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**Tiberius501**

Raulengrin wrote:
Full point sheet via Kitetsu's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6azsBI27ElY

Around the 18:12 mark.

Here it is typed out in a somewhat chaotic fashion. Typically goes Name - Size - Points/Horde Discount - Role/notes. You're smart people. I'm sure you'll be fine.

Spoiler:

Stabbas 20-60 130 360 Battleline
Dankhold Troggboss 1 300 Leader
Fungoid Cave Shaman 1 90 Leader
Loonboss 1 70 Leader
Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig 1 110 Leader
Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig 1 100 Leader
Madcap Shaman 1 80 Leader
Mollog 1 170 Leader
Scuttleboss on Gigantic Spider 1 100 Leader
Skragrott, the Loonking 1 220 Leader
Webspinner Shaman 1 80 Leader
Zarbag 1 160 Leader
Zarbag's Gitz 7 160* pts paid with Zarbag
Loonboss on Mangler Squig 1 300 Leader, Behemoth
Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider 1 300 Leader, Behemoth
Aleguzzler Gargant 1 160 Behemoth
Arachnarok Spider with Flinger 1 270 Behemoth
Arachnarok Spider with Spiderfang Warparty 1 250 Behemoth
Mangler Squigs 1 240 Behemoth
Brewgit 1 240** **Taken together as set for 240 pts
Spiker 1 240**
Boggleye 1 240**
Shroomancer 1 240**
Scaremonger 1 240**
Boingrot Bounderz 5-15 100
Dankhold Troggoth 1-3 220
Fellwater Troggoth 3-12 160 Battleline with Dankhold Troggboss General
Loonsmasha Fanatics 5-15 140
Rockgut Troggoths 3-12 160 Battleline with Dankhold Troggboss General
Sneaky Snufflers 5-15 70
Spider Riders 5-30 100 540 Battleline with Spiderfang General
Sporesplatta Fanatics 5-15 120
Squig Herd 6-24 70 Battleline with Moonclan General
Squig Hoppers 5-20 90 Battleline with Giant Cave Squig or Mangler Squig mounted General
BATTALIONS Pts
Arachnarok Spider Cluster 100
Gobbapalooza 110
Moonclan Skrap 120
Skitterstrand Nest 110
Skullmob Horde 160
Spiderfang Stalktribe 110
Spider Rider Skitterswarm 120
Squigalanche 90
Squig Rider Stampede 140
Troggherd 180
ENDLESS SPELLS Pts
Malevolent Moon 50
Mork's Mighty Mushroom 80
Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron 50
Scuttletide 30
TERRAIN Pts

Wow, dank meme troggoths can be taken in a unit of 1-3? That's pretty awesome. And Boingrot Bounderz being 5 for 100 seems like a steal. I'd gladly pay 200 for a unit of 10. And 160 for 3 rockgut trolls? These point costs seem pretty nice to me

**H.B.M.C.**

Lord Kragan wrote:
Pot. Meet Kettle.

*sigh* That's not really what the phrase means, but if you insist on further embarrassing yourself...

Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron wrote:When the Scrapskuttle’s Arachnacauldron is set up, and at the start of each of the caster’s hero phases after it is set up, you must pick 1 unit within 3" of the caster. That unit suffers D3 mortal wounds. Note that this means that if there are no other units within 3" of the caster, then the caster will suffer the mortal wounds.

Look! More mortals wounds. Just like I fething said.

**Chikout**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
Pot. Meet Kettle.
*sigh* That's not really what the phrase means, but if you insist on further embarrassing yourself...

Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron wrote:When the Scrapskuttle’s Arachnacauldron is set up, and at the start of each of the caster’s hero phases after it is set up, you must pick 1 unit within 3" of the caster. That unit suffers D3 mortal wounds. Note that this means that if there are no other units within 3" of the caster, then the caster will suffer the mortal wounds.
Look! More mortals wounds. Just like I fething said.

It is true that the endless spells all deal mortal wounds, but that is not all they do. One buffs a spell caster and has to be fed mortals wounds. One can be used to block off parts of the battlefield to the enemy while allowing you to move freely if you have a spider army. One is a fairly typical mortal wound generator that is particularly powerful against hordes. The last also generates mortal wounds but also debuffs enemy spell casting which is very useful in AoS right now.

**Osorios**

And the old trolls, goblin fanatics and squigs are gone from Games Workshop webstore. A shame -- I had just considered getting some of the old models, as I never had bought any. I'm not quite sure why GW doesn't put the figures on "last chance to buy" or something. Oh well.

**RIPferdy**

It's best to block hbmc it gets rid of a lot of random gripe tripe

**Earth127**

When I see that skaven I can't help but think he really rocks his gun.

**Overread**

To my eye its a rocking rocket launcher!

**NinthMusketeer**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
Pot. Meet Kettle.
*sigh* That's not really what the phrase means, but if you insist on further embarrassing yourself...

Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron wrote:When the Scrapskuttle’s Arachnacauldron is set up, and at the start of each of the caster’s hero phases after it is set up, you must pick 1 unit within 3" of the caster. That unit suffers D3 mortal wounds. Note that this means that if there are no other units within 3" of the caster, then the caster will suffer the mortal wounds.
Look! More mortals wounds. Just like I fething said.

It does mortal wounds =/= the purpose is to do mortal wounds. You are clearly wrong here.

**Jackal90**

That Skryre warlock!
I'm hoping that's the doom rocket that's made a return.
Seems like an insanely one sided match though.

Small armies mean a small board, flesh eaters will decimate them up close and it's not a great deal of shooting.
Does however mean a new model and cheap eBay skryre for me so happy days.
Just hoping it's followed with a plastic acolyte kit so I don't have to convert any more.

**NinthMusketeer**

Skryre has the edge actually; stormfiends will beat the crap out of any one of those FEC units in melee so they will need to be ganged up on, leaving the other units more room to shoot. This is assuming the stormfiends have the pictured weapon options and not what people actually take (3x warpfire) in which case the Skryre wins hands down unless that FEC hero is a serious badass.

**Kanluwen**

Looks like retailers got the new prices for Start Collectings thanks to the forthcoming price adjustment...

And Maggotkin of Nurgle and Idoneth Deepkin sets were listed!

**Overread**

Kanluwen wrote:
Looks like retailers got the new prices for Start Collectings thanks to the forthcoming price adjustment...

And Maggotkin of Nurgle and Idoneth Deepkin sets were listed!

Were Daughters of Khaine?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Pinched from the price rise thread.

**Kanluwen**

Overread wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Looks like retailers got the new prices for Start Collectings thanks to the forthcoming price adjustment...

And Maggotkin of Nurgle and Idoneth Deepkin sets were listed!

Were Daughters of Khaine?

Sadly not. I'm wondering if they're going to do one when they release a hero blister.

**Overread**

In fairness DoK do seem to need a second-wave release. When one looks at the releases that grots and Idoneth have had its clear that GW is boosting up armies to be larger now for AoS in terms of unit diversity. DoK are still "small" in general (at least in terms of kits if you ignore the fact that the cauldron makes multiple options). A second wave with a new leader in a start collecting box and a set of endless spells would be good (though saying that Idoneth also need their endless spells too)

**Sqorgar**

Overread wrote:
In fairness DoK do seem to need a second-wave release. When one looks at the releases that grots and Idoneth have had its clear that GW is boosting up armies to be larger now for AoS in terms of unit diversity. DoK are still "small" in general (at least in terms of kits if you ignore the fact that the cauldron makes multiple options). A second wave with a new leader in a start collecting box and a set of endless spells would be good (though saying that Idoneth also need their endless spells too)

I think they’ll do this kind of release for older factions (Sylvaneth, Kharadron, Fyreslayers) when they update the Battletome. Problem with DoK is that it already has a new style Battletome. It and Deepkin’s were supposedly made with AoS2 already in mind. They do need some endless spells though.

**Kanluwen**

Overread wrote:
In fairness DoK do seem to need a second-wave release. When one looks at the releases that grots and Idoneth have had its clear that GW is boosting up armies to be larger now for AoS in terms of unit diversity. DoK are still "small" in general (at least in terms of kits if you ignore the fact that the cauldron makes multiple options). A second wave with a new leader in a start collecting box and a set of endless spells would be good (though saying that Idoneth also need their endless spells too)

Idoneth also need an Akhelian on a monster mount to really finish out their setup.

The King is nice and all but could really use that monstrous mount...

I'm, personally, thinking that the 'new leader' for DoK is going to be something mounted to go along with the theme that the Doomfires can setup.

And for a bit of wild speculation with regards to the contents of Deepkin:
1x Akhelian King
1x Akhelian Eel Riders
1x Akhelian Allopex

**Ghaz**

Found the prices for the second Gloomspite Gitz wave (in euros):

GLOOMSPITE GITZ ROCKGUT TROGGOTHS € 45,00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ SNEAKY SNUFFLERS € 32,50
GLOOMSPITE GITZ MANGLER SQUIGS € 65,00
GLOOMSPITE GITS DANKHOLD TROGGOTH € 55,00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ GOBBAPALOOZA € 40,00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ LOONBOSS € 20,00

Which in US dollars should work out to...

GLOOMSPITE GITZ ROCKGUT TROGGOTHS $ 60.00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ SNEAKY SNUFFLERS $ 40.00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ MANGLER SQUIGS $ 82.50
GLOOMSPITE GITS DANKHOLD TROGGOTH $ 65.00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ GOBBAPALOOZA $ 50.00
GLOOMSPITE GITZ LOONBOSS $ 25.00

**Eldarsif**

Feel like DoK could do with a hero that is either Sister of Slaughter and/or Khinerai.

