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 Haighus wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
The 'Judgements Of Khorne' are fantastic. And they show that non magic armies can get something like Endless Spells. Here's hoping that Overlords can get 'Endless Weather' or something.

It will be something Aether-based most likely. Aether gold is magical right?

Aetheric phenomena or something.

I was rather thinking something mechanical - floating Endrin Mines or missiles or some kind of drone automaton?

 Oguhmek wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
The 'Judgements Of Khorne' are fantastic. And they show that non magic armies can get something like Endless Spells. Here's hoping that Overlords can get 'Endless Weather' or something.

It will be something Aether-based most likely. Aether gold is magical right?

Aetheric phenomena or something.

I was rather thinking something mechanical - floating Endrin Mines or missiles or some kind of drone automaton?

Or calling in some sort of fire support from the bigger ships that are only shown in pictures in the Battletome.

Skymine fields...Aetherstorm...something else.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/08/8th-feb-flesh-eater-courts-preview-endless-spells-and-the-charnel-thronegw-homepage-post-4/

FEC

Fence spell is fantastic, goblet is redundant, stampede is brutal.

Throne is weak as faction terrain goes, basically just mitigates that random downside FEC have of having to pay command points for their summons.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/08/8th-feb-flesh-eater-courts-preview-endless-spells-and-the-charnel-thronegw-homepage-post-4/

FEC

Fence spell is fantastic, goblet is redundant, stampede is brutal.

Throne is weak as faction terrain goes, basically just mitigates that random downside FEC have of having to pay command points for their summons.

I think the Goblet is pretty good, since it goes off on both turns.

The Terrain feature does seem kind of weak. I don't think it's been confirmed if the summon ability is still once a game has it? If not, then that can be a pretty strong play to get a lot of units on the board first turn if you can do it the following turns for CPs.

The Goblet is good for a tarpit situation; increasing the lifespan once you get into combat. Sure it can't move ,but at the same time if you're locking into close combat and holding an objective or other key point you don't need to move around much.

The wall is very neat as both area denial and an emergency shield from ranged attacks

With the throne as well I see it that FEC got a lot of defensive/tarpit/holding the line bonuses and then got an attack spell of charging undead horses on top! Though the spell does make one thing if GW might one day give them undead rotting cavalry of their own as dedicated models!

 Sasori wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/08/8th-feb-flesh-eater-courts-preview-endless-spells-and-the-charnel-thronegw-homepage-post-4/

FEC

Fence spell is fantastic, goblet is redundant, stampede is brutal.

Throne is weak as faction terrain goes, basically just mitigates that random downside FEC have of having to pay command points for their summons.

I think the Goblet is pretty good, since it goes off on both turns.

The Terrain feature does seem kind of weak. I don't think it's been confirmed if the summon ability is still once a game has it? If not, then that can be a pretty strong play to get a lot of units on the board first turn if you can do it the following turns for CPs.

Safe assumption summons are still 1/game. No way they'd let Archregents just sit on that chair and summon 160 pts apiece every round.

 lord_blackfang wrote:


Safe assumption summons are still 1/game. No way they'd let Archregents just sit on that chair and summon 160 pts apiece every round.

looks at Seraphon

Yeah. That would be broken.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Skymine fields...Aetherstorm...something else.

Drillbill flock?

pgmason wrote:
Drillbill flock?

That's good! I like that! I like that a lot!

Safe assumption summons are still 1/game. No way they'd let Archregents just sit on that chair and summon 160 pts apiece every round.

I'd say thats probably not going to be how it is. It lets them use that ability for free. It doesn't say once a game. Its an ability that costs command points right now but near that terrain they don't need command points.

In essence, they are opening the flood gates to seraphon level summoning for other armies.

Free points mania.

Are there no clues about what warcry will be like?



I am very intrigued

could the video about something ancient and terrible being awaken, refer to TK? :p

New Zealand website now has all the new stuff including Warpfire throwers for Skaven!! Yes they are back it seems!

