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 DaveC wrote:

Are the Mawtribes the name of the combined ogre armies? Beastclaws/Oghurr Tribes/Firebellys

The Great Mawpot must be their new scenery kit?

 Overread wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/lords-of-the-ossiarch-bonereapers-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

New Reaper article

Liege-Kavaloi are mounted generals, which are a generic leader unit (take as many as you want up to the leader limit).

However of them there's a hero Arch-Kavalos Zandtos who is the mighty guy we saw in the hazy leak photos





The article also confirms that both those leader options are built from the same kit. For me this is fantastic as I really liked that mounted lord so to have one not just as a hero, but also having a generic option is great!

There is also specific mention that "Nagash, Arkhan the Black and Morghasts can all be included in an Ossirarch Bonereapers force" at the end of the article. It doesn't mention in what capacity, but it confirms what we've seen in the leak photos, plus also suggests taht Arkhan is the only mortarch present.

...bone nose.

Makes sense too - remember Ossiarchs are built and sculpted from bone (and likely other stuff). When you consider their overall shape and the structure its clear that, whilst they might use bones in the middle of battle for replacement/emergency troops (we don't yet fully know). They otherwise sculpt their bodies from bone. It likely means that at some point they have to render down bone and then reform it. So they can have noses.

They can also have multiple bones of the right length to form a leg. Look at the mounts hind leg and you can see at least 5 or 6 bones making up the lower part of the leg. Now trying to find several people of the same size to make those bones fit together like that would be a nightmare. Better to render down a load of bone, reshape it and build up a boney design

I love these models. Especially the spirit hosts hanging around them. Gives a very nice unifying theme for the whole death faction.

 Overread wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/lords-of-the-ossiarch-bonereapers-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

New Reaper article

Liege-Kavaloi are mounted generals, which are a generic leader unit (take as many as you want up to the leader limit).

However of them there's a hero Arch-Kavalos Zandtos who is the mighty guy we saw in the hazy leak photos





The article also confirms that both those leader options are built from the same kit. For me this is fantastic as I really liked that mounted lord so to have one not just as a hero, but also having a generic option is great!

There is also specific mention that "Nagash, Arkhan the Black and Morghasts can all be included in an Ossirarch Bonereapers force" at the end of the article. It doesn't mention in what capacity, but it confirms what we've seen in the leak photos, plus also suggests taht Arkhan is the only mortarch present.

Looks like a garish, ugly version of Napoleon Bonaparte.
It needs a mask to cover that stupid grin, and a helmet and shield that's not stupid.

Look like they were made to mimic Stormcast mounted heroes or build upon those unit's base.

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/lords-of-the-ossiarch-bonereapers-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

Spoiler:

Slightly better than Napoleon Bone-apart (I bet that's what the internal name for that model is. You can just imagine GW's design team going "what if we made Bonaparte into a skeleton? Because his name is BONE-aparte, get it?), but still needs to drop the dumb hat.

I finally realized what the helmet makes me think of. Gen1 Megatron.
That being said, I do really like the whole line, including this kit.

Interesting observations:

1) The bit in the beasts mouth for both mounts is in an odd place. It's nestled right at the back where the jawbone hinges rather than, at least on the regular lord, where it should be which is in front of the molars and behind the front teeth. Of course the hero mount hasn't got a gap and instead has a whole mouth of teeth. However its another sign that these are not simply dead animals brought to life but resculpted bone.

2) The fact that the mount has a bit and reins suggests that its not a machine in mind. That it likely has a wildness to it that is partly untamed. This presents an interesting concept as the Bonereapers could be much like the Machines from the Matrix film. United yet at the same time possessed of their own independence.

It also makes one wonder about things like the part living catapult and other war engines. What happens if your catapult has a bad day and refuses to behave?

It also opens up the potential for considering Reapers who might not want to be warriors; what happens if one is formed who wants to be a poet?
Of course we can't know for sure until we get the book, but it leaves the door open for personalities, settlements, independent characters, unique viewpoints and more and that's before we even touch on the potential madness of ahving multiple souls in the same body or, in the case of the elite warriors with 4 heads, disagreements within the same body.

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/lords-of-the-ossiarch-bonereapers-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

Spoiler:

This must be peak tactical rockage in WH. I wonder why they stopped at 3, they should have gone for all 4 Or does he make rocks grow where he steps to not sully hooves of his pony with dirty soil or something?

