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Give me a second, I was in AWE with that new technical paint and I took a picture from a test model. The designer I was talking with explained they were developed to help painting the new army.

Here ya go:


That was done with 1 layer. 1! Freakin'! Layer! It's almost like a shade and glaze combined.

I'm completely in awe with this new paint. Unfortunately, he had no idea when it will be released :(

So, look at the video teaser for the new Nighthaunt. Then, look at the black coach and the spirits at the back. They are clearly servants. One of them is carrying a book and the other is carrying, important - not wielding, a sheathed sword. They must be clearly holding onto these for the inhabitant of the coach, the vampire (judging by the coffin).

The fact that these servants (for lack of a better word) are carrying an arcane book and sword for a recovering vampire into battle for me only means one thing.

The vampire in the black coach can awaken mid game and be let loose.


I REALLY hope I'm right, because that would be the most amazingly epic thing ever, IMO at least.

Love that Aren. Fits with how it worked originally too somewhat. With Morathi as a precedent I am hoping there will be more mid game Transform/summons etc.

Aren73 wrote:
So, look at the video teaser for the new Nighthaunt. Then, look at the black coach and the spirits at the back. They are clearly servants. One of them is carrying a book and the other is carrying, important - not wielding, a sheathed sword. They must be clearly holding onto these for the inhabitant of the coach, the vampire (judging by the coffin).

The fact that these servants (for lack of a better word) are carrying an arcane book and sword for a recovering vampire into battle for me only means one thing.

The vampire in the black coach can awaken mid game and be let loose.


I REALLY hope I'm right, because that would be the most amazingly epic thing ever, IMO at least.

There was also the silhouette between the trees, I would assume that to be the vampire.

 Imateria wrote:

Aren73 wrote:
So, look at the video teaser for the new Nighthaunt. Then, look at the black coach and the spirits at the back. They are clearly servants. One of them is carrying a book and the other is carrying, important - not wielding, a sheathed sword. They must be clearly holding onto these for the inhabitant of the coach, the vampire (judging by the coffin).

The fact that these servants (for lack of a better word) are carrying an arcane book and sword for a recovering vampire into battle for me only means one thing.

The vampire in the black coach can awaken mid game and be let loose.


I REALLY hope I'm right, because that would be the most amazingly epic thing ever, IMO at least.

There was also the silhouette between the trees, I would assume that to be the vampire.

I'd love that. And yes already anticipating backlash of "we don't want vampires in our ghost army" but it could well be a ghostly vampire - Vampires back in fantasy could take wraith/ethereal form. But yes, the model looks big and imposing, hopefully a vampire lord, awakened, ready to slaughter!

 Imateria wrote:

Aren73 wrote:
So, look at the video teaser for the new Nighthaunt. Then, look at the black coach and the spirits at the back. They are clearly servants. One of them is carrying a book and the other is carrying, important - not wielding, a sheathed sword. They must be clearly holding onto these for the inhabitant of the coach, the vampire (judging by the coffin).

The fact that these servants (for lack of a better word) are carrying an arcane book and sword for a recovering vampire into battle for me only means one thing.

The vampire in the black coach can awaken mid game and be let loose.


I REALLY hope I'm right, because that would be the most amazingly epic thing ever, IMO at least.

There was also the silhouette between the trees, I would assume that to be the vampire.

That’s the Mortarch of Grief, I don’t think it’s the vampire from the black coach.

EXCUSE ME? Mortrarch of Greif, wait what?

Well I completely missed that...geez new mortrarch. Do we know who it is or unknown yet? Not Isabella right?

If not someone brand new, then hopefully Isabella. Grief would fit well with Vlad's permenant death during the End Times and it would be quite an amusing middle finger to Nurgle from Nagash if he managed to get her soul back from him.

I'm leaning towards one of the two Elfmaidens that were part of the End Times and Mannfred's nonsense.

It would be a big ol' middle finger to Tyrion and Teclis if it was Tyrion's daughter, the one that Teclis let die.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Oooh more technical paints

wonder how different the nighthaunt gloom will be from Nihlak Oxide which has been what I used to do spooky ghosts with?

Nihilakh Oxide has a grit/texture to it IIRC; this looks totally smooth.

This is just all fantastic. I'm sure those new paints will make those magical effects a breeze to paint too! I hope they come in more colors beyond green and blue!

I'm so pumped for this. I can't wait to get the rules and see how it effects all the different armies out there! I'm hoping for a shake-up of the meta, something that gets people out of the rut of taking 1 or 2 netlists... I know, I know, it's a lot to hope for, but I'm excited!

So what are we looking at for the new nighthaunts?

