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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/20/20th-may-faction-focus-maggotkin-of-nurglegw-homepage-post-3/#utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=AOSNurgleFocusMay20

Battletome: Maggotkin of Nurgle was designed to work with the new edition (it’s even got the new logo on the cover!) and you’ll find the new rules bring a lot of benefits to a Nurgle army – from Look Out, Sir!, to command points, to some exciting (and major) changes we haven’t even looked at yet…


Look out sir! is coming. I doubt this will put an end to character sniping per say, but will hamper it.

Wow. Many character abilities in AoS are extremely powerful, so they can't be as protected as they are in 40k. Perhaps avoid a hit on a 3+?

You can talk all you like about balance pros and cons, but I know from a fluffier perspective I found the horrendously poor survivability of non-monster characters very offputting on the occasions I tried AoS. Generals and other officers shouldn’t be deleted in the opening volleys of a game very often.

This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

During the last Warhammer Fest a saw pictures of new AoS scenery, but I can't find the pictures. Does someone got an link for me?

Next week’s preorder is an odd one.
All the Shadespire warbands without cards and for a slightly lower price.
Edit.
Feels like a pre new edition filler release. Aos2 preorder the following week seems likely.

Now they just have to reintroduce all the other WHFB rules and everything will be fine. ;-)

Chikout wrote:
Next week’s preorder is an odd one.
All the Shadespire warbands without cards and for a slightly lower price.
Edit.
Feels like a pre new edition filler release. Aos2 preorder the following week seems likely.

Of course this happens when I just ordered the Steelheart's champion from e-bay at pretty steep price! Oh well. Welcome addition nevertheless.

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

Like the new change to sniping, should work well.

Reading through the Maggotkin preview... No offense to the writers but the advice was totally off the mark for how to build a Nurgle army. And the example they gave of a strong command ability combo was even worse.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

"Good nerf to character sniping, but my favorite unit better ignore it!"

Chikout wrote:
Next week’s preorder is an odd one.
All the Shadespire warbands without cards and for a slightly lower price.
Edit.
Feels like a pre new edition filler release. Aos2 preorder the following week seems likely.

Either that, or some 40k in between (Knight ?) - because the way GW talk about the Faction focus and little preview articles, it seems they still have loads (well if you are right that's still 3 weeks of previews, but you see what I mean).

Hope you are right, and happy for the Shadespire warbands !

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

Old world models are getting phased out, maybe they have a similar rule in 9th Age? You sound like you'd like 9th Age.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

Old world models are getting phased out, maybe they have a similar rule in 9th Age? You sound like you'd like 9th Age.

Witch Aelves, Doomfire Warlocks, Dryads, and Tree Lords would like a word.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

Old world models are getting phased out, maybe they have a similar rule in 9th Age? You sound like you'd like 9th Age.

When AoS first dropped, Waywatchers had a 'remain stationary and gain +1 to hit versus Monsters and Heroes' bit. It's since been changed to a flat 'stay still and get +1 to hit'.

My statement is that they should get the +1 to hit v. Monsters/Heroes back and keep their static +1 to hit. They're character/monster killers plain and simple.

 EnTyme wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

Old world models are getting phased out, maybe they have a similar rule in 9th Age? You sound like you'd like 9th Age.

Witch Aelves, Doomfire Warlocks, Dryads, and Tree Lords would like a word.

Which were part of the "Order" battletome back when AoS started. And Waywatchers were not.

Also these were plastic models, and, save for dryads, quite recent.

 Adam Spielmann wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This looks good. A nice small change that makes heroes a bit more survivable.

It damned well better be accompanied by Waywatchers regaining their ability to pick out Heroes and getting a bonus when shooting at them.

Old world models are getting phased out, maybe they have a similar rule in 9th Age? You sound like you'd like 9th Age.

Witch Aelves, Doomfire Warlocks, Dryads, and Tree Lords would like a word.

Which were part of the "Order" battletome back when AoS started. And Waywatchers were not.

Also these were plastic models, and, save for dryads, quite recent.

Incorrect. Waywatcher is now a Hero choice in Grand Alliance: Order The Waywatcher Lord is even still available for sale

Waywatchers, the unit, are not part of the Order battletome. They renamed the Waystalker(the "hero" Waywatcher) to just "Waywatcher".

