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 Manchu wrote:
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Phasma I assume from the description.
   
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Ah well sure, that makes sense.

As far as Solo goes, along these lines
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Enfys Nest is pretty awesome.

   
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I had no problem with the screen brightness where I saw it. Maybe some parts were dark, but never so dark it made it at all hard to tell what was going on or even make me think it was too dark at all. I saw it in 2d, did you see it in 3d? That tends to dim the brightness, so maybe it’s just an issue of 3d making a dim movie dark?

 
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 AduroT wrote:
I had no problem with the screen brightness where I saw it. Maybe some parts were dark, but never so dark it made it at all hard to tell what was going on or even make me think it was too dark at all. I saw it in 2d, did you see it in 3d? That tends to dim the brightness, so maybe it’s just an issue of 3d making a dim movie dark?


Nope, 2D showing, I think 3D is a headache-causing gimmick. I think it really was just a case of their projector system being fethed after the fire alarm problem.

It really was like watching a trashy cam torrent without the tinny sound and dodgy viewing angle.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Well, I don’t get the hate this film is receiving. It was a good movie, maybe not a great movie, but it is a good one. It feels like Star Wars, it’s added some additional depth. I give it an 85%.


Well see there's your trouble chief - you wanted to see a fun Star Wars movie, and saw a fun Star Wars movie. But, post-TLJ, the postmodernist crowd have now claimed Star Wars as theirs, so the fact Solo isn't a scathing subtext-heavy indictment of toxic masculinity with a side order of gleeful tearing-down of the basic "scoundrel with a heart of gold" archetype makes it worthless.

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Speaking as someone who loves TLJ, I also loved Solo. Both very different films to be sure, but I think they complement each other nicely; TLJ challenges a lot of the traditional Star Wars tone and narrative while Solo revels in it, and there's ample room for both really. I don't see that it ever has to be one or the other, more Star Wars and different Star Wars is typically a good thing.

Non-spoilery, I really enjoyed the cast throughout Solo. Beckett's first team that are as close as we'll get to a Firefly reboot, and the ensemble throughout the rest of the movie were all entertaining. Glover as Lando was certainly a scene-stealer and L3 manages to tread the fine line between irritating and genuinely funny rather well. The villains of the piece were also good, Bettany especially who really worked well with the material he was given.

I also liked the sheer amount of Star Wars-ness that was going on. Little things like the background references, the new planets, the wider context with the Empire, along with some aspects we genuinely haven't seen before like the 'three years later' sequence and planets that before have only got a mention, like Kessel and Corellia. Aesthetically, everything landed and felt authentic, and the tone was likewise very classically Star Wars.

As for Han himself, I think Alden did a fine job. It was his own spin on the role certainly, but there were definitely lines where you could see the later incarnation breaking through, and for a prequel set 10 years before the Han we first meet, I think that's enough. Certainly, he wasn't the incoherent disaster that so much pre-release internet hyperbole was suggesting.


Spoiler:

On to spoilers then...

I think the pacing was pretty spot on to be honest. There was a danger that this was going to be Kessel Run: The Movie, but having that third act pull a reversal with Enfys Nest, then again with Beckett (though that was more predictable and heavily foreshadowed) made sure it was more than that. I don't think the double-crossings ever got into silly territory, everyone reverted to type so it felt natural.

I think Qi'ra's betrayal will do a lot to harden Han going forward, in this his Good Guy is showing a lot more than it does until the end of ANH but that betrayal by someone so integral to his whole persona ought to bring that side of him out more. Likewise, having to shoot his own father figure (in a scene that managed to be far more than just a 'Han shot first' joke) will make him a little tougher.

Like Rogue One though, everything is overshadowed by a last-minute Sith Lord... Holy crap. I did not expect to ever see Maul on the big screen in live action again, and even then, never expected to hear Witwer's fantastic take on the voice work in that format...Throughout the whole film, I was trying to figure out who Drydan was answering to after someone mentioned it when they first meet him, but all I could come up with was Jabba or (less likely) Vader... So a reveal that Maul is not only still kicking around, still running his syndicate and hasn't ended up as a crazy old man on Malachor yet, is just tantalising in its potential... More on that in a minute...

I think they got the reference balance right. There were plenty of in-jokes and subtle nods, including some fairly obscure ones (Aura Sing? Teris Kasi? Not things I expected to see mentioned!) but even stuff like The Imperial March playing over the recruitment ad was a neat touch, as was the nod to Rogue One about how breaking in to the Scarif vault was impossible. Likewise, the odd bit of reused/repurposed Han dialogue was fine by me, especially the 'I hate you'/'I know' exchange.

I mentioned the '3 years later' segment above, I really think that was fantastic. The Empire in that kind of battle is something we've never seen before and that I'd happily see used as the premise for an entire film. The stark contrast between the traditional clean Stormtroopers on patrol and these poor gits ankle deep in the mud, the white armour turned brown, their gear patched and misshapen, it was a very unique spectacle and I'll take more of that any time.