A horde unit of ghost boys
Hangman axe spook
The boy that smacks you with locks on chains
Skaven ghosts
Wraith unit
Banshee unit
Keldrek on horse
Ghostly riders
Lantern boy
Black Coach boy
The faceless one with spikey weights on chains
The unit with their faces covered by cloths
The axe boy who casts spirit heads
That dude with a massive hourglass
The mortrarch of being unseen in the background

Anything else?

The ghost stuff looks good, will be adding some to my WHFB undead army as counts as. Especially the undead skaven looking ones.

Aren73 wrote:
So what are we looking at for the new nighthaunts?

A horde unit of ghost boys
Hangman axe spook
The boy that smacks you with locks on chains
Skaven ghosts
Wraith unit
Banshee unit
Keldrek on horse
Ghostly riders
Lantern boy
Black Coach boy
The faceless one with spikey weights on chains
The unit with their faces covered by cloths
The axe boy who casts spirit heads
That dude with a massive hourglass
The mortrarch of being unseen in the background

Anything else?

Yeah there are the strange female ghosts with flowing hair with roses in and seemingly scythes for arms?From the teaser -they may be flying..

It's difficult to tell in places what is a separate character verses a special weapon/unit champion or character with alternate posing/sculpts. The two dudes on horses look an awful lot like a mounted Knight of Shrouds with two options on how to build it, for example. Not that it's by any means a bad thing.

The mounts are different though. Might be a generic HQ option, might be a cavalry unit.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
The mounts are different though. Might be a generic HQ option, might be a cavalry unit.

I'm looking at them more as being like the Putrid Blightlords, where there's two models that can be built as a unit or an HQ and a generic trooper.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's difficult to tell in places what is a separate character verses a special weapon/unit champion or character with alternate posing/sculpts. The two dudes on horses look an awful lot like a mounted Knight of Shrouds with two options on how to build it, for example. Not that it's by any means a bad thing.

The bases on those and the banshees are really built up. Same goes for the stormcast xbow guys and bolt thrower. I think they are shadespire warbands and season 2 will see rules for non infantry units.

Hm that's a good observation.

JSG wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It's difficult to tell in places what is a separate character verses a special weapon/unit champion or character with alternate posing/sculpts. The two dudes on horses look an awful lot like a mounted Knight of Shrouds with two options on how to build it, for example. Not that it's by any means a bad thing.

The bases on those and the banshees are really built up. Same goes for the stormcast xbow guys and bolt thrower. I think they are shadespire warbands and season 2 will see rules for non infantry units.

I was thinking if any of them are meant for Shadespire or not. I think you might be right.

More Stormcast with a crossbow type thing! Wow! That must be a fething record for the most kits of the same basic idea!

From the essential guide:
"They’ve done a great job creating what we think is the tightest ruleset Warhammer Age of Sigmar has ever had... "
Considering it's the second edition, that would be the minimum expected of you, GW.

"Warhammer Age of Sigmar has the best competitive rules for the game so far,..."
No gak, a marginal improvement would technically achieve that. Not holding my breath for a GW game with respectable balance.

Backwards compatibility means we'll still have flat to wound stat (the thing I hate the most about AoS), there are things to sort out beyond that though. Sounds like they are adding more layers of complication. Command points being added in is not particularly good news.

How about we break the usual cycle and actually wait and see the new rules and play a few games before passing judgement? You know, just for a change?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
How about we break the usual cycle and actually wait and see the new rules and play a few games before passing judgement? You know, just for a change?

It'd be nice, but I'm not holding my breath

I like the new technical paints. I have 3 Spirit Hosts I've yet to build, and a paint like that makes things much easier.

I actually think it will be quite positive.

Expanded magic rules? Yes please
No shooting out of combat - should have been there from the start
Some form of command points/abilities - depends how it's implemented, but could add a bit more depth
Some form of change to the double turn - yep, please do something to it, maybe not take it out completely but somehow minimise the negative effect on the player that loses out

I think it sounds promising. Personally I hope they add in more interaction with terrain now too but I am quite hopeful that the new edition will improve on the previous one.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I like the new technical paints. I have 3 Spirit Hosts I've yet to build, and a paint like that makes things much easier.

Agreed. Big magic straight from the pot is something you can never have enough of. I may just have a use for both of them.

I don't think that the "skaven ghosts" are such. Their skulls look more like horse skulls.

While I do agree there is something horse like about the skaven ghost skulls they also have hands with fingers, which is decidedly not horse like

They might not be skaven but their own thing, absolutely, it's their backs, pose and weapons that are reminiscient of skaven but I don't think it makes sense that hordes of nobodies which is what skaven are, become undead elite troops, judging by unit size, upon death.

We'll have to wait and see. While I hope for more info today I doubt we'll get much more.