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So, do you think they will rerelase Death Masque with Harlequins/Deathwatch release? Would be a little reminder of how the whole Ynnead thing got started for new people who started in 8th.

My Wild Guesses are: the order will be Dark Eldar - DW - Harlequins - IK - Orks - Imperial Agents - Genestealers.

Maybe an Inquisition vs Genestealers type thing, in a kill team style box?

They love to pit an Imperial faction vs a not Imperial faction every chance they get, so I could see a book or something about Orks vs Knights, since Sanctus Reach was a big thing.

Death watch coming so soon is a surprise. It will be interesting to see what happens with them. Hopefully some of the daft model and wargear restrictions have been shown the door.

I wonder if they'll do a Deathwatch Primaris upgrade sprue, to give them proper guns and pads as well.

Mixed squads of Primaris Marine Deathwatch might be interesting - if likely extremely expensive points wise.

TCG could be interesting - though will likely turn more into a collectors type of things, rather than something on the scale of Magic/Pokemon etc etc

Plastic Sisters? I guess we'll finally see the end of all the pointless repeated questions at last... The end is finally in sight!

In terms of codex release - if they are shown and released in the same order as the LVO set of 3, we are looking at Harlequinns - Knights - Deathwatch

Not too bothered about the event only models - they're likely to just be different Marine character sculpts as per the norm.

Don't really follow AoS or Shadespire enough currently to comment on their stuff.

Split order, is nice - i remember having to wait weeks last time i added a made to order model to my order.

Could see some interesting to see whether or not there is a 40k version of Warhammer Legends. Currently most of the models are in the Indices only - so having them updated and kept track of in one place would be nice - though i'm not sure 40k warrants it as much as AoS does.

Interesting times ahead to say the least.

 BrookM wrote:
I wonder if they'll do a Deathwatch Primaris upgrade sprue, to give them proper guns and pads as well.

So far they've done this for all other Marine factions - I'd bet one an upgrade sprue for Deathwatch and Space Wolves (when the Wolftime finally comes).

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So Orks dead last, well, we are used to 10 years between codexes, so this is still okay in comparison

Well if we get several good kits we are better off than many of the imperial factions. Of course who says we get any models...

Reliable rumor sources

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So Orks dead last, well, we are used to 10 years between codexes, so this is still okay in comparison

Well if we get several good kits we are better off than many of the imperial factions. Of course who says we get any models...

There is that picture that shows a bunch of AOBR deffcoptas in the foreground and something entirely new and mek-lookin' in the background from the white dwarf.

https://i.redditmedia.com/1Y9HHHDnULML8PgkL3f9naj-v146UMrngEDsjscXosw.jpg?w=1000&s=df1af454e71697d2510298b5b2020bbf

(Background, on the right. What's goin' on there?)

the_scotsman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So Orks dead last, well, we are used to 10 years between codexes, so this is still okay in comparison

Well if we get several good kits we are better off than many of the imperial factions. Of course who says we get any models...

There is that picture that shows a bunch of AOBR deffcoptas in the foreground and something entirely new and mek-lookin' in the background from the white dwarf.

https://i.redditmedia.com/1Y9HHHDnULML8PgkL3f9naj-v146UMrngEDsjscXosw.jpg?w=1000&s=df1af454e71697d2510298b5b2020bbf

(Background, on the right. What's goin' on there?)

I'm guessing it's a kit bash (Orkified knight, perhap?), seeing as the text surrounding that picture on the WarCom site specifically talks about White Dwarf "kitbashing articles", and the Guard army on that page is also a kitbash (the "Ventrillian Dragoons" also shown in the Guard codex).

 Crazyterran wrote:


My Wild Guesses are: the order will be Dark Eldar - DW - Harlequins - IK - Orks - Imperial Agents - Genestealers.

DW, IK and Imperial Agents all before SW and Adeptus Ministorum?

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So Orks dead last, well, we are used to 10 years between codexes, so this is still okay in comparison

Well if we get several good kits we are better off than many of the imperial factions. Of course who says we get any models...

consistent rumors of new speed kult kits later this year

 Blackie wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:


My Wild Guesses are: the order will be Dark Eldar - DW - Harlequins - IK - Orks - Imperial Agents - Genestealers.

DW, IK and Imperial Agents all before SW and Adeptus Ministorum?

