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Mostly I'm positive on the new terrain. I've got a bunch of Sector Mechanicus stuff and think it looks great.
The one downside is that when GW puts out super detailed stuff like this it seems harder to scratch build matching terrain at home. Gantries are relatively cheap and easy to make, but making ones that look like Sector Mechanicus gantries seems challenging.
How do you make gantries? I'd like more terrain and building it seems the best solution but trying to get me to work out how to build from scratch is like teaching a child about atomic structure.
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I was thinking about using granny grating over plasticard H-beams. If I didn't want to model too many cross-breams I was going to glue the granny grating on top of a solid sheet of plasticard.
It might still look fine next to the Mechanicus gantries. I was considering buying one of those vinyl cutters to do something closer to the Mechanicus ones for an Apocalypse-sized board, but that's a lot of money if I don't use it for other projects.
Dakka Flakka Flame wrote: I was thinking about using granny grating over plasticard H-beams. If I didn't want to model too many cross-breams I was going to glue the granny grating on top of a solid sheet of plasticard.
It might still look fine next to the Mechanicus gantries. I was considering buying one of those vinyl cutters to do something closer to the Mechanicus ones for an Apocalypse-sized board, but that's a lot of money if I don't use it for other projects.
You want the Darice "purse form" plastic canvas(not the regular sheets), it's an almost perfect match for the SectorMech grating. I'll be cutting plasticard layers to match the surface detailing and sandwiching the canvas between them and running strip along the edges, should give something that matches the official terrain well but is a bit more reasonable as an actual raised gantry/walkway. The proper plastic kit versions will get used as, essentially, floor tiles on any raised solid platforms.
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Yodhrin wrote: You want the Darice "purse form" plastic canvas(not the regular sheets), it's an almost perfect match for the SectorMech grating. I'll be cutting plasticard layers to match the surface detailing and sandwiching the canvas between them and running strip along the edges, should give something that matches the official terrain well but is a bit more reasonable as an actual raised gantry/walkway. The proper plastic kit versions will get used as, essentially, floor tiles on any raised solid platforms.
You wouldn't happen to know what mesh size to use?
@Flinty: That looks very cool mate. But what's with the horde of Kinder eggs? Other than spaceships, I've never really found much use for them ... although they "should" be very useful! Maybe I just lack imagination. Gi's a tip ...
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Flinty wrote: I went simple with 5mm thick foamed pvc. Added some plaster board tape, attackedit with a dremel and then greyed the flippety flip out of it.
For longer sections I added some plastic I sections underneath to add stiffness as seen in the background here
Yodhrin wrote: You want the Darice "purse form" plastic canvas(not the regular sheets), it's an almost perfect match for the SectorMech grating. I'll be cutting plasticard layers to match the surface detailing and sandwiching the canvas between them and running strip along the edges, should give something that matches the official terrain well but is a bit more reasonable as an actual raised gantry/walkway. The proper plastic kit versions will get used as, essentially, floor tiles on any raised solid platforms.
You wouldn't happen to know what mesh size to use?
The purse form one only comes in one mesh size - 6-count - this is the one to look for, I think it's called "clutchbag" pattern over your side of the pond?
If you absolutely can't find it, the next closest is the 7-count A4 size sheets but they're noticeably different to the SectorMech pattern because the plastic thickness changes as well as the hole size.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
War Drone wrote: @Flinty: That looks very cool mate. But what's with the horde of Kinder eggs? Other than spaceships, I've never really found much use for them ... although they "should" be very useful! Maybe I just lack imagination. Gi's a tip ...
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Flinty wrote: I went simple with 5mm thick foamed pvc. Added some plaster board tape, attackedit with a dremel and then greyed the flippety flip out of it.
For longer sections I added some plastic I sections underneath to add stiffness as seen in the background here
Heh. They are in readiness for my ladies' money making scheme, or chem works as we like to think of it in a very real sense.
Some kind of chemical tank or mixing vessel or incubator or growth vat or something. Macguffins, basically.
Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Yodhrin wrote: You want the Darice "purse form" plastic canvas(not the regular sheets), it's an almost perfect match for the SectorMech grating. I'll be cutting plasticard layers to match the surface detailing and sandwiching the canvas between them and running strip along the edges, should give something that matches the official terrain well but is a bit more reasonable as an actual raised gantry/walkway. The proper plastic kit versions will get used as, essentially, floor tiles on any raised solid platforms.
Some fantastic terrain crafting skills there - especially love the Kinder Surprise vats, they remind me of cryogenic pod artwork or even the pink human generator pods from the Matrix.
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Hopefully, sooner or later the designer of the terrain will be updating his Twitter again with some neat conversion ideas and the like, as with the Mechanicus terrain.
Have to say that I am loving the new terrain, a nice lot of sprues come with the Kill Team box. The modularity is great, even the ruins sprue offers a fair few options for small corner pieces or long wall sections. If stairs etc are added that will be brilliant.
Wanted to wait for Rogue Trader....but those buildings!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Built my Sanctum kit this evening.
For my money, it’s a definite improvement on the now old Cityscape Kits.
When assembly is complete, it feels more solid - but to be fair, I assembled according to the instructions, so free builds may not be quite so robust if you’re not careful.
For me, the biggest difference is getting the Right Angles spot on. That’s something I struggled with on the old kits - your experience may have been different.
But with these kits, and in particular how they interlock, it’s easy to get those angles straight. Though I’d recommend getting your floor tiles cleaned up before gluing the wall sections together - that certainly helped me get everything right. In fact, I’d go so far as to say is other than the pillar halves, it’s worth working out what bits and bobs you’ll be needing, and get them all cut out and cleaned up before gluing stuff together. I found that the odd capstone here and there before the instructions call for them, it again helps to get things nice and solid and the angles spot on.
They’re definitely impressive kits, and an improvement on what came before.
But, whether the improvement justifies the increased cost isn’t for me to say really. Certainly I’d like them to have been cheaper, but I for one don’t feel exactly ripped off at the investment.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Built my Sanctum kit this evening.
For my money, it’s a definite improvement on the now old Cityscape Kits.
When assembly is complete, it feels more solid - but to be fair, I assembled according to the instructions, so free builds may not be quite so robust if you’re not careful.
For me, the biggest difference is getting the Right Angles spot on. That’s something I struggled with on the old kits - your experience may have been different.
But with these kits, and in particular how they interlock, it’s easy to get those angles straight. Though I’d recommend getting your floor tiles cleaned up before gluing the wall sections together - that certainly helped me get everything right. In fact, I’d go so far as to say is other than the pillar halves, it’s worth working out what bits and bobs you’ll be needing, and get them all cut out and cleaned up before gluing stuff together. I found that the odd capstone here and there before the instructions call for them, it again helps to get things nice and solid and the angles spot on.
They’re definitely impressive kits, and an improvement on what came before.
But, whether the improvement justifies the increased cost isn’t for me to say really. Certainly I’d like them to have been cheaper, but I for one don’t feel exactly ripped off at the investment.
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So looking at that balcony/walkway, look at the initial short columns and the guard rails. I haven't seen these on any of the new sprues - could be from a future kit?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unless the guard rails are just ladders maybe?
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#SectorImperialis No1. Probably the most important feature of the new kits are the pillars. Not only are they very gothic and give the buildings a chunkier/sturdier look, they also allow completely invisible joints for both straights and corners
For those not in the know, this is the designer of the terrain and he'll be showcasing new kit features and conversion ideas over the course of several days / weeks.
I've had his twitter open since the Sector Mechanicus stuff came out. Endless tips from him.
I will say that I am impressed by the pillars on these kits. As soon as Duncan showed off how they allow you to join the walls at lots of different angles (not just straight or right angles), I was sold. I wish - wish - the Cities of Death stuff was that intuitive.
Wonderful design.
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The one bizarre thing is that you have to cut the row'o'skulls off the top of some elements to fit the next level. One would think it would be easier on everybody to include it as a seperate piece that you can glue on.
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