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Mmmmm those Terminators though. I wanted to use Guilliman as a base for a Slaanesh Daemon Prince leading a warband that takes dleight in making a mockery of the Imperium as they raid and pillage, representing themselves as glorious soldiers of the Imperium. Looks like I just found my Terminator bases.

Some of those helmets are just brilliant.

I spotted a third vexilia ... so both new kits come with one

Well I sure did waste a bunch of money converting bullock jetbikes.

Really nice models, and the 30k range getting 8th rules is good news and will really help to fill the force out. But the lack of a combined Talons list with SoS is disappointing.

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

 Binabik15 wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

It might have to be, as the next logical step from gold is platinum, but that looks too silvery.

But being termies, they have to be standing with their legs as far apart as possible...

 farmersboy wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

It might have to be, as the next logical step from gold is platinum, but that looks too silvery.

But being termies, they have to be standing with their legs as far apart as possible...

...do...do either of you have a recipe for diamond armor painting? I know it was supposed to be a joke but that sounds awesome.

 Binabik15 wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

Custodians are long existing piece of 40k though outdating stormcasts and generally referred as pretyt darn good(which makes sense in that they were designed to be able to beat marines if need be. And now it seems like that's the ultimate purpose they had. To finish up last marines once they had annihilated each other near destruction).

 farmersboy wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

It might have to be, as the next logical step from gold is platinum, but that looks too silvery.

But being termies, they have to be standing with their legs as far apart as possible...

Right? Besides, it'd allow them to sell cheap glitter spray as basecoat

Though they'd get a lot of respect from me if they release a technical paint forming itself into tiny cut gemstones upon drying.

Edit: I know what Custodes are, but they spent decades without being pushed (and one RT mini or where there more?) and now they're suddenly pushed really hard. Like they did with Grey Knights.

Call me when we get Thunder Warriors, they'll look more Mad Max grimdark I bet.

tneva82 wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

Custodians are long existing piece of 40k though outdating stormcasts and generally referred as pretyt darn good(which makes sense in that they were designed to be able to beat marines if need be. And now it seems like that's the ultimate purpose they had. To finish up last marines once they had annihilated each other near destruction).

Eh. They were a long existing piece of background. They stood guard, never left the imperial palace and there weren't many of them. There isn't really any reason to have them wandering around getting in pointless skirmishes

Those jetbikes are much better than the FW ones. Will be buying a bunch to paint up like the ones from the old visions of heresy books.

Bring on the grav rhino.....

Thems jetbikes is purrdy.

The Vets are nice as well. Lotsa bitz incoming.

Glad my 25-ish Custodes (+Ixion Hale) are still waiting to be built.

 Binabik15 wrote:
I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

Not really. Custodes were always the pinnacle of the Imperium's forces. They were to the Emperor what the Space Marines were to the Primarchs. The Grey Knights were never better than them.

And it's not as if the imagery of the Custodes is new either. The Visions of Heresy books gave us the best look at what they'd be and, lo and behold, they look like that.

Voss wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...

I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!


Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.

Custodians are long existing piece of 40k though outdating stormcasts and generally referred as pretyt darn good(which makes sense in that they were designed to be able to beat marines if need be. And now it seems like that's the ultimate purpose they had. To finish up last marines once they had annihilated each other near destruction).

Eh. They were a long existing piece of background. They stood guard, never left the imperial palace and there weren't many of them. There isn't really any reason to have them wandering around getting in pointless skirmishes

I mean, they're just a rarer version of the Grey Knights, who are rarer Space Marines.

If we want to use the principle of "they're super rare and hardly get involved", then we shouldn't see anywhere near the amount of Space Marines we do.

Besides, Custodes lore has evolved with the setting (almost as if the changing universe is creating change in the game too!) wherein Guilliman has told them to actually do something, instead of sitting on Terra like watermelons. Considering you could fluff any situation with Custodes in (they're long standing guardians of a vital Imperial location/they're on a live-fire exercise/they got ambushed/defending Terra) I see no reason they can't be played.

Should they have been prioritised over a xenos faction? Probably not, but giving them an HQ at least wasn't bad.

