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Invictor Warsuits aren’t really Dreads but they start in charge and incinerator range or get blown away before they get a turn - either works.
Then my Wolf Guard Bikers with combi-plasma/storm shield or Storm Bolter /Storm Shield loadouts race up and join the commotion.
Still struggles with T8 if I don’t nab first turn but can take the win in most matches that I do take the play.

Dunno about the rest of you but a B.A. type upgrade will probably be enough for me to try my wolves again. My iron hands are still broke as hell, but if they actually offer us a niche and abilities/strats/relics to actually occupy that niche then ill be happy.

COLD CASH wrote:
Dunno about the rest of you but a B.A. type upgrade will probably be enough for me to try my wolves again. My iron hands are still broke as hell, but if they actually offer us a niche and abilities/strats/relics to actually occupy that niche then ill be happy.

I was looking at the Blood Angles upgrades and wondering when that was coming to space wolves.

Anyone know? Is it in the works? Is there a date or is it all just speculation?

Supposedly the fourth book they tangle with Orks, as for the date I’ve got no idea.

with the rate early/mid january seems to be good guess. They are coming pretty fast. 4th book is pretty much over the corner now. About time we need to hear about 5th and further books!

tneva82 wrote:
with the rate early/mid january seems to be good guess. They are coming pretty fast. 4th book is pretty much over the corner now. About time we need to hear about 5th and further books!

Something you’re hoping for in the 5th or 6th?

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
with the rate early/mid january seems to be good guess. They are coming pretty fast. 4th book is pretty much over the corner now. About time we need to hear about 5th and further books!

Something you’re hoping for in the 5th or 6th?

Well apart from generally wanting to know what is coming next necron's would def be my interest 1, 2 and 3 have been fairly irrelevant for me(I have small blood angel force but that would require investing more money to really utilize so pass for now), 4th has at least ork stuff(and I have small wolf force but same issue as blood angels except even bigger). Leaves necrons for my active forces. Guess IG and Imperial knights could have something but those aren't getting active use. Necrons are the ones I'm mostly waiting. Orks & Necrons are my favourite armies but orks are so god damn slow I find hard to be motivated to play. Necrons are more fun in that less time pressure.

Necrons huh, hope you aren't disappointed.
Pretty much all of 8th has sucked for those poor robo zombies.

So psychic awaking 3 is blood angles and Tyrinids. Pa 2 was phinix rising fun elfs, no fun elfs and undead elfs (no a good book IMO) What wasPA 1? Which one did I miss?

And you say pa 4 is wolves and orks?

Word around the rumour mills.
We probably won’t see it until early next year if we’re lucky. If they burn us again like they did with the Codex...

Headlss wrote:
So psychic awaking 3 is blood angles and Tyrinids. Pa 2 was phinix rising fun elfs, no fun elfs and undead elfs (no a good book IMO) What wasPA 1? Which one did I miss?

And you say pa 4 is wolves and orks?

Looking at the lineup realesed at Warhammer world yesterday it looks like wolves will PA 6. But all our characters dropped significantly in CA19. Saw it on D6 evolution YouTube.

Wtf pa 6 thats april ffs.

I don't have my book on hand but it looks like Wulfen Dreadnought with Axe and shield dropped about 30pts and I think a unit of wulfen dropped 25pts too! I'm also excited about 6pt fenrisian wolves, still more points then I think they should cost but it