 Irbis wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/lords-of-the-ossiarch-bonereapers-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

Spoiler:

This must be peak tactical rockage in WH. I wonder why they stopped at 3, they should have gone for all 4 Or does he make rocks grow where he steps to not sully hooves of his pony with dirty soil or something?

He likes to be tall.

 Irbis wrote:
This must be peak tactical rockage in WH. I wonder why they stopped at 3, they should have gone for all 4 Or does he make rocks grow where he steps to not sully hooves of his pony with dirty soil or something?

Proof once again of GW's mastery of odd photo angles If you check the other build, the largest of the three rocks is a separate part and is not connected to the mounts right foreleg. So its only stood on two tactical rocks

 Overread wrote:

It also opens up the potential for considering Reapers who might not want to be warriors; what happens if one is formed who wants to be a poet?
Of course we can't know for sure until we get the book, but it leaves the door open for personalities, settlements, independent characters, unique viewpoints and more and that's before we even touch on the potential madness of ahving multiple souls in the same body or, in the case of the elite warriors with 4 heads, disagreements within the same body.

I doubt Nagash would let such a flawed product out of his micromanaging grasp.

Why is it standing on rocks at all?

Horses generally try to avoid doing that - especially with so much nice flat ground...close by?

What a weird stylistic choice.

 Alpharius wrote:
Why is it standing on rocks at all?

Horses generally try to avoid doing that - especially with so much nice flat ground...close by?

What a weird stylistic choice.

It's probably playing to the mongolian steppes style of terrain. So the designers thought was that the base would be littered in rocks rather than open grassland. It might also be a result of the pose originally being made for the claw footed version and then the hoofed version required a bit more height (notice how the longest hind leg isn't standing on a stone) to retain the same posture and pose in the leg positions. So a stone was added for something for it to be standing on.

Still doesn't look right though. I actually thought one of the rocks were its hooves, and horses still wouldn't do that as its a little uncomfortable.

Granted, its an undead horse, but it still looks odd.

That does just look bad. I'd consider just always using the special character mount even for the generic character, but that one has the problem that the cloth hanging down from the sides isn't hanging properly at all for the mount being at that angle.

A horse wouldn't have those big tusks either. The rocks were probably a compromise to make the dual kit work.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Still doesn't look right though. I actually thought one of the rocks were its hooves, and horses still wouldn't do that as its a little uncomfortable.

Granted, its an undead horse, but it still looks odd.

It's not even "an undead horse".

It's a construct made in the vague shape of a horse. For all we know, the actual spirit animating it is a goat.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Still doesn't look right though. I actually thought one of the rocks were its hooves, and horses still wouldn't do that as its a little uncomfortable.

Granted, its an undead horse, but it still looks odd.

It's not even "an undead horse".

It's a construct made in the vague shape of a horse. For all we know, the actual spirit animating it is a goat.

Whenever I come to post something today, someone else already said it...

But my suggestion would have been soul confusion. The leg on the ground is powered by the soul of a horse. The ones on rocks, by mountain goats.

I don't care if they write a whole page in the army book explaining why they love to stand on rocks. Doesn't make it look any less dumb.

I got it. They mounts are composed of many souls, just like the humanoid constructs. Each of those legs is currently being controlled by the soul of a creature who thinks the ground is lava, so they won't go anywhere unless those two particular legs can be standing on a convenient rock.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I don't care if they write a whole page in the army book explaining why they love to stand on rocks. Doesn't make it look any less dumb.

I got it. They mounts are composed of many souls, just like the humanoid constructs. Each of those legs is currently being controlled by the soul of a creature who thinks the ground is lava, so they won't go anywhere unless those two particular legs can be standing on a convenient rock.

THIS!
Fluff can't trump aesthetics and design.

It is actually pretty boring that they went with horsish things for their mounts rather than giant spider constructs or something truly alien looking not seen very often as a mount.

But imo the bone clowns are basically just an army size construct of fail powered by the soul of bad design, so hopefully the people that like em like the tactical rock horsegoat soul mounts.

 Overread wrote:
Interesting observations:

1) The bit in the beasts mouth for both mounts is in an odd place. It's nestled right at the back where the jawbone hinges rather than, at least on the regular lord, where it should be which is in front of the molars and behind the front teeth. Of course the hero mount hasn't got a gap and instead has a whole mouth of teeth. However its another sign that these are not simply dead animals brought to life but resculpted bone.

2) The fact that the mount has a bit and reins suggests that its not a machine in mind. That it likely has a wildness to it that is partly untamed. This presents an interesting concept as the Bonereapers could be much like the Machines from the Matrix film. United yet at the same time possessed of their own independence.