Actually, considering there was a rumour floating about that Armageddon would be the first 'supplement' after the Codex releases...this kind of makes sense.

Think about it.

We're getting World Eaters rumours floating about with Angron - Angron being banished during the first War for Armageddon - so Armageddon being overrun by Chaos is an ideal place to pull him back.

It currently has a high Ork population - so Orks getting lots of releases lead nicely to it.

And the SW were present during the first War (there's even that story about Ulrik getting the Khornate salute from it) - so another release leading up to it.

So perhaps, as a theory...

SW release, Ork release with some kits, Armageddon - perhaps with IG and CSM/Daemon splash kits (Flesh Hounds, Berserkers, a different guard regiment kit) and then WE afterwards?

I forgot about SW, they will probably be with Orks. Maybe with Leman Russ? Probably in the back half of the year.

Gotta save a few Imperials for last. I could see IA getting released first due to Kill Team, and the Inquisition just fitting so well in that kind of game.

I suspect the Ork release is going to be a biggie, but wouldn't it be great if it became another army to ditch all metal/resin/FineCost miniatures in favour of an all plastic product line?

That would include releasing a stonking great new plastic Ghaz!

But I'll take properly scaled Buggies/Trakks and actually-on-sale Koptaz just as much.

If we dont get an Orkumvirate, i vote the Orks riot.

Heck, they will riot either way, I guess...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I suspect the Ork release is going to be a biggie, but wouldn't it be great if it became another army to ditch all metal/resin/FineCost miniatures in favour of an all plastic product line?

That would include releasing a stonking great new plastic Ghaz!

But I'll take properly scaled Buggies/Trakks and actually-on-sale Koptaz just as much.

How many resin models does the Ork range have? I thought, shy a handful of characters, it was almost all plastic already

Leggy wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I suspect the Ork release is going to be a biggie, but wouldn't it be great if it became another army to ditch all metal/resin/FineCost miniatures in favour of an all plastic product line?

That would include releasing a stonking great new plastic Ghaz!

But I'll take properly scaled Buggies/Trakks and actually-on-sale Koptaz just as much.

How many resin models does the Ork range have? I thought, shy a handful of characters, it was almost all plastic already

Nah. Tankbustas, Kommandos, Big Gunz, all the special characters, Warboss, Deffcopta, all finecast currently where they are available.

The fact that we don't have a warboss kit yet is hilarious to me.

the_scotsman wrote:

Leggy wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I suspect the Ork release is going to be a biggie, but wouldn't it be great if it became another army to ditch all metal/resin/FineCost miniatures in favour of an all plastic product line?

That would include releasing a stonking great new plastic Ghaz!

But I'll take properly scaled Buggies/Trakks and actually-on-sale Koptaz just as much.

How many resin models does the Ork range have? I thought, shy a handful of characters, it was almost all plastic already

Nah. Tankbustas, Kommandos, Big Gunz, all the special characters, Warboss, Deffcopta, all finecast currently where they are available.

The fact that we don't have a warboss kit yet is hilarious to me.

Grukk Face-Rippa? Isn't he in plastic?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

Leggy wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I suspect the Ork release is going to be a biggie, but wouldn't it be great if it became another army to ditch all metal/resin/FineCost miniatures in favour of an all plastic product line?

That would include releasing a stonking great new plastic Ghaz!

But I'll take properly scaled Buggies/Trakks and actually-on-sale Koptaz just as much.

How many resin models does the Ork range have? I thought, shy a handful of characters, it was almost all plastic already

Nah. Tankbustas, Kommandos, Big Gunz, all the special characters, Warboss, Deffcopta, all finecast currently where they are available.

The fact that we don't have a warboss kit yet is hilarious to me.

Grukk Face-Rippa? Isn't he in plastic?

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Orks were released alongside, or shortly before a campaign book / set / global event revolving around Armageddon and the like, one of the primary warzones mentioned in the rulebook.

 Kanluwen wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

After getting so used to the larger bases for Marines, the small bases on orks almost look comical.

 Kanluwen wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

There is also AoBR warboss available right now in Vedros and Revell kits, and AoS warboss requiring minimum conversion with spare nob bitz.

Really, I don't know why people point fingers at Sister players, Ork players easily beat them in volume (both meanings, even) despite their protests often being like above, completely unfounded. Hell, even Marines often don't have three good different plastic kits for most of their units, never mind demanding fourth

I really wish they'd make new Orks that have proportions similar to the new(ish) AOS Orruks.



