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 Galas wrote:
I don't understand something. Carrion Empire had 1 hero and 3 boxes per faction.
This one has 1 hero and 3 boxes per the sylvaneth half but 1 hero and two boxes for the goblins.

I would say I expect it to be cheaper than carrion empire but I doubt it. They'll make you pay a premium for the goblin half for being new models.

The boxes on the goblin side are high-quantity; their half has the highest model count of any AoS starter afaik. It is also about having two approximately equal forces.

Sylvaneth hate wanderers, they think they are traitors and cowards, so I doubt it. But GW could make a retcon and change the background, of course.

It isn't so much of a hatred as more of a former friends but one abandoned the other in a time of need. There is resentment and anger there, but the factors that made them great friends before are still there.

Come to think of it that dynamic could make for the basis of an excellent novel

I like the concept of the Arch Revenant, but he looks somewhat squat. Would have preferred him to be a bit taller, but that's a minor nitpick.

The Loonboss is amazing, but the Squig has a very daemonic look. Again, minor nitpick, but squigs should look more whacky than that.

I don't know if Squat is quite the right word, seeing as it's quite tall, but I see what you're saying. I think the shield arm would have been better posed down at the side. Still really like it, and that Wild Rider esque helm.

 Gael Knight wrote:
I don't know if Squat is quite the right word, seeing as it's quite tall, but I see what you're saying. I think the shield arm would have been better posed down at the side. Still really like it, and that Wild Rider esque helm.

Yeah, the helm, weapon and wings are the standout parts to me. Worst case, you could make a great kitbash from them.

 Alpharius wrote:
Very nice!

I’m definitely in for the Gloomspite part of the box, anyone want to split one with me and take the tree stuff?

I'm tempted, though it depends on shipping.

I really like the hero revenant, she looks very impressive.

Really looking forward to the new Loonboss. Unfortunately I doubt he'll have any head options (for the Loonboss or the squig)

Sotahullu wrote:
Actually, would it make sense that Wanderers would be rolled into new Sylvaneth book?

If they didn't do Darkling Covens with Daughters of Khaine, I really doubt they'll do Wanderers here.

The goals for the two factions are different at this point. Wanderers are trying to reestablish the, effectively, network of ley-lines that crossed all of the Realms before.
Sylvaneth are trying to establish a 'natural order' across the Realms from the looks of things.

The only crossover right now seems to be that the Wanderers establishing ley-lines in Ghyran is helping the forests grow back there and elsewhere.

I wish they would make a Ghyarn order battle tome. Sylvanneth, wanderers, and probably mandatory stormcast vanguard would be a great looking army. And besides, I don't think we'll ever really get new wanderers, just like how dispossessed probably won't get new models, besides an occasional hero or something.

 BertBert wrote:
I like the concept of the Arch Revenant, but he looks somewhat squat. Would have preferred him to be a bit taller, but that's a minor nitpick.

The Loonboss is amazing, but the Squig has a very daemonic look. Again, minor nitpick, but squigs should look more whacky than that.

If it was taller, I’d be converting for a C’tan in 40k..

GaroRobe wrote:
I wish they would make a Ghyarn order battle tome. Sylvanneth, wanderers, and probably mandatory stormcast vanguard would be a great looking army. And besides, I don't think we'll ever really get new wanderers, just like how dispossessed probably won't get new models, besides an occasional hero or something.

That would be a generic Order army using the Living City rules and taking artifacts from the realm of life list

Hmm...

Terrain is interesting, but so far quite static. Will have to see what sort of configurations are possible beyond "stairs leading to pillars" and "stairs leading to griffhound statues".

Looncurse? On one hand, the boss on Giant Squig is great. On the otherhand, the Sylvaneth mini is just too busy for my liking. On the other, other hand this means bits sites will have some cheap Squigs/Squig Riders on sale soon. Might get some of those.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm...

Terrain is interesting, but so far quite static. Will have to see what sort of configurations are possible beyond "stairs leading to pillars" and "stairs leading to griffhound statues".

Looncurse? On one hand, the boss on Giant Squig is great. On the otherhand, the Sylvaneth mini is just too busy for my liking. On the other, other hand this means bits sites will have some cheap Squigs/Squig Riders on sale soon. Might get some of those.

The possibilities for converting a cool sylvaneth hero just got great! If you dont like the new hero -good for you, you can finally use all those bits and twigs left over to make a hero you can actually use. Just think what you could do with the Ynnari avatar and some branches.

Here's the sprues for the heroes.


My favorite part...

Bug Backpack!

That's a rumour engine cleared up, too.

Damn, I didn't even notice at first--the Loonking has two weapon options!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Damn, I didn't even notice at first--the Loonking has two weapon options!

I can't quite tell if the Loonboss has a head option as well.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Damn, I didn't even notice at first--the Loonking has two weapon options!

I can't quite tell if the Loonboss has a head option as well.

There is!

One head is separate with no irongob, the other is the irongob with head sculpted into it.

Never mind, it looks like the irongob is one piece while the head slots into it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Damn, I didn't even notice at first--the Loonking has two weapon options!

The loonboss is not a new option but rather an updated model for the current one, so the same options.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Damn, I didn't even notice at first--the Loonking has two weapon options!

The loonboss is not a new option but rather an updated model for the current one, so the same options.

I understand this, however we don't always get weapon options in the plastic kits.

I mean really, it's just as likely we would lose an option as get it at this point!

Early sprue pictures? I love it.

Bug backpack is cool but Moon Spider is cooler.

A shame goodies like that don't make their way into upgrade sprues for fantasy models.

I'd love a sprue of bug backpacks that I didn't have to break the bank to get a hold of.

Two rumor engine pics actually.

The pincer tail and the wings. Both are fairly recent rumors.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Damn, I didn't even notice at first--the Loonking has two weapon options!

The loonboss is not a new option but rather an updated model for the current one, so the same options.

I understand this, however we don't always get weapon options in the plastic kits.

I mean really, it's just as likely we would lose an option as get it at this point!

Ah, I misunderstood. It is good they did that, though it feels like thanking them for doing something that should be expected

Anyone seen any prices yet?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Anyone seen any prices yet?

I’d assume $150 in line with other sets this size.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks fairly, I want to say modular, but I’m not sure that’s the right word.

Gryph Hound statues are shown in multiple positions. So the Temple bits and bobs are at least stackable? Again, struggling for the right term this time. But hopefully you get what I’m driving at.

My WD with the new terrain pics in arrived today and I think modular is the right word for it, especially for the larger set with the half circle section. They seem to be a fairly substantial size as well, even the smaller of the two platforms is big enough to fit a Magmadroth and a Cauldron of blood on it at the same time.

I wonder how stackable the kits are? A multi level stepped pyramid/temple would make a nice tabletop centrepiece.

Looks like War of Sigmar has a few more pics of the new terrain:

Oh man Stop! So much Terrain...I can't afford it all! And I have no place for it!

That collection of rubble will be real useful for making area terrain. Not big on the curved one, just not my style. That first one I'll certainly be getting, like it a lot. Especially the size. It's easy to make small terrain pieces from extra stuff or scratch.