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2018/10/19 12:39:20
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/10/19 13:43:14
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
3+ H/W with minimum 12 damage and reroll with the axe(no penalty with wounds remaining), charging damage, has a plan against the endless spells. Only problem is that that 3+ can be increased and has no ++. Otherwise, I'm very glad few game shops actually allow this almost $600 monster to fight, period.
Why? I don't think he's very good for 1200 points, compared to what else is out there.
2018/10/19 13:59:25
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Yeah people are forgetting that at 1200 points he's half of most armies in points cost alone; that's a huge chunk of investment in points in a single model. In theory you could win easily against such a brute just by locking him in combat every turn with one few hundred points of waste units whilst your others secure objectives.
He's tough, powerful and lets face it unlikely to appear at most stores anyway. But will be an utter joy to see on the battlefield and face off against!
If it weren't so khorne heavy I'd seriously want one - as it is I'm hoping whoever designed him is getting to make another powerful looking dragon!
You can easely down that bad boy in a single turn with pure mortal wounds. He has deepstrike so you can't alpha strike him but with a nice screen is not like he can charge your valuable units. Of course if he enters contact with anything that poor creature will become plastic dust.
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/10/19 15:28:03
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
considering that Archaon is supposed to be the big bad of the setting and nigh invincible I really don't understand why they've gone and made a model that could wipe the floor with him in 1v1 combat, I get that there are things out there that could do that e.g. godbeasts but this random mook (who is also allied to chaos) on a dragon, albeit rather large one, really shouldn't be more powerful than Archaon. It just doesn't make sense in terms of the lore.
host of the eternity king 3500pts+ lizardmen 1000pts
and 2000pts+ 8000+ pts 1400+ pts
HH 7700+ pts 1350 pts HH raven guard 2500+ pts 50 pp Idoneth Deepkin 2000 pts
2018/10/23 16:57:37
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Glasdir wrote: considering that Archaon is supposed to be the big bad of the setting and nigh invincible I really don't understand why they've gone and made a model that could wipe the floor with him in 1v1 combat, I get that there are things out there that could do that e.g. godbeasts but this random mook (who is also allied to chaos) on a dragon, albeit rather large one, really shouldn't be more powerful than Archaon. It just doesn't make sense in terms of the lore.
It doesn't makes sense at all. It's a waste of resources. It took almost two years to get it finished. How the rider holds it's weapon is just stupid. He can barely hold it. Forgeworld would probably make more money in just making Stormcast, Kharadron, Idoneth upgrades and etc.. instead of this monster. Although the Dragon is ok, it's way to big.. and like you said it just doesn't make sense compared with everything we know about the AoS fluff and Archaon.
2018/10/23 17:16:08
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Yeah but nor does having Nagash, Alarial or half of the named heroes on the battlefield. Heck even in 40K you can take the likes of The Swarm Lord - units that will fell whole armies single handed and are as near to gods as you can get.
So its in keeping with the rest of the game range to have a god-like being. Also its an excuse to make a huge chaos dragon - where's not the like in that.
FW is made to make profits, but its also made to make those models that otherwise would never get made. This is one of those examples and thus is exactly what FW is there for. Sure not everyone will get one just like not every Space Marine player owns a Thunderhawk Gunship.
Hot Take: Archaon is a chump and always has been. Ghurshy'ish'phak is the true champion of Chaos United
Similarly, Vorgaroth is real dumb, however Skalok is pretty neat upon closer inspection. I really dig how some Chaos beasties have skulls embedded within them, and this big dragon suggests some development of that theme, given its epithet of Skull Host. it is not, of course, remotely well-priced, once you explore the larger resin monster market with its smorgasbord of offerings.
- Salvage
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Archaeon does a lot more than just close combat. Ugly khorne dragon really just does that.
+1 for FW making a giant Kharadron ship. With the exalted guo nerfed into the ground I need a new FW centerpiece to aspire for.
As for fluff performance vs tabletop, I find AoS does a reasonably good job of this, much better than 40k. Archaon, for example, does not just show up and murder armies by himself; he shows up with hundreds of motherfething varanguard.
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Overread wrote: Yeah but nor does having Nagash, Alarial or half of the named heroes on the battlefield. Heck even in 40K you can take the likes of The Swarm Lord - units that will fell whole armies single handed and are as near to gods as you can get.
So its in keeping with the rest of the game range to have a god-like being. Also its an excuse to make a huge chaos dragon - where's not the like in that.
FW is made to make profits, but its also made to make those models that otherwise would never get made. This is one of those examples and thus is exactly what FW is there for. Sure not everyone will get one just like not every Space Marine player owns a Thunderhawk Gunship.
See it from this point. Add long as Trish was working on this hunk of resin, she couldn't mess up other models! That's time and money well invested
2018/10/24 07:01:33
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Overread wrote: Yeah but nor does having Nagash, Alarial or half of the named heroes on the battlefield. Heck even in 40K you can take the likes of The Swarm Lord - units that will fell whole armies single handed and are as near to gods as you can get.
So its in keeping with the rest of the game range to have a god-like being. Also its an excuse to make a huge chaos dragon - where's not the like in that.
FW is made to make profits, but its also made to make those models that otherwise would never get made. This is one of those examples and thus is exactly what FW is there for. Sure not everyone will get one just like not every Space Marine player owns a Thunderhawk Gunship.