Their body shape is just way better, they actually look like they could walk on two legs and they look way more menacing.

 Irbis wrote:

There is also AoBR warboss available right now in Vedros and Revell kits, and AoS warboss requiring minimum conversion with spare nob bitz.

Really, I don't know why people point fingers at Sister players, Ork players easily beat them in volume (both meanings, even) despite their protests often being like above, completely unfounded. Hell, even Marines often don't have three good different plastic kits for most of their units, never mind demanding fourth

Whew, where to start with this?

Are you being serious? Are you honestly calling him out because he doesn't consider an AoS warboss a decent enough model to use in WH40k? I guess Space Marine players don't need any more models, Stormcasts will do right? That is how stupid your claim is.

Vedros/AoBR/Revell warboss is only in those kits. Now you're telling me that every Ork should buy an outdated set for one model? I don't think so.

There aren't 'three good different plastic kits', this is clearly false. There's monopose mono-loadout Grukk (who's a named character so it's tantamount to telling a Blood Angels player to take Dante as a captain), there's a Boss w/ Big Choppa that I believe is metal. Resin Ghazzy. Please show me these other plastic kits on the GW webstore that I must be missing.

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

There is also AoBR warboss available right now in Vedros and Revell kits, and AoS warboss requiring minimum conversion with spare nob bitz.

Really, I don't know why people point fingers at Sister players, Ork players easily beat them in volume (both meanings, even) despite their protests often being like above, completely unfounded. Hell, even Marines often don't have three good different plastic kits for most of their units, never mind demanding fourth

Good luck actually finding the Vedros kits in the US.

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

There is also AoBR warboss available right now in Vedros and Revell kits, and AoS warboss requiring minimum conversion with spare nob bitz.

Really, I don't know why people point fingers at Sister players, Ork players easily beat them in volume (both meanings, even) despite their protests often being like above, completely unfounded. Hell, even Marines often don't have three good different plastic kits for most of their units, never mind demanding fourth

I mean, if you're talking about Marine captains, you have the basic one in the plastic kit, you can also get the AOBR one from Vedros, and you have the AOS Stormcast Celestant you can make into a marine captain with minimal conversion.

 daedalus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

After getting so used to the larger bases for Marines, the small bases on orks almost look comical.

But gamewise helps them since they take less space on board. 200+ orks required to have any chance already eats ridiculously much of 6'x4' especially for game where you want to pretend actually tactics would matter. Not that they have mattered much for a long time thanks to GW pushing bigger armies all the time making all manouvering moot on 6'x4'


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
There aren't 'three good different plastic kits', this is clearly false. There's monopose mono-loadout Grukk (who's a named character so it's tantamount to telling a Blood Angels player to take Dante as a captain), there's a Boss w/ Big Choppa that I believe is metal. Resin Ghazzy. Please show me these other plastic kits on the GW webstore that I must be missing.

Well in case you haven't noticed GW has went for monopose characters where you are lucky if you get swappable pistol. No reason to think any ork warboss model would be different. Maybe you get extra head to swap!

God, I hate that characters are now mono-pose, hard to customize. What was wrong with standardizing how all infantry of a certain race assemble? You used to be able to put random weapon from a troop squad on an elite or HQ, now there's cutting.

 cuda1179 wrote:
God, I hate that characters are now mono-pose, hard to customize. What was wrong with standardizing how all infantry of a certain race assemble? You used to be able to put random weapon from a troop squad on an elite or HQ, now there's cutting.

Chapterhouse happened.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'm not sure if there's a way to get him atm, just like the other plastic AOBR warboss with power klaw who disappeared in a poof of smoke because GW can't be arsed to give us models that they've produced in the past. See also: Plastic Deffcopta.

You can get Grukk in a Boss Mob. It's $50 for a box of Nobs and Grukk.

There is also AoBR warboss available right now in Vedros and Revell kits, and AoS warboss requiring minimum conversion with spare nob bitz.

Really, I don't know why people point fingers at Sister players, Ork players easily beat them in volume (both meanings, even) despite their protests often being like above, completely unfounded. Hell, even Marines often don't have three good different plastic kits for most of their units, never mind demanding fourth

Good luck actually finding the Vedros kits in the US.

One of the local stores here in Baton Rouge carries them as regular product.