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I've got everything ready to get through my LGS when the Pre-orders drop including 2 sets of the Termies. I'm super excited for this release!

 rybackstun wrote:
I've got everything ready to get through my LGS when the Pre-orders drop including 2 sets of the Termies. I'm super excited for this release!

Same. Looking at 2 sets of termies and jetbikes, 1 of the rest for starters.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 rybackstun wrote:
I've got everything ready to get through my LGS when the Pre-orders drop including 2 sets of the Termies. I'm super excited for this release!

Same. Looking at 2 sets of termies and jetbikes, 1 of the rest for starters.

yeah, two sets of termies here as well. one set'll be used to make HQs. make a HQ and banner bearer and then have a 4 man squad I'm thinking

also thinking I need to figure out a good HQ to attach to my sisters of silence.

BrianDavion wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 rybackstun wrote:
I've got everything ready to get through my LGS when the Pre-orders drop including 2 sets of the Termies. I'm super excited for this release!

Same. Looking at 2 sets of termies and jetbikes, 1 of the rest for starters.

yeah, two sets of termies here as well. one set'll be used to make HQs. make a HQ and banner bearer and then have a 4 man squad I'm thinking

also thinking I need to figure out a good HQ to attach to my sisters of silence.

Grayfax or another Hereticus Inquisitor is a thematically good choice. After reading the Emperor's Legion I hope the Null Maidens are included in the Adeptus Custodes book though.

Interestingly 40k Facebook page, replying to people asking about start collecting Custodes , refers them to the Talons box set, which contains Sisters.

In both 30 and 40k fluff, both Custodes and Sisters recognise they complement each other. A pure 40k Custodes army would have no anti psychic ability for example.

I'm thinking an ally rule that allows sisters with no penalty or they are put in as an Elite choice? A pure sisters army with no new options would be pretty terrible IMO game wise.

From a fluff POV the Sisters of Silence are quite understrength and have been cut off / hidden away from the Imperium for millennia, fighting their own war against heresy and psykers from the shadows until someone flipped the Sister-signal and had them all regroup on Terra.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 rybackstun wrote:
I've got everything ready to get through my LGS when the Pre-orders drop including 2 sets of the Termies. I'm super excited for this release!

Same. Looking at 2 sets of termies and jetbikes, 1 of the rest for starters.

yeah, two sets of termies here as well. one set'll be used to make HQs. make a HQ and banner bearer and then have a 4 man squad I'm thinking

also thinking I need to figure out a good HQ to attach to my sisters of silence.

Grayfax or another Hereticus Inquisitor is a thematically good choice. After reading the Emperor's Legion I hope the Null Maidens are included in the Adeptus Custodes book though.

I'd like to see them included, but 1: it's adeptus costodes not talons of the emperor. 2: surely GW'd have said something about it now.

My GUESS is GW is hoping to make the null maidens their own army, eventually.

 Darkwrath121 wrote:

DaemonJellybaby wrote:
The ForgeWorld guys only heard about doing the 30k -> 40k Custodes rules when we did, apparently someone in Community got carried away...

Woah. Where'd you see this?

I admit that its second-hand information, but its is from a very reliable friend.
The FW Custodes are definately getting done, but not for February.

Not sure I'd call the price for the Terminators ok, but I guess I can live with it since I'm not likely to need all that many.

I wonder what the dice will look like. GW's gotten awfully creative with those lately. Regardless of that, it's good to see there will be Custodes dice.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Initially was excited for this release but with no word about 30k rules for these guess there's no immediate plans. Interest going down fast. At least that's money saved!

Dude, they said the 30K stuff would get 40K rules with this release. Relax.

What good that is for me? 40k rules are 100% useless for me. No use whatsoever. Garbage, trash. Only use I can think of for 40k rules would be to use the paper to start up fire while camping but I'm preeeetty sure there's cheaper methods for that.

Are you just trying to make joke or why you ignore what I wrote? Relevant part bolded.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Interestingly 40k Facebook page, replying to people asking about start collecting Custodes , refers them to the Talons box set, which contains Sisters.

In both 30 and 40k fluff, both Custodes and Sisters recognise they complement each other. A pure 40k Custodes army would have no anti psychic ability for example.

I'm thinking an ally rule that allows sisters with no penalty or they are put in as an Elite choice? A pure sisters army with no new options would be pretty terrible IMO game wise.

It's not really that interesting when you think about it.

It's a discount box. $160 USD for a set of Custodes, a Land Raider, a Contemptor, a squad of Sisters of Silence, and a Rhino.
Priced out individually:
$60 for the Custodes
$60 for the Contemptor
$74.25 for the Land Raider
It's $194.25 for the Custodes portion alone.

$40 for the Sisters of Silence
$37.25 for the Rhino

Grand total for the boxed set? $271.50

Talons of the Emperor saves you a whopping $111.50, not including sales tax. Even factoring in that you might not want the Sisters of Silence or the Rhino?
You can sell them on.
You might only want a single Contemptor(or none) so you can sell that on if you want too.


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 Geifer wrote:
Not sure I'd call the price for the Terminators ok, but I guess I can live with it since I'm not likely to need all that many.

I wonder what the dice will look like. GW's gotten awfully creative with those lately. Regardless of that, it's good to see there will be Custodes dice.