See it from this point. Add long as Trish was working on this hunk of resin, she couldn't mess up other models! That's time and money well invested
That's... a good point. Although she did manage to squeeze in some pretty ugly Necromunda pets as well.
2018/10/24 08:10:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/10/24 08:29:18
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Trish Morrison. A sculptor who GW have who tends to specialise in monsters. Gets ragged on quite unfairly a lot for her skills. Personally I've ordered the dragon. Got a few conversion ideas in mind for it.
2018/10/24 08:59:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Trish Morrison. A sculptor who GW have who tends to specialise in monsters. Gets ragged on quite unfairly a lot for her skills. Personally I've ordered the dragon. Got a few conversion ideas in mind for it.
Well, she has a very particular style, with sort of squinty, squat and wrinkly types of monsters, which I tend to find messy, anatomically implausible, generally badly posed and... well, ugly. This dragon is not bad though, in fact I quite like it in comparison to most of her other work. Really wish she hadn't done the Necromunda Phyrr Cats though.
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2018/10/24 14:50:51
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
WizKids will release a licensed Warhammer: Age of Sigmar board game, The Rise and Fall of Anvalor, in April.
Designed by Rustan Hakansson, who has design credits on Nations and Dungeon Rush, The Rise and Fall of Anvalor has players helping to build and defend the city with other factions, at least officially. Each player’s real goal is to gather the most influence in Anvalor and dominate the city, even if it means its ultimate fall. Players build city buildings to gather influence, and defeat enemies during attacks. The player with the most influence at the end of the game wins.
The game is for 1 – 4 players, ages 14 and up, and plays in 1 hour. MSRP is $59.99.
WizKids will also be releasing licensed Warhammer 40,000 products for Dice Masters in November (see “'Warhammer 40K' Invades 'Dice Masters'”).
2018/10/24 14:53:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Saw this in the other thread. From what I can tell it's got Fyrelsayers, Dispossessed, Free Guild, Greenskinz, Skaven, Khorne, Stormcast, Scourge Privateers and Order Serpentis.
An interesting choice of races certainly.
2018/10/24 14:55:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Galas wrote: You can easely down that bad boy in a single turn with pure mortal wounds. He has deepstrike so you can't alpha strike him but with a nice screen is not like he can charge your valuable units. Of course if he enters contact with anything that poor creature will become plastic dust.
Which armies can reliably put out 30 MWs from a range?
Not to mention it's a Leader and can therefore take Ignax's Scales for extra lulz.
2018/10/24 18:51:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Trish Morrison. A sculptor who GW have who tends to specialise in monsters. Gets ragged on quite unfairly a lot for her skills. Personally I've ordered the dragon. Got a few conversion ideas in mind for it.
Well, she has a very particular style, with sort of squinty, squat and wrinkly types of monsters, which I tend to find messy, anatomically implausible, generally badly posed and... well, ugly. This dragon is not bad though, in fact I quite like it in comparison to most of her other work. Really wish she hadn't done the Necromunda Phyrr Cats though.
A lot of Trish Morrison’s stuff seems more inspired by medieval coats of arms, rather than anatomical possibility.
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NinthMusketeer wrote: Archaeon does a lot more than just close combat. Ugly khorne dragon really just does that.
+1 for FW making a giant Kharadron ship. With the exalted guo nerfed into the ground I need a new FW centerpiece to aspire for.
As for fluff performance vs tabletop, I find AoS does a reasonably good job of this, much better than 40k. Archaon, for example, does not just show up and murder armies by himself; he shows up with hundreds of motherfething varanguard.
I’d like to see a sort of aircract carrier for Kharadron. Middling level of Dakka for its size, but able to harbour say, four of the Grundstokk Gunhaulers, and be able to keep them safe from incoming firepower. Somewhere between a medium gunship and ablative Wounds,
Would certainly look cool!
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Galas wrote: You can easely down that bad boy in a single turn with pure mortal wounds. He has deepstrike so you can't alpha strike him but with a nice screen is not like he can charge your valuable units. Of course if he enters contact with anything that poor creature will become plastic dust.
Which armies can reliably put out 30 MWs from a range?
Not to mention it's a Leader and can therefore take Ignax's Scales for extra lulz.
Can unique characters take artifacts in 2.0?
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
2018/10/24 19:43:37
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Galas wrote: You can easely down that bad boy in a single turn with pure mortal wounds. He has deepstrike so you can't alpha strike him but with a nice screen is not like he can charge your valuable units. Of course if he enters contact with anything that poor creature will become plastic dust.
Which armies can reliably put out 30 MWs from a range?
Not to mention it's a Leader and can therefore take Ignax's Scales for extra lulz.
Can unique characters take artifacts in 2.0?
No they can not take an artefact.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/10/24 19:47:00
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : Beasts errata and commentary & ally changes
Galas wrote: You can easely down that bad boy in a single turn with pure mortal wounds. He has deepstrike so you can't alpha strike him but with a nice screen is not like he can charge your valuable units. Of course if he enters contact with anything that poor creature will become plastic dust.
Which armies can reliably put out 30 MWs from a range?
Not to mention it's a Leader and can therefore take Ignax's Scales for extra lulz.
No artifact.
Me? I'd throw 30 Pink Horrors at him and make him chew through 150 wounds of demons while I blast him with magic from a safe distance.
She/Her
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and 
2000pts+ 
8000+ pts 
1400+ pts
1350 pts HH raven guard 2500+ pts 
50 pp Idoneth Deepkin 2000 pts 
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