Can I get free buffs to my units too?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Can I get free buffs to my units too?

Can I get my Waywatcher Hero to be my premiere ranged hero?

Because for the points cost he is currently, he's overpriced for what he does. He has been since GHB dropped.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Can I get free buffs to my units too?

Can I get my Waywatcher Hero to be my premiere ranged hero?

Because for the points cost he is currently, he's overpriced for what he does. He has been since GHB dropped.

No, he isn't. You are just portraying the things you play as overly bad, again. You've been doing it since AoS launched. I would run the numbers but I know from experience at this point you won't listen to them.

Khorne and command points

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/21/21st-may-faction-focus-blades-of-khornegw-homepage-post-3/

Can I get you two to contain your argument to at least a single thread? One that isn't the news and rumours one at that? Pretty please?

zamerion wrote:
Khorne and command points

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/21/21st-may-faction-focus-blades-of-khornegw-homepage-post-3/

Interesting, I'm guessing this will replace the triumph roll and it's a pretty good replacement at that.

I'm not sure the exchange of points for command points is worth it. Perhaps, if I end up having 50 points to spare. Alternatively, if I'd want to build an all - in army that wants to win the game on first turn.

Interesting the 1895 points example.

Maybe individual cost for each miniature?

Thebiggesthat wrote:
He's too many points because he's getting slowly faded out, just like some of the older stuff. The sooner people just accept that the old world is dead and only stragglers remain.

He's "too many points" because some ranged units cost more than a comparable close combat unit with superior abilities.

For example, compare Namarti Reavers to Thralls. Reavers cost the same as Thralls but Thralls are arguably a superior choice.

Statements like 'I hope my old army has this old world rule' are just begging for a 9 age demo game.

Why would I want a demo game for some crummy fanmade system that keeps the worst parts of 8th?

And the 'well they had it at the start of AoS' is just further proof they are a lovely wood elf shaped Dodo.

Except for the fact that Wanderers have been consistently mentioned in the fluff, in the rules, and just got Allegiance Abilities in the last GHB.


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 Knight wrote:
I'm not sure the exchange of points for command points is worth it. Perhaps, if I end up having 50 points to spare. Alternatively, if I'd want to build an all - in army that wants to win the game on first turn.

There's some armies where I could see it being a huge thing--Maggotkin and their Corruption Points allowing for Daemons as an example. You could come in under the points value and reinforce yourself with some new friends that way.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

zamerion wrote:
Khorne and command points

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/21/21st-may-faction-focus-blades-of-khornegw-homepage-post-3/

Interesting, I'm guessing this will replace the triumph roll and it's a pretty good replacement at that.

I fully agree. Do reinforcements points count towards this? If so, this may actually give an incentive to keep points in reserve for summoning.

On a side note, this is further evidence that we should wait to see the full picture before making a judgment on the rules changes. When Command Points were discussed last week, a lot of people were complaining about them being tied to battalions. This shows that there are going to be more ways to gain CP. So could we please stop judging the new edition based off of incomplete information?

 EnTyme wrote:
I fully agree. Do reinforcements points count towards this? If so, this may actually give an incentive to keep points in reserve for summoning.

Did the Slaanesh update get talked about somewhere in here? Because speaking of summoning:

Summoning

That’s not all – Slaanesh is receiving some powerful new summoning mechanics in the new edition. Using the new Depravity Points system, you’ll be able to bring anything from Daemonettes to a Keeper of Secrets onto the tabletop WITHOUT spending reinforcement points. Generating Depravity Points is very thematic– you’ll score one for every wound your Heroes inflict on a foe without killing them, or every non-fatal wound they receive in return – representing how the servants of the Dark Prince draw power from suffering and cruelty. They’re not the only faction to be receiving summoning changes, either…

- Salvage

Slaanesh is looking radiant today.

So lemme get this straight. Based on the faction focuses...

1.Summoning is gonna be improved(may wanna get into AoS now)

2.Commands are like 40K but points can replenish. Expect to see some heroes and few other models in army for laughs.

3.Grenades will probably be invented to counter LOS!.

4. She who Hungers is near Shadespire…..crap.....

Anything else I missed?

All I can see in that picture is some weird eyed happy face photobombing......