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 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly, I feel like the only thing that Flesh Eaters were missing was a cheap plastic hero that doesn't offset the building of a boxed set...

And while he isn't available outside of Carrion Empire yet this is a good thing!

And a plastic Varghulf.

Given the Brettonian imagery on the eternal spells - and indeed their entire concept - I do wish the FEC had a ghoulified chalice maiden equivalent. The entire concept could have had a few more character types.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly, I feel like the only thing that Flesh Eaters were missing was a cheap plastic hero that doesn't offset the building of a boxed set...

And while he isn't available outside of Carrion Empire yet this is a good thing!

And a plastic Varghulf.

If only ...

I feel FEC could do with dedicated clampacks for the different hero options, with maybe the two 'Knight' heroes being made from one kit, as having to use the unit kits gives you incomplete units.

Rules are up on Warhammer Community. Well, some are.

Characters are pretty nice!

that the summon knights abilitiy of the Regent let you bring things that are in no way knights, really illustrate the narrowness of the FEC range. Shame, since I really like the models and the concept

This weeks prices

Carrion Empire £95 $160

Skaven Battletome £25 $40
Skaven Endless Spells £20 $35
Skaven Dice £17.50 $30
Skaven Gnawholes £32.50 $55
Skaven Clanrats (repack) £20.50 $35
Skaven Warscroll Cards £15 $25

FEC Battletome £25 $40
FEC Endless Spells £20 $35
FEC Charnel Throne £20.50 $35
FEC Warscroll Cards £10 $15

Interesting that there's no collectors edition for either Battletome.

Carrion Empire is also a LOT cheaper than I thought it would be considering the recent price rises. It's £162.5 without adding the book and two new models which could easily be another £30-40 for both. So near enough to £200 worth of content for £95 - that's a 50% saving!

A big saving considering that it basically has everything from Carrion Empire inside it save for the Dragon model.

 Overread wrote:
Interesting that there's no collectors edition for either Battletome.

Carrion Empire is also a LOT cheaper than I thought it would be considering the recent price rises. It's £162.5 without adding the book and two new models which could easily be another £30-40 for both. So near enough to £200 worth of content for £95 - that's a 50% saving!

A big saving considering that it basically has everything from Carrion Empire inside it save for the Dragon model.

Indeed, I am astonished and delighted that Carrion Empire still costs the same as Wrath & Rapture.

Are we really surprised by them not raising the price on items they didn't have listed as them raising the price on...?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Are we really surprised by them not raising the price on items they didn't have listed as them raising the price on...?

How would they announce a price hike on products not released yet, exactly?

In fairness they rose the price on a few getting started sets (or at least announced them) before they were releases (Idoneth to name one)

That said yes I'm still surprised because the duel packs never formally had a unified price and they could easily have introduced it at a higher price without any issue. That said they've only ever got as far as £150 with them (Adepticus Titanicus) and that did generally well at launch but was a smaller production run than normal.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Royal Zombie Dragon is probably a renaming so they can give it different rules than the one in Legions of Nagash.

It's the Black Coach all over again!

 streetsamurai wrote:
that the summon knights abilitiy of the Regent let you bring things that are in no way knights, really illustrate the narrowness of the FEC range.

Uhh...

 streetsamurai wrote:
Shame, since I really like the models and the concept

Maybe I'm misreading what you are saying, but at a glance I don't think you understand the concept of FEC.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Royal Zombie Dragon is probably a renaming so they can give it different rules than the one in Legions of Nagash.

It's the Black Coach all over again!

Yeah, it's not like one is tiny, gakky model driving around on wheels and the other is huge, flying contraption three times the size of the other, eh?

I still have no idea from where this dumb meme came from, it's like people just looked at 40K BT Castellan (the Black Templar generic HQ guy), GK Castellan (Crowe, the Grey Knights champion), AM Castellan (Legio Cybernetica robot) and IK Castellan (the new big stompy Imperial Knight) and declared similar name totally means identical stats...

 Irbis wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Royal Zombie Dragon is probably a renaming so they can give it different rules than the one in Legions of Nagash.

It's the Black Coach all over again!

Yeah, it's not like one is tiny, gakky model driving around on wheels and the other is huge, flying contraption three times the size of the other, eh?

I still have no idea from where this dumb meme came from, it's like people just looked at 40K BT Castellan (the Black Templar generic HQ guy), GK Castellan (Crowe, the Grey Knights champion), AM Castellan (Legio Cybernetica robot) and IK Castellan (the new big stompy Imperial Knight) and declared similar name totally means identical stats...

That's an impressive stretch even for a dyed in the wool GW apologist.

What people wanted was the new coach to replace the old one and get a warscroll that worked with either force. Instead it's a strange situation:

The older Black Coach didn't even get renamed until an errata so the LoN book still has it named "Black Coach". It isn't like the 40k name comparison at all; the difference is in an adjective added after the fact and it is for two factions that already have a number of overlapping units present in both. Further, the model for the older one is gone, so searching for a black coach as a product only shows one kit. And GW has said that the new kit cannot be used for the legion black coach. Icing on the cake is that the legion black coach (a 7-wound hero) needs to be on the same base as the new one.

Might just do FEC to tide me over until slaanesh get's updated for AOS. I am quite excited for the lore actually and I think the delusions of the ghoul kings are a great narrative tool.

we haven't heard anything about when the new sc boxes comes out or what's in them right?

 Alexonian wrote:
we haven't heard anything about when the new sc boxes comes out or what's in them right?

FEC has a start collecting, and I don't imagine they'll change it up since it has essentially every FEC sprue in it. As for Skaven, I don't think we'll see a SC for a while - they usually don't come out close to release. Gloomspite still doesn't have theirs, nor has it been previewed. I don't even think Nightnaunt has one

Edit: Not even Deepkin! I think it'll be a while...

 shinros wrote:
Might just do FEC to tide me over until slaanesh get's updated for AOS. I am quite excited for the lore actually and I think their delusions of the ghoul kings are a great narrative tool.

My fingers are crossed for LVO announcements for Slaanesh.

Cataphract wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Might just do FEC to tide me over until slaanesh get's updated for AOS. I am quite excited for the lore actually and I think their delusions of the ghoul kings are a great narrative tool.

My fingers are crossed for LVO announcements for Slaanesh.

Please...don't. Keeping my expectations low at the moment. :X

 Overread wrote:
In fairness they rose the price on a few getting started sets (or at least announced them) before they were releases (Idoneth to name one)

That said yes I'm still surprised because the duel packs never formally had a unified price and they could easily have introduced it at a higher price without any issue. That said they've only ever got as far as £150 with them (Adepticus Titanicus) and that did generally well at launch but was a smaller production run than normal.

No idea how formal you need things to be but he 95 pound price point has strong precedent throughout the last years, whereas Titanicus is not just a specialist game that may or may not conform with GW's general approach, it's also on record as being redone to please the fanbase (with plastic titans and all), making it an outlier if ever there was one.

Honestly I'm not surprised at the price at all. GW making the jump from two to three digits in their home market, now that would be a big surprise to me. They have been super hesitant to do that, and with good reason.

 shinros wrote:

Cataphract wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Might just do FEC to tide me over until slaanesh get's updated for AOS. I am quite excited for the lore actually and I think their delusions of the ghoul kings are a great narrative tool.

My fingers are crossed for LVO announcements for Slaanesh.

Please...don't. Keeping my expectations low at the moment. :X

As far as I'm concerned GW could hurry along and finally give us new Slaanesh models, but in the spirit of stunting your expectations: Even if Slaanesh is announced at LVO, GW could still push the preview period and release it as late as May. That will put the release three months out, so the maximum of their usual preview period, and roughly half a year after Wrath and Rapture which is also hardly unprecedented.

 Jpogfreak886 wrote:

 Alexonian wrote:
we haven't heard anything about when the new sc boxes comes out or what's in them right?

FEC has a start collecting, and I don't imagine they'll change it up since it has essentially every FEC sprue in it. As for Skaven, I don't think we'll see a SC for a while - they usually don't come out close to release. Gloomspite still doesn't have theirs, nor has it been previewed. I don't even think Nightnaunt has one

Edit: Not even Deepkin! I think it'll be a while...

meant the deepkin and maggotkin ones we know are coming

Skaven also have a box - its called Pestilens, but all the models work for other clans, esp now that they are going to be unified. You've got a warp lightning cannon or plague thrower; and a plague furnace or the classic screaming bell.

Im hoping darkoaths will be previewed at LVO

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Im hoping darkoaths will be previewed at LVO

Dark Oath and Slaanesh second wave are big hopes as is seeing one of the Aelve forces - Light or Dark.

But they could also go full destruction and do stuff for Orks.

A strong slaanesh/WoC (read Darkoath) could be a nice opener for the fiscal excercise.

As much as I’d love to see Light Aelves previewed, I highly expect they’ll be much later. So if they’re showing anything I’d expect Darkoath and/or Slaanesh.

But they may just be showing random little things, or might focus more on 40k.

I really hope I’m wrong though, my pants are bloated with excitement for Light Aelves.

Fingers crossed for Slaanesh!