor kits available.
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2017/11/30 23:52:41
Subject: Re:Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2017/12/01 00:20:42
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Are the BA and DA specific versions of primaris units actually different sprues or just the normal ones with a single chapter specific accessory sprue included?
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2017/12/01 00:23:39
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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warboss wrote:Are the BA and DA specific versions of primaris units actually different sprues or just the normal ones with a single chapter specific accessory sprue included?
Normal ones with the chapter specific sprue added.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/12/01 01:25:57
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Seems like a waste of shelf space to have 3 kits that are identical with a sprue that would fit in a clamshell that takes up less space?
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"Courage and Honour. I hear you murmur these words in the mist, in their wake I hear your hearts beat harder with false conviction seeking to convince yourselves that a brave death has meaning.
There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.
To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
And to you, new-born sons of Gulliman, to you flesh crafted puppets of a failing Imperium I bring the holiest gift of all.... Silence."
- Mortarion, The Death Lord, The Reaper of Men, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle
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2017/12/01 01:30:17
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Terrifying Doombull
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NurglesR0T wrote:Seems like a waste of shelf space to have 3 kits that are identical with a sprue that would fit in a clamshell that takes up less space?
If it makes you feel any better they're also selling the sprue separately, probably in a blister.
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2017/12/01 01:30:47
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Shelf space allocated based on popularity; space marines need to take up more room.
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2017/12/01 01:33:50
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Galas wrote: warboss wrote:Are the BA and DA specific versions of primaris units actually different sprues or just the normal ones with a single chapter specific accessory sprue included? Normal ones with the chapter specific sprue added. Thanks. I was hoping that wasn't the case. NurglesR0T wrote:Seems like a waste of shelf space to have 3 kits that are identical with a sprue that would fit in a clamshell that takes up less space? Completely agree. It'll end up being 16+ different SKU's (one each for vanilla, BA, DA, and eventually SW) and slots on the wall for stores to bother with when they could have just sold the sprues separately in a clear bag and kept the base models in the vanilla section. YMMV. While I like bling, I have to say the lack of it was a bit refreshing with the Primaris marines and allows players to customize them to the degree they want instead of every standard marine being bogged down with it.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus! |
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2017/12/01 06:34:32
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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warboss wrote:Completely agree. It'll end up being 16+ different SKU's (one each for vanilla, BA, DA, and eventually SW) and slots on the wall for stores to bother with when they could have just sold the sprues separately in a clear bag and kept the base models in the vanilla section. YMMV. While I like bling, I have to say the lack of it was a bit refreshing with the Primaris marines and allows players to customize them to the degree they want instead of every standard marine being bogged down with it.
Especially funny since there had been talks of GW tightening up SKU's due to being too many(reason why FB lost so many kits). Well that obviously only applies to non-marines.
Well on flipside GW's pricing factored separate sprue would probably cost 2x-3x as much as it costs here so at least this should be cheaper way to build those so there's that.
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2017/12/01 14:25:50
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?
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2017/12/01 14:40:07
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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tneva82 wrote:
Especially funny since there had been talks of GW tightening up SKU's due to being too many(reason why FB lost so many kits). Well that obviously only applies to non-marines.
It's only funny because the "tightening up SKUs" was speculation that ignored that FB lost many kits that were either metal/finecast or older. The plastic stuff was centered around generic things as well.
Well on flipside GW's pricing factored separate sprue would probably cost 2x-3x as much as it costs here so at least this should be cheaper way to build those so there's that.
$15.00 for the Dark Angels and Blood Angels upgrade frames by themselves according to WD. Haven't seen anyone post the prices for the combined kits yet.
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2017/12/03 05:22:16
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Implacable Skitarii
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Kanluwen wrote:tneva82 wrote:
Especially funny since there had been talks of GW tightening up SKU's due to being too many(reason why FB lost so many kits). Well that obviously only applies to non-marines.
It's only funny because the "tightening up SKUs" was speculation that ignored that FB lost many kits that were either metal/finecast or older. The plastic stuff was centered around generic things as well.
Well on flipside GW's pricing factored separate sprue would probably cost 2x-3x as much as it costs here so at least this should be cheaper way to build those so there's that.
