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Seems like they should just re-release Spire of Dawn. It would be easier for both Skaven and Aelf players than Carrion, which could just be two clampack figures released alongside each army's new battletome rather than spending tons of money cutting new molds for stuff thats already currently being produced.

Spend all that mold money recutting ones for the Spire of Dawn Skaven and just release them as a boxed set.

That was a mistake, mixing the sprues on that set. I'm surprised they did that actually.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Endless spells for Khorne are dumb and lazy (yeah I know they are not officially spells, but they work and look like all the other spells, so they are spells)

Not a huge fan of the new skulltaker either.

Can you link me to where they said how they work?

Care to do a little wager that they'll work exactly like the other endless spells?

yeah, that's what I tought

 Future War Cultist wrote:
That was a mistake, mixing the sprues on that set. I'm surprised they did that actually.

All the starters are like it, so there must be a reason. Maximum sprue density to keep sprues down or something.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
That was a mistake, mixing the sprues on that set. I'm surprised they did that actually.

All the starters are like it, so there must be a reason. Maximum sprue density to keep sprues down or something.

Yeah, this. Even before they started digitally sculpting, the sprues were being designed by computed algorithms based on component shape. This is why the plastic Ogres have belly-holes (and therefore why gutplates exist); the spruify-er told them it was a no go with an actual belly and the sculpts weren’t digital so they couldn’t turn them into a shell and cut them up like the death cabbage.
Anyway, the starter sets are always one-off, push-fit sculpts with strict limits on box space and sprue numbers, so all the models that are gonna go in get chucked into the math and they are cast as they fit rather than in ‘factions’ or whatever.
Battle boxes like Tooth & Claw are literally just main-line production sprues in a bigger box so they follow a different set of rules.

 streetsamurai wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Endless spells for Khorne are dumb and lazy (yeah I know they are not officially spells, but they work and look like all the other spells, so they are spells)

Not a huge fan of the new skulltaker either.

Can you link me to where they said how they work?

Care to do a little wager that they'll work exactly like the other endless spells?

yeah, that's what I tought

They can't work like endless spells. Khorne doesn't have any Wizards to cast endless spells.

Of course, but I expect that it's some other characters that will be able to cast them, and that beside that, they'll work exactly like endless spells. Though I must say, I re-read the little blurb on WC, and they talk about blood spilt, so maybe theyll work like the blood token in the 7th edition 40k khorne book. If that's the case, it would be an acceptable compromise

They’ll probably be something you buy in game with Blood Tithe points.

With priests calling them into battle. I think they look really cool.

I am not on board with this take on priestly magic. It is an anathema to Khorne. These slaughterpriests (which by themselves are a fantastic idea) should operate something like unit-enhancing Ministorum Priests in 40K.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
They’ll probably be something you buy in game with Blood Tithe points.

Apparently they mentioned in the LVO panel that they wouldn't be tied to Blood Tithe.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
They’ll probably be something you buy in game with Blood Tithe points.

Apparently they mentioned in the LVO panel that they wouldn't be tied to Blood Tithe.

Presumably that whole system is getting an adjustment, but we really don't need a third thing tied to Blood Tithe so hopefully this is the case.

Khorne manifests his blessings and approval of bloodshed in different ways, having some of them be represented by physical models isn't some betrayal of the army theme.

I would love a unique army terrain piece, but wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen in this case.
Really, really hope that they unhitch the whole army from Bloodsecrators without also making them completely useless. Not sure if we should expect such a big shift to a profile though.

Slight delay on Warscroll cards/tokens for FEC. Later this week according to AoS FB page:

There's a slight delay on these being available in the US and Canada, Rupert. They'll be available to pre-order later in the week.

 Ghaz wrote:
The 'Grand Alliance' books were essentially the AoS version of the 40K Indexes. Basically when it says 'New Battletomes for every Grand Alliance' it means at least one faction from each Grand Alliance will receive their own Battletome.

While this is good to hear, Technically we might only see one more time..

Gitz for Desctruction
Khorne and Skaven for Chaos
FEC for Death

Pop an order tome out and they have fulfilled it.

I’d like to hope they mean four more, maybe starting with Khorne (but if not, fit that Slaanesh book in )

Anyone know why I can't find the new warscroll cards with any online retailer in the UK?

these are probably not what you mean but just in case this is useful

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warscroll-Cards-Skaven-2019-eng

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warscroll-Cards-Flesh-Eater-Courts-2019-eng

but I suspect they weren't convinced they'd actually arrive on time for next weekends release so the reps didn't offer them to stores when the put out this weeks preorders (on Wed), so in turn the stores didn't order any

If so they should be on next weeks list for the stores and become available next Saturday (although I'm not sure whether they'd ring fence some stock for distribution or not
so there is presumably a risk that GW will get enough direct pre-orders to sell out)

Danny76 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
The 'Grand Alliance' books were essentially the AoS version of the 40K Indexes. Basically when it says 'New Battletomes for every Grand Alliance' it means at least one faction from each Grand Alliance will receive their own Battletome.

While this is good to hear, Technically we might only see one more time..

