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Here's something: I've worked out why the new Nighthaunt look so good compared to the Legions of Nagash - they all have nice coherent colours, blacks shifting to greens or blues whereas LoN have a cacophony of colours (plenty of reds, bone, greens, purples, blues, blacks...everything really).

I think they'll look great as an army.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

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Who is the mounted character in the top left with ghosts around the claws?

Thats Neferata.

Neferata I think/

Oh I get it, its an army of ghosts. That's pretty cool.
How does the ethereal rule work in sigmar? Is it still immune to non-magical attacks?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, its an army of ghosts. That's pretty cool.
How does the ethereal rule work in sigmar? Is it still immune to non-magical attacks?

Used to be 4+ save that cannot be modified, unless they changed it.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, its an army of ghosts. That's pretty cool.
How does the ethereal rule work in sigmar? Is it still immune to non-magical attacks?

We don't have magical vs non-magical attacks anymore.

The most recent change to the 'Ethereal' rule is that your save cannot be modified, positively or negatively.
So attacks that lower your save via Rend are less effective(a huge deal for heroes) and spells/cover don't help you either.

So its a ward save now? That's handy.

Well it doesn't work against mortal wounds. But they get a 6+ ward save from allegiance that does.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So its a ward save now? That's handy.

No, it's an ability present on the warscroll.

The exact wording is:

Ethereal wrote:Ignore modifiers(positive or negative) when making save rolls for this model.

Everything Nighthaunt that I can readily look at in the app has a 4+ save as its profile though.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So its a ward save now? That's handy.

You are thinking 8th edition. There is no such thing in AoS; saves are saves and Nighthaunt units typically have a special rule that says their saves cannot be modified. They can be bypassed though, such as by Mortal Wounds.

So a closer analogue would be 40k invul then?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So a closer analogue would be 40k invul then?

No. Don't think of Ethereal as a save, don't think of it as anything other than a special rule that modifies the unit that Ethereal is on.

Look at, for example, the Cairn Wraith. It has a 4+ save, okay?
It has under its abilities: "Ethereal".

Because of the Ethereal rule, if your Cairn Wraith was in Cover(+1 to its Armor Save)? It would still have a 4+ save rather than the 3+ save a unit without Ethereal would have.
Because of the Ethereal rule, if your Cairn Wraith was attacked by something that had a Rend of -1? You would have a 4+ save rather than the 5+ save that you would have without Ethereal.

Does this make sense?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So a closer analogue would be 40k invul then?

Yeah. And as NinthMusketeer said with the ability to get a 6+ FNP as chapter trait.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So a closer analogue would be 40k invul then?

No. Don't think of Ethereal as a save, don't think of it as anything other than a special rule that modifies the unit that Ethereal is on.

Look at, for example, the Cairn Wraith. It has a 4+ save, okay?
It has under its abilities: "Ethereal".

Because of the Ethereal rule, if your Cairn Wraith was in Cover(+1 to its Armor Save)? It would still have a 4+ save rather than the 3+ save a unit without Ethereal would have.
Because of the Ethereal rule, if your Cairn Wraith was attacked by something that had a Rend of -1? You would have a 4+ save rather than the 5+ save that you would have without Ethereal.

Does this make sense?

Yes, I understood how it works. Mechanically an invul works in the same way, as its a save that's not modified by things that would mod an armor save, yet still cannot block mortal wounds. Hence analogue.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/14/14th-may-faction-focus-nighthauntgw-homepage-post-3/


Faction focus nighthunts

Nice new design for the warscrolls, and those new nighthaunts sound pretty deadly.

The lore behind the new units sounds quite awesome... I might have to give them a nice torough look once I'm finished with my Daughters of Khaine and Kharadrons Overlords...

Quite hyped by these new releases!

I really like that the Spirit Torment gets a bonus for killing Stormcast.

 Adam Spielmann wrote:
The lore behind the new units sounds quite awesome...

Strong Dante influence in Nagash's recruitment of the dead, I dig it

Very much want to hear how the 2.0 rules shape up. Got a cart full of Daughters waiting should the double turn nonsense finally end ...

- Salvage

 Boss Salvage wrote:

 Adam Spielmann wrote:
The lore behind the new units sounds quite awesome...

Strong Dante influence in Nagash's recruitment of the dead, I dig it

Very much want to hear how the 2.0 rules shape up. Got a cart full of Daughters waiting should the double turn nonsense finally end ...

- Salvage

It won't end. It'll become - drum roll - STRATEGIC!

I'm wondering if Command Points are going to be 'bid' at the start of each game round and that's how you can make the double turns a bit more strategic?

Anyone else thinking they may end up being like might points from the LotR sbg? So you can use a point (after a success roll) to act out of sequence? I.e. if your opponent charges, you can spend a point to activate a counter charge.

I'm not up to date on AOS tules. Does you have to pay with reserve points when you return a model to life usingthe spirit ability?


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Heads are not in the same position, weapons are held at different angles, some even have a completery different pose. Not comparable at all to these new SC models

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Anyone else thinking they may end up being like might points from the LotR sbg? So you can use a point (after a success roll) to act out of sequence? I.e. if your opponent charges, you can spend a point to activate a counter charge.

Don't know how I feel about this. Some units that are already pointed quite heavily(IMO) get these abilities and are pointed to match. Gryph-Hounds for example are ridiculously pricey for just their Warning Cry and the ability to leave a combat after they make their attacks.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm wondering if Command Points are going to be 'bid' at the start of each game round and that's how you can make the double turns a bit more strategic?

I could see them letting you spend a command point to buff your die roll by one before rolling.

Or I could also see them making you spend a CP just to make the roll happen.

... Or maybe let both players bid CP after the roll to buff the roll infinitely.

I'm starting to think auras are going to change to "completely within" to limit daisy chaining hordes back to heroes.

Seems like many recent abilities in the last few books are worded that way.

https://ageofsigmar.com



Bloodbound with shields, Chaos knights, new Darkaoth, mixed Stormcast Chambers..... And new Freeguild (in brown, round helmets, facing the chaos knight mid-left of the artwork) ???

That stormcast's hair is amazing.

You sure there are Darkoath in there, Horticulus? I can only see Khornate blood nutters.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
That stormcast's hair is amazing.

Would you look at that. Sigmar saved Balin's soul from Moria.

that's my new wallpaper <3