 Overread wrote:
New Zealand website now has all the new stuff including Warpfire throwers for Skaven!! Yes they are back it seems!

And in metal to boot.

There are a number of Skaven models that go out of stock all the time but have not actually been eliminated yet. I'm guessing people just buy them really fast since a lot of them are really good models given they are still metal/resin.

Far as I can tell Skaven have only lost two. The Metal Warlord and Metal Assassin (the former gone form the UK site the latter now last chance). As both have a resin version (and warlord also has plastic) it makes sense that GW can drop them easily.

My gut feeling is that GW wanted to keep all the skaven stuff, but didn't have a slot to update them so pushed them in early (likely with a view to updating models much later) and is just going to soak the cost of the metals being produced - I think they are about the last metals (along with some in Eldar and gutbusters) so its not a huge amount of inventory to keep up with production wise.

I thikn over the last weeks there's been more pressure to buy because traditionally a new Battletome has seen us lose metal models and finecast ones. So there's probably been more pressure on them now than earlier but yeah things like the Warpstone Grinder jump in and out of stock all the time.

I don't know what the NZ prices were on them before, did the clanrat rebox change their price at all?

are the warscrolls for carrion empire broken for everyone? wanted to check out the rules

I guess we wont get them until tomorrow....

Endless spells for Khorne are dumb and lazy (yeah I know they are not officially spells, but they work and look like all the other spells, so they are spells)

Not a huge fan of the new skulltaker either.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Endless spells for Khorne are dumb and lazy (yeah I know they are not officially spells, but they work and look like all the other spells, so they are spells)

Not a huge fan of the new skulltaker either.

Can you link me to where they said how they work?

Whats the difference with buying individual army books vs Grand Alliance tomes? Is it just less fluff for each army, or what?

 skullking wrote:
Whats the difference with buying individual army books vs Grand Alliance tomes? Is it just less fluff for each army, or what?

I think they just mean armies across all 4 grand alliances will be getting updates this year. Unlike 2018 which (correct me if I'm wrong) had 0 Destruction forces with a new battletome.

Hopefully we get some youtube reviews of FEC and Skaven tomorrow.

The 'Grand Alliance' books were essentially the AoS version of the 40K Indexes. Basically when it says 'New Battletomes for every Grand Alliance' it means at least one faction from each Grand Alliance will receive their own Battletome.

 aracersss wrote:
could the video about something ancient and terrible being awaken, refer to TK? :p

Here's hoping it's a little more purple/pink than that.

 Overread wrote:
New Zealand website now has all the new stuff including Warpfire throwers for Skaven!! Yes they are back it seems!

Is it just me, or is it weird they're still using that Old metal version of that specific mini, while we have a more updated version in the Island of Blood/Spire of Dawn Box? The Rat Ogres as well.

Why haven't they made those models a seperate box replacing the Older ones?

I'm hoping for rules for playing the iron horde in the Blades of Khorne book. they had the coolest fluff traveling around on a giant metal scorpion with a city on it's back.

 Segersgia wrote:

 Overread wrote:
New Zealand website now has all the new stuff including Warpfire throwers for Skaven!! Yes they are back it seems!

Is it just me, or is it weird they're still using that Old metal version of that specific mini, while we have a more updated version in the Island of Blood/Spire of Dawn Box? The Rat Ogres as well.

Why haven't they made those models a seperate box replacing the Older ones?

Because the Isle of Blood sprues aren’t set up for that - they have a mix of elves and Skaven on them.

Also I don't think GW wanted to invest/had the time/money to invest in them at this stage. Probably easier for them to keep skaven going with metals and then let that investment money get soaked up with other lines that are either new or for armies with smaller model ranges. Skaven are, esp now, quite a diverse and large range of models for an AoS army post AoS launch.

Certainly armies like Skaven and Seraphon managed to retain most of what makes them work .