Gitz for Desctruction
Khorne and Skaven for Chaos
FEC for Death

Pop an order tome out and they have fulfilled it.

I’d like to hope they mean four more, maybe starting with Khorne (but if not, fit that Slaanesh book in )

Yes they have three of the four Grand Alliances covered already, but with 40K releasing their last codex bar Sisters of Battle without going into new factions I would imagine we will see an uptick in the number of battletomes this year.

could the video about something ancient and terrible being awaken, refer to TK?

Likely Slaanesh returning.

Dinosaurs back from extinction?

Slann coming out of their space bubbles?

Kaiju awakening?

Just because it's ancient and terrible doesn't mean Sigmar himself is responsible for it...

Hell, maybe Dracothion will join the battle against chaos and send forth a bunch of dragon people to satiate my desire for reptilian humanoids.

since it's soul wars, I pictured it had to be between sigmar or nagash's forces (emphasizing more on death)

The vault doors slowly, inexorably swung open, as eldritch mist slowly unfolded in to the room.
Sigmar had hoped to never see this day, and knew it could be the final straw that broke his fragile alliance apart.
Nagash had forced his hand however. Such power...

Shadows appeared in the mist, and two small figures emerged carrying a small, steaming, cauldron between them.

"Who ordered the Hot Pot?"

 aracersss wrote:
since it's soul wars, I pictured it had to be between sigmar or nagash's forces (emphasizing more on death)

Isn’t Slaanesh a part of the Soul Wars thing, with all the Aelven souls s/he has?

It's an expansion, not an army.

It'll be a new batch of endless spells or something similar. Maybe generic monsters useable by anyone, or summonable terrain or something.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Seems like they should just re-release Spire of Dawn. It would be easier for both Skaven and Aelf players than Carrion, which could just be two clampack figures released alongside each army's new battletome rather than spending tons of money cutting new molds for stuff thats already currently being produced.

Spend all that mold money recutting ones for the Spire of Dawn Skaven and just release them as a boxed set.

I suspect that even if they wanted to, they cannot do this until they know what they are doing with High Elves. The aesthetic for Skaven is going nowhere, but the Aelves of Hysh...? Who knows. The Spire of Dawn Elves may not match where they wish to take the Aelf aesthetic.

Its not like AoS is short of things that are "ancient and terrible" anyway. So what's one more?

Return of the Chaos Dwarves?

 Haighus wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Seems like they should just re-release Spire of Dawn. It would be easier for both Skaven and Aelf players than Carrion, which could just be two clampack figures released alongside each army's new battletome rather than spending tons of money cutting new molds for stuff thats already currently being produced.

Spend all that mold money recutting ones for the Spire of Dawn Skaven and just release them as a boxed set.

I suspect that even if they wanted to, they cannot do this until they know what they are doing with High Elves.

They already re-released Spire of Dawn once.

Internally, I'm sure they already know what they're doing with the elves, and they've done fairly well with the elf factions so far, if customer reactions are anything to go by.

What they need to do is bring some confession to the table. Externally admit what's in, what's out, and what else is getting the boot. Officially admit what will be replaced in the various ranges and what old models won't be given a corner of a map some day.

 Ghaz wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
The 'Grand Alliance' books were essentially the AoS version of the 40K Indexes. Basically when it says 'New Battletomes for every Grand Alliance' it means at least one faction from each Grand Alliance will receive their own Battletome.

While this is good to hear, Technically we might only see one more time..

Gitz for Desctruction
Khorne and Skaven for Chaos
FEC for Death

Pop an order tome out and they have fulfilled it.

I’d like to hope they mean four more, maybe starting with Khorne (but if not, fit that Slaanesh book in )

Yes they have three of the four Grand Alliances covered already, but with 40K releasing their last codex bar Sisters of Battle without going into new factions I would imagine we will see an uptick in the number of battletomes this year.

At the preview I got the impression they meant there would be -more- battletomes for each alliance. As in each alliance will be getting at least one new battletome not including what's already been released. So if we assume Khorne counts for Chaos that still leaves the other three. Sylvaneth was all but confirmed, so that's Order checked off, and the rumor of a Sylvaneth tome also said a KO one was coming (and this rumor pre-dates the preview). So what's up in the air is Destruction and Death. I'm betting an Orruk battletome combining Ironjawz and Greenskinz (Bonesplittaz left seperately).


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 streetsamurai wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Endless spells for Khorne are dumb and lazy (yeah I know they are not officially spells, but they work and look like all the other spells, so they are spells)

Not a huge fan of the new skulltaker either.

Can you link me to where they said how they work?

Care to do a little wager that they'll work exactly like the other endless spells?

yeah, that's what I tought

So you don't know then.

Indeed, Destruction and death are realistically the unknowns.
Potentially:
Sylvaneth and Kharadron.
Khorne And Slaanesh.

I’d like to think that Destruction is the Ogres, as the picture shows them and the Gobbos.
But probably not..


Also Ghaz, Though GSC is one of the last for 40k, there is rumours of a new Marine one, I guess possibly Black Legion or just a new Chaos one. And presumably during the Slaanesh related for the EC.