Personally I feel that GW could have harvested a bit more from the old Dark Elf range into Daughters of Khaine. The Dark Elf Sorceress and one on the dragon could have fit relatively easy into a DoK theme army.

**PiñaColada**

As someone who doesn't play AoS but am getting mighty tempted to just buy some gitz and at that point might dabble in them game, can someone explain to me if the sneaky snufflers are at all good? I love truffle squigs (and that's something I never though I'd say a couple of weeks ago)

**Sarouan**

Let's be honest : these kits will be usable in many others games as well, including those from Mantic Games. But also for RPG. I mean, they gakking have goblin "truffle hunters", and the gobbapalooza have such character that they are perfect for some quite excentric goblin NPC/opponent.

Really the best way to start a new green year.

**Danny76**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
Pot. Meet Kettle.
*sigh* That's not really what the phrase means, but if you insist on further embarrassing yourself...

Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron wrote:When the Scrapskuttle’s Arachnacauldron is set up, and at the start of each of the caster’s hero phases after it is set up, you must pick 1 unit within 3" of the caster. That unit suffers D3 mortal wounds. Note that this means that if there are no other units within 3" of the caster, then the caster will suffer the mortal wounds.
Look! More mortals wounds. Just like I fething said.
It does mortal wounds =/= the purpose is to do mortal wounds. You are clearly wrong here.

By that he is specifically right.

He said they all do Mortal Wounds.
Unless I missed another post where he then said their “purpose” is to do Mortal Wounds...

Automatically Appended Next Post:

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I love how all the endless spells are slightly different ways of delivering Mortal Wounds.

For ease as it’s acouple of pages back now..

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Moving away from pointless petty sniping for no reason..

Regarding the FEC.
I think in no way are they getting more than that character unfortunately guys..
Don’t get too excited.

Look at all the other army boxes that had new characters in them, how many got other releases?
Necrons, Eldar etc. Not sure on the AoS ones without checking up..

(Endless Spells And a terrain piece though, perhaps, as that seems to be something all armies are slowly getting, whether other new bits or not..)

**Sarouan**

Danny76 wrote:

By that he is specifically right.

He said they all do Mortal Wounds.
Unless I missed another post where he then said their “purpose” is to do Mortal Wounds...

Still beating that dead horse ? By the way, it's completely false, since the "vanilla" endless spells don't do all Mortal Wounds.

Prismatic Palisade is a summoned obstacle, Emerald Lifeswarm heals, Balewind Vortex enhances the caster it carries, Chronomantic Cogs are one of the favorite played for their easy buffs and making it more difficult for the opponent to benefit from it and, of course, Umbral Spellportal's only purpose is to give another entrypoint/exit point for spells cast at one side of the portal.

Even one of the spells from Stormcast Eternals is basically a flying Balewind Vortex.

So, no, they're not just about "doing mortal wounds". It's more about "using a miniature to play spell effects".

**Danny76**

He looked at these new Endless Spells, then said oh love that they all do MW.
I never saw him mention all the endless spells in the game? So why are you just naming spells?

I don’t really care about the fact they do it or not, but everyone is jumping on him for something he didn’t say. Which to be fair is typical Dakka..

Yeah he may have been rude in reply at some point, i forget by now as this keeps going on, but even then clarified what it was he meant (which you’d think he would know, as he made the comment) yet still people are arguing it..

**BrookM**

Okay kids, kindly take the dead horse beating (cruel bunch you lot are!) about the whole "IT'S JUST MORE MORTAL WOUNDS, NYEH!" elsewhere okay?

Many thanks!

**Danny76**

Just repost the other half of my post as that’s what I wanted to discuss:

Regarding the FEC.
I think in no way are they getting more than that character unfortunately guys..
Don’t get too excited.

Look at all the other army boxes that had new characters in them, how many got other releases?
Necrons, Eldar etc. Not sure on the AoS ones without checking up..

(Endless Spells And a terrain piece though, perhaps, as that seems to be something all armies are slowly getting, whether other new bits or not..)

**CragHack**

What the heck

Are they for real? Sold out already?

GW, overall, has been following this weird trend lately, with many, many products going to "sold out - no longer available". Mostly specialist game dice, blood bowl pitches, etc.

**Danny76**

Shows how popular these guys are gonna be!

But surely this won’t be a No Longer Available for these will it, before even release?
They’ll have to do more

**BrookM**

Datacards can be quite handy, depending on the army in question. I loved GW doing them for Imperial Knights, especially with the special wound tokens.

I think this is just a case of them not printing enough and being caught off guard by demand.

**CragHack**

But why label them with "sold out - no longer available", when they already put "temporary out of stock". This kind of stuff scares a lot of people and goads them into buying from scalpers. Who, I think, will be more than happy to sell them for x5 the price.