What were the prices? I refuse to give Naftka clickthroughs.

btw the termie custodes are 50$ since they are 30 £

 aracersss wrote:
btw the termie custodes are 50$ since they are 30 £

That might be the case, but the Custodes included in the Talons of the Emperor box are $60. It's the 5 man squad.

 Kanluwen wrote:
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 Geifer wrote:
Not sure I'd call the price for the Terminators ok, but I guess I can live with it since I'm not likely to need all that many.

I wonder what the dice will look like. GW's gotten awfully creative with those lately. Regardless of that, it's good to see there will be Custodes dice.

What were the prices? I refuse to give Naftka clickthroughs.

Per Faeit 202 (in GBP):

Codex: 25
Data cards: 10
Dice: 12.50
Trajann: 22.50
Terminators: 30

Cypher: 20
Girlyman: 37.50
Greyfax: 15
Celestine: 32.50

 Geifer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
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 Geifer wrote:
Not sure I'd call the price for the Terminators ok, but I guess I can live with it since I'm not likely to need all that many.

I wonder what the dice will look like. GW's gotten awfully creative with those lately. Regardless of that, it's good to see there will be Custodes dice.

What were the prices? I refuse to give Naftka clickthroughs.

Per Faeit 202 (in GBP):

Codex: 25
Data cards: 10
Dice: 12.50
Trajann: 22.50
Terminators: 30

Cypher: 20
Girlyman: 37.50
Greyfax: 15
Celestine: 32.50

Awesome.
That'd put us at:
$40 for the Codex
$15 for Datacards.
$20 for Dice
$35 for Trajann.
$50 for the Allarus

$35 for Cypher(the price bracket for Trajann and Cypher is the 20GBP to 22.50GBP price bracket)
$22.25 or thereabouts for Greyfax.
$50 for Celestine(same reasons as to why Cypher is $35)
$60 for Guilliman(price bracket is an exact match for a Grey Knights Strike Squad)

Cant wait to see the dice, I'm a diceaholic

I will be thoroughly shocked if RG ends up being only $60.00. I find it's far more likely he'll be $80.00+.

 oni wrote:
I will be thoroughly shocked if RG ends up being only $60.00. I find it's far more likely he'll be $80.00+.

He's only dreadnought/daemon prince sized, £37.50 already represents a Primarch tax over his actual value.

changemod wrote:

 oni wrote:
I will be thoroughly shocked if RG ends up being only $60.00. I find it's far more likely he'll be $80.00+.

He's only dreadnought/daemon prince sized, £37.50 already represents a Primarch tax over his actual value.

Yeah, anything more than $60 would be a bit extortionate I think.

A Redemptor Dreadnought is $65. $60 is pretty believable for Guilliman.

rumor has it that Custodes Axes are Strength +3, AP -2, D3 Damage

Gonna make Axe Terminators pretty strong, especially if the +1 INV is true.

Compared to normal terminators they will be slightly better at shooting, have twice as many wounds, tougher, much better invulnerable, same strength but hit on 2+ rather than 4+, and have more attacks.

I can definitely see a unit of three of these guys deepstriking and being a major headache for the enemy. You'd either have to commit a good portion of your army to stopping them or let them do what they want.

Part 2 - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/16/adeptus-custodes-preview-part-2-troopsgw-homepage-post-2/

I'm looking forward to seeing if the leaked detachment upgrade invulnerable save boost is real, and what all it'll apply to. Be kinda neat if the land raider got it.

Also, have we established a better word for the detachment faction buff than CT equivalent? I want something snappier.

Edit: well, my timing was amazing on that. Kinda odd that dreadnoughts don't seem to get the invulnerable boost, that makes custodes the first to be even more limited than normal SM, but obj secures on every infantry and biker unit does a good job helping make up for their lack of models.

SilverAlien wrote:
I'm looking forward to seeing if the leaked detachment upgrade invulnerable save boost is real...

You mean this?

The Emperor’s Chosen gives every Infantry and Biker unit in a pure Adeptus Custodes Detachment +1 to their invulnerable saves, to a maximum of 3+. In practice, this means that none of your units, including Custodian Guard, will ever have worse than a 4+ invulnerable save. Combine this with the high Toughness and Wounds characteristics of Adeptus Custodes units, and your army just got a lot more durable, particularly against the kind of heavy weapons – lascannons, krak missiles and Dreadnought power fists – that previously presented a more substantial threat to the Adeptus Custodes.

Yep, managed to post my speculation right as the article went up, looks like the leaks are fairly trustworthy then.

 BrookM wrote:
From a fluff POV the Sisters of Silence are quite understrength and have been cut off / hidden away from the Imperium for millennia, fighting their own war against heresy and psykers from the shadows until someone flipped the Sister-signal and had them all regroup on Terra.

Actually reading their "codex" from 7th edition they are much numerous than the Custodes. They have been reformed and since the Heresy have been... increasing their numbers. The number they give in that book is "tenths of thousands". But I agree that by their own nature, they are too "Niche" of an army to work as a standalone. They should be mixed with the Custodes.

I love it. Everyone has 4++ and hits on 2+

Sworn Guardians is probably the most interesting rule of the bunch, particularly on the bikers. Emperor's Chosen is neat, but seems pretty unnecessary. Shouldn't they have just buffed or renamed Aegis? Good rule though; curious what it will do to the Spear vs Sword/Board choice.

Ok then. Spear custodes. The trade of a 3++ for a 5++ wasn't worth the extra shooting power and +1 strenght in meele. But the difference between 3++ and 4++ is much more palatable.