It also makes one wonder about things like the part living catapult and other war engines. What happens if your catapult has a bad day and refuses to behave?

It also opens up the potential for considering Reapers who might not want to be warriors; what happens if one is formed who wants to be a poet?
Of course we can't know for sure until we get the book, but it leaves the door open for personalities, settlements, independent characters, unique viewpoints and more and that's before we even touch on the potential madness of ahving multiple souls in the same body or, in the case of the elite warriors with 4 heads, disagreements within the same body.

The descriptions tell us that there are multiple souls in each construct and they have been chosen for the job, so pretty sure poet soul would not be stuck into one of these things. The reigns also could serve simply as a means of directing the mount without needing to shout at it over the din of battle.

 AduroT wrote:

 Overread wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/07/lords-of-the-ossiarch-bonereapers-revealedgw-homepage-post-2/

New Reaper article

Liege-Kavaloi are mounted generals, which are a generic leader unit (take as many as you want up to the leader limit).

However of them there's a hero Arch-Kavalos Zandtos who is the mighty guy we saw in the hazy leak photos





The article also confirms that both those leader options are built from the same kit. For me this is fantastic as I really liked that mounted lord so to have one not just as a hero, but also having a generic option is great!

There is also specific mention that "Nagash, Arkhan the Black and Morghasts can all be included in an Ossirarch Bonereapers force" at the end of the article. It doesn't mention in what capacity, but it confirms what we've seen in the leak photos, plus also suggests taht Arkhan is the only mortarch present.

...bone nose.

anyone know what colors are used painting that grey/dirty white bone color? love that

Looks a lot like they tried REALLY hard to channel 1980's kids Saturday morning cartoons..

I (personally) think they look silly and over-the-top in a not pleasant way..

 porkuslime wrote:
Looks a lot like they tried REALLY hard to channel 1980's kids Saturday morning cartoons..

I (personally) think they look silly and over-the-top in a not pleasant way..

Yeah, they need to drop the stupid hats and give them face masks or something. Or just give them no face at all. Like a big old faceless legion of death.
Like, I get that they were trying to go for the centurion look with the helmets, but real centurion helmets looked more sensible than that.

Looks a lot like they tried REALLY hard to channel 1980's kids Saturday morning cartoons..

You make it sound like a bad thing?

 porkuslime wrote:
Looks a lot like they tried REALLY hard to channel 1980's kids Saturday morning cartoons..

I (personally) think they look silly and over-the-top in a not pleasant way..

There's also just so much extraneous detail. I mean, look at those little bone spurs dangling off the bottom of the shield. What are those about? Entirely non-functional, not particularly special or decorative; just clutter.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 porkuslime wrote:
Looks a lot like they tried REALLY hard to channel 1980's kids Saturday morning cartoons..

I (personally) think they look silly and over-the-top in a not pleasant way..

There's also just so much extraneous detail. I mean, look at those little bone spurs dangling off the bottom of the shield. What are those about? Entirely non-functional, not particularly special or decorative; just clutter.

Eh most units in the game have clutter.

Marines have seals and badges, heck some have reels of parchment and such on them. A good few eldar have bangles and such. Being a Heroic style fantasy/sci-fi setting there's bangles and bling and decoration on most stuff.


In the end I think its important to realise that the style choice of adding "featured detail" isn't a bad concept because its done in most of the armies. Instead its more a case that its a type of decoration you're not happy with.



That said there's some interesting bits, one of the cavalry horses appears to have a hand or parts of a hand dangling down from its chest plate (hard to tell from the photo's we've got). Plus some details like that are super easy to either not attach in the first place or to clip off and smooth over the contact area during assembly.
I think part of the idea is that the Reapers, being magical dead constructs, are not bound by form as much as other living creatures (that aren't warped by chaos) are. So there's a bit of room for some mutation and such going on.
Other times they might be emulating rare or exotic authentic historical weapons that might just not be your standard "hollywood European medieval" affair. There's more than a few times I've read people bashing certain design choices only to later discover that the design is actually based of historical record; just more niche than the person originally realised.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 porkuslime wrote:
Looks a lot like they tried REALLY hard to channel 1980's kids Saturday morning cartoons..

I (personally) think they look silly and over-the-top in a not pleasant way..

Yeah, they need to drop the stupid hats and give them face masks or something. Or just give them no face at all. Like a big old faceless legion of death.
Like, I get that they were trying to go for the centurion look with the helmets, but real centurion helmets looked more sensible than that.

Less centurion, more like this:


Sensible, you say?