$15.00 for the Dark Angels and Blood Angels upgrade frames by themselves according to WD. Haven't seen anyone post the prices for the combined kits yet.
The BA boxes are:
Intercessors: $60
Aggressors: $55
Hellblasters: $60
I expect that DA will be the same. It's also the same price as the regular boxes, so the 2 upgrade sprues are free. Except the Aggressors, who's box is $5 more.
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2017/12/03 05:41:23
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Terrifying Doombull
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Kanluwen wrote:
$15.00 for the Dark Angels and Blood Angels upgrade frames by themselves according to WD.
$12.50, and keep in mind you need 2 for the contents of the intercessor/hellblaster boxes.
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2017/12/03 06:49:42
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Hoping the online retailers can cut it down to 2 for $20.
Still need 5...
Any updates on some rules? Looking at the land raider variant in the WD had me thinking DA we’re turning into Imperial Fists.
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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2017/12/03 08:43:40
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Been Around the Block
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Uriels_Flame wrote:Hoping the online retailers can cut it down to 2 for $20.
Still need 5...
Any updates on some rules? Looking at the land raider variant in the WD had me thinking DA we’re turning into Imperial Fists.
In the new White Dwarf there is mention of the new chapter tactic, Grim Resolve. If you do not move you re-roll 1's to hit. First question that springs to mind is whether this specifically changes to a re-roll everything if a captain is giving you re-rolls (like what happens with Cadians using the re-roll 1's order).
The other thing was a warlord trait to get command points back (not enough detail for me to work out the exact specifics).
Other question to my mind is whether we will have the ability to field Deathwing or Ravenwing specific builds with their own chapter tactics. Reason is just that Grim Resolve is not what I would choose for a either of these themes.
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2017/12/03 09:34:35
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see them replaced by DW and SW versions when there books come around.
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2017/12/03 12:16:36
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?
Exactly this. Stock them for a short period to ride the Codex wave, then cut back to one sprue and standard boxes, then eventually take that Direct Only. Not like we can draw patterns from GW behaviour, but this is one they've done before ( DW for example) and will again.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2017/12/03 12:25:23
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Yeah... I think their is a high probability that these are being release to go with the codex. Although they may carry them on for OD.
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2017/12/03 12:37:06
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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JohnnyHell wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They may well be an effective splash release to go with the codex, but once the stock runs out it goes back to basic kit and separate sprue?
Exactly this. Stock them for a short period to ride the Codex wave, then cut back to one sprue and standard boxes, then eventually take that Direct Only. Not like we can draw patterns from GW behaviour, but this is one they've done before ( DW for example) and will again.
I would fully expect those to become Direct Only later. I don't know how much of a 'splash' release these will be as they usually get limited restocks, but I would expect them to last at least 5-6 months before going Direct Only.
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2017/12/03 15:11:51
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Pious Palatine
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Gotta say, the primaris look surprisingly good in that dark angels green.
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2017/12/03 15:13:07
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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I was thinking DA would be the hellblasters army and Be overcharged plasma all day long with no side effects.
Currently seems they will be “stubborn Bolter drill” instead.
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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2017/12/03 15:41:49
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Uriels_Flame wrote:I was thinking DA would be the hellblasters army and Be overcharged plasma all day long with no side effects.
Currently seems they will be “stubborn Bolter drill” instead.
Judging by what was said of this Grim Resolve trait in the White Dwarf battle report, Dark Angel Hellblasters are going to be better than others, provided you don't intend to move them much. I play with Heavy Plasma anyway as I like the look over the others so.. not needing a captain to babysit them potentially is a decent start for me!
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2017/12/03 17:28:10
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Do primaris Marines use the normal sized shoulder pads or would they need their own conversion sprue?
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2017/12/03 17:29:47
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Normal.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2017/12/03 17:35:14
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Do primaris Marines use the normal sized shoulder pads or would they need their own conversion sprue?
They use normal shoulder pads. If you don't like the Primaris Upgrade, you could always use the regular Dark Angels upgrade sprue and get the same effect. The sword definitely looks better in the regular upgrade.
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2017/12/03 17:40:38
Subject: Codex Dark Angels! Preorder 9th Dec!
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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So back to using the Ravenwing upgrade sprues?
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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