Back to Maul though, I wonder if he's going to be the thing tying a few upcoming films together. If they're going for some kind of Solo/Lando/Fett trilogy he'd be a suitable overall antagonist and they could fill in the big gap in his timeline between Son of Dathomir/the end of The Clone Wars and him bumming around on Malachor 18 years later.

Hell, it's ludicrous amounts of fanservice, but an assassination attempt on Maul could be the perfect premise for that Fett movie that's rumoured, and could even tie in with the 'big job on Tatooine' that came up in Solo. If you want to sell tickets, Jabba the Hutt sending Boba Fett and Han Solo (and some other mercs... let's see Bossk or IG-88 back) to take on Maul is one hell of a pitch.... What Star Wars fan wouldn't be on board with two of the fan-favourite characters who never got enough screen time being set against each other?



Anyhow, all in all a fantastic film. As far as I'm concerned, Disney are 4/4 so far and I eagerly await the announcement of whatever follow-up to Solo we end up getting, whether that's Solo 2 (2olo? ) or Lando or Fett or something completely different.

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I'm still interested to see what the original take looked like.

Just for posterity.


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Also nice to see Decraniated at long last, having been cut from Rogue One

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Grey Templar, you see, Solo is the Ultramarines of the Star Wars movies, where everyone wants to be in the 'cool' group that is hating it for nitpicky reasons. Solo was just as enjoyable as Rogue One, moreso in some ways.

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Donald Glover played a fine Lando but I think Alden's performance is seriously being slept on by critics. I had zero faith in him playing Han but I think he did as good a job as anyone minus Harrison himself could do. I'd go a step further and say that he played a better Han then Harrison did in TFA lol. His mannerisms and the intonations of his voice were spot-on imo. I could totally hear Han Solo in the way he spoke and gestured- albeit perhaps a Han Solo who was still young and earnest.

Overall I liked it. More then I thought I would. At the same time though... I would say that only the first quarter stood out to me as exceptional.

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The Correlia escape, the warzone and the first heist all felt really great, but around the space-cthulu scene the plot began to feel thin. Pretty much everything that took place on the beach felt off to me. The sympathetic gang/Rebellion tie-in in particular really rubbed the wrong way. I hate the tropes involved, I hate the heavy-handed wink-wink nudge-nudge of "noooo I would NEVER join the rebellion haha" and I hate how small things like this make the setting feel. We had an entire film AND an entire TV series dedicated to the formation of the rebellion. While the film overall (like 99%) did a great job of feeling small in scope and avoiding getting caught in the overall galactic politics I was disappointed that they ended up dropping the ball at the very end for the sake of a feel-good ending. It reeked of test audience meddling/rewrites.


The movie gave me faith in Disney's spin-off films, though I don't want to see another Han Solo film. I don't want to see a Yoda or Obi-Wan movie either. TFA/TLJ/Solo all showed that Disney is really playing with fire when they try to go heavy on expanding already well-established characters- and for quite a few people Solo is the only film where they really got away with it. A Boba Fett film seems like it'd be okay if they could avoid trying too hard to tie it in to ESB and Han in particular, but overall I'd prefer if their spin-offs focused on OC Donut Steel characters instead of burning good will on the iconic pre-existing ones.

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I want to echo what BlaxicanX said about Alden’s performance. He nailed it, and made it his own. The fact that he didn’t just ape Ford and instead played a more naive and optimistic version of Solo was the right thing to do. As for Donald Glover, he was brilliant for the exact opposite reason Alden was. He was so much like Billy Dean Williams in his performance it was scary!
   
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Here's a thought......

Spoiler:
Maul didn't show up without reason. Especially given those who haven't seen Clone Wars or Rebels were left scratching their heads.

Now, this could herald a loose grouping of stories with intersection.

But it could also be a backdoor intro to the forthcoming Live Action Series. And don't forget who Maul's right-hand gal is portrayed by....and that a certain long term role for said actress is about to become defunct.

There's a lot they can pick up and run with from Solo, and it'd be criminal for them to not pick up those threads.

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I believe the live action series is set to be post-RotJ, which kind of throws a spanner in the works there.

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As much as I'd totally be up for a series following Maul and his criminal empire, and it'd open up so many new stories and possibilities (it's implied in Rebels he has some history with Ashoka that we don't know about yet) but it contradicts with the one piece of info we have about the live action show.

 
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Here's a thought......

Spoiler:
Maul didn't show up without reason. Especially given those who haven't seen Clone Wars or Rebels were left scratching their heads.

Now, this could herald a loose grouping of stories with intersection.

But it could also be a backdoor intro to the forthcoming Live Action Series. And don't forget who Maul's right-hand gal is portrayed by....and that a certain long term role for said actress is about to become defunct.

There's a lot they can pick up and run with from Solo, and it'd be criminal for them to not pick up those threads.


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The live action series is already confirmed as taking place post-Endor, so Qi'ra would require a much older actress if that character was making an appearance, plus Maul would be long dead. I think it's more likely that the theory around Maul being a potential antagonistic link between the Solo and any eventual sequels or between Solo and the Fett & Lando Stories films is more likely than anything else.

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Yep both the live action series and the animated Resistance are set between RotJ and TFA.

Rebels spoiler
Spoiler:
I think Ezra and Thrawn will reappear during this period they conveniently put them on ice during the period of the original trilogy much like Ahsoka doesn’t break canon as she never actually became a Jedi and we know she and Sabine are look for Ezra during this period. Thrawn could be part of the initial First Order

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I did not like TLJ and I enjoyed Solo. It wasn't perfect and it didn't need to be made, but at least it was fun and adventurous.

Solo and Rogue One rank higher for me than both TFA and TLJ. We'll see if they can right the ship with IX, but I already don't consider the prequels as legitimate SW movies, so I'm fine with relegating the sequel trilogy to the trash chute as well if that is the case.
   
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Who (or what)?


Yeah my phone totally farted out something other than Phasma because my thumbs are big and I was in a hurry XD

   
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 Manchu wrote:
Wel Nah Aphasia does sound like a SW character TBH


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Nah Phasma has been a big disappointment as a character imo. I had big hopes for a kick ass girl Boba but she’s such a pushover in both films she appears in. Sure Boba is maybe a bit overblown but idk he has a much better air of awesome around him.


I've definitely got to agree with you here. Phasma in TFA really reminded me at the end of Humperdiinck's captain of the guard in the Princess Bride only didn't need someone to ask a Wookie or Andre the Giant to tear her arms off to fork over what they needed. Sure, they gave her some menace in TLJ, but it's kinda hard to recover a reputation as a badass from "Oh you mean this key".
   
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Like I said, here comes Enfys Nest ...

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She kinda reminded me of Hiccup's mum in How To Train Your Dragon 2.
   
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When I was watching the movie I didn’t realize Enfys Nest was her name, I thought it was the name of their gang.

 
   
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Same here until near the end of the movie.

   
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 Grey Templar wrote:
Well, I don’t get the hate this film is receiving. It was a good movie, maybe not a great movie, but it is a good one. It feels like Star Wars, it’s added some additional depth. I give it an 85%.


I honestly more and more think Disney just doesn't know how to write jedi without being OP and/or emo (but then i think the old and now defunct EU sucked at that too). Perhaps that doesn't help. If that's the case i am unsure what the obi-wan flick will do since he's a jedi. It is a separate story so it won't have issues like TLJ or any of that mess of a trilogy to go through. Perhaps the main story is just on a really hard to depict time. The bad guys regain power somehow in a big, big way. In the other stories they get more events to work with and they can say where or with who they wish to add depth and story to.

 bbb wrote:
I did not like TLJ and I enjoyed Solo. It wasn't perfect and it didn't need to be made, but at least it was fun and adventurous.

Solo and Rogue One rank higher for me than both TFA and TLJ. We'll see if they can right the ship with IX, but I already don't consider the prequels as legitimate SW movies, so I'm fine with relegating the sequel trilogy to the trash chute as well if that is the case.


As long as phasma goes along for the trash chute ride....oh wait .

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(but then i think the old and now defunct EU sucked at that too).


It did.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
Like I said, here comes Enfys Nest ...
I don't know if I've ever seen a character get introduced and then character assassinated so quickly.

Oh wait, Phasma.
   
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Just came back from the movie. I'm not sure what the spoiler policy is here, so I'll just spoiler all my thoughts to be safe.

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I quite enjoyed the movie overall. It felt like Star Wars through and through. I had set my expectations pretty low from the trailers and was surprised at how misleading the trailers were, particularly the 'putting together a crew' line. The whole thing felt organic and wasn't a forced 'assembling a crew for a gangster' movie I was expecting.

The acting was solid. I'll need a second viewing to really make some better impressions, but Alden really grew on me as Han by the end of the movie. I think the turning point for me was when he was defending the Falcon on Kessel as they made their fighting retreat. His stance and movement were perfect Han. Glover was awesome as Lando. I came in with high hopes and left fully satisfied with his performance.

All the references to later movies and shows were well done, even the little things like how Lando pronounces his name.

My chief complaint is how dark large parts of the movie were. Very DC-esque, which I can't say I'm fond of.

I don't think I liked it as much as Rogue One, but maybe another watch will change my mind. Either way, a well done movie that brought me into the universe for a pleasant adventure with some fun characters.

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Yep both the live action series and the animated Resistance are set between RotJ and TFA.

Rebels spoiler
Spoiler:
I think Ezra and Thrawn will reappear during this period they conveniently put them on ice during the period of the original trilogy much like Ahsoka doesn’t break canon as she never actually became a Jedi and we know she and Sabine are look for Ezra during this period. Thrawn could be part of the initial First Order
For such a long time my point of view on this sort of thing was "Yeah, as if. That'll never happen. The TV shows don't influence or interact with the movies at all. The shows take their orders from the movies, not the other way around! Just like Marvel!".

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Then Maul happened


... and suddenly I'm not so sure. That could all happen.

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I liked Enfy's helmet.

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