And of course some have use for totally appropriate use. My 30k games are set in siege of terra. Seems appropriate enough to see them there

Eh. They were a long existing piece of background. They stood guard, never left the imperial palace and there weren't many of them. There isn't really any reason to have them wandering around getting in pointless skirmishes

I mean, they're just a rarer version of the Grey Knights, who are rarer Space Marines.

Fan67 wrote:

Eh. They were a long existing piece of background. They stood guard, never left the imperial palace and there weren't many of them. There isn't really any reason to have them wandering around getting in pointless skirmishes

I mean, they're just a rarer version of the Grey Knights, who are rarer Space Marines.

They are actually 10 times less rare than Grey Knights.
Wel... 8 times if you count losses during the daemonic assault on Terra while Astronomicon had been down.


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Guys, i can’t describe how excited I am.
I’ve been waiting this for 15 years.

How many grey kngiths there are? Seems you say 100,000 seeing 10,000 is what custodians are quoted as being so if there's 10x grey knights then 10,000x10=100,000. Yeah they took casualties against daemons but then again current fluff seems to say they are grown more.

I don’t know what language is your mother tongue, but “less rare” means there are more Custodes than Grey Knights.
GK is just another chapter of +-1000 marines. Adeptus Custodes boasts 10 000 strong numbers.

Daemonic assault on terra costed 2000 cutodes lives according to the novel “Watchers of the throne: emperor’s legion”, meaning there are around 8k custodes at the start of the guilliman’s crusade. I highly doubt they recovered 2k losses in 100 years of combat that followed the dissolution of the law which bound them to Terra.

Still they are 8-10 times more codex worthy material than aforementioned 666th chapter.

You don't think they recovered 2k losses in 10k years?

It would be 2000 losses in about 100 years.

Watchers of the Throne is set during Guilliman's return.

Regarding the post yesterday

Sete - B&C

Well I was expecting a grav transport, flyer and new dread in plastic, but in retrospective, yeah that was a bit too much.

So FW will probably be the way to go for further models

Do we know if they can actually make more Custodes?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Do we know if they can actually make more Custodes?

Seems they can which I don't personally like. They were personal project of Emperor custom made by him individually rather than mass produced. Did he leave instructions somewhere on how to make more of them?

Now, what’s that big beastie in the background?

Looks kinda like a Griffin to me?

tneva82 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Do we know if they can actually make more Custodes?

Seems they can which I don't personally like. They were personal project of Emperor custom made by him individually rather than mass produced. Did he leave instructions somewhere on how to make more of them?

The Emperor can still communicate, per Guilliman, if you're in the throne room which also happens to be a fave hangout space for Custodes. I imagine he told them.

I see. So If the Emperor Had a Text To Speech Device is now canon

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I see. So If the Emperor Had a Text To Speech Device is now canon

He speeks to the Custodes and others on occassion such as Alicia and her companions of the Brides fo the Emepror (later Sisters of Battle), now is this actual speech or telepathy or other -not sure. He even spoke to old Inquisitor Draco back in the day IIRC

Audustum wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Do we know if they can actually make more Custodes?

Seems they can which I don't personally like. They were personal project of Emperor custom made by him individually rather than mass produced. Did he leave instructions somewhere on how to make more of them?

The Emperor can still communicate, per Guilliman, if you're in the throne room which also happens to be a fave hangout space for Custodes. I imagine he told them.

Right that. Though would he give such info to marines he was planning to get rid of in a first place? Well guess plans might change and getting wounded by Horus made him reconsider plan a bit

 Binabik15 wrote:

What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!

Minecraft 40,000 confirmed.

changemod wrote:

Personally I think the FW ones look a lot cooler, but I'll gladly use both.

People like FW ones?

They not only have bad proportions, they have buckethead helmet no human could see through without going chameleon-style cross-eyed. Just compare FW custode terminator head without helmet, the metal bit between lenses on helmet is so wide it would actually cover both eyes. 40K version is so superior in execution it's not even funny.

Ditto with bikes, 30K custodes bike looks like it was made from bent plasticard by someone who got bored halfway and didn't finish it, leaving gap where gun is looking like hole someone forgot to fill. 40K bike not only looks amazing, it makes whole of 30K custode vehicle range look obsolete, irrelevant, lazy, and not really fitting army theme...

What? The custodes vehicle and dreads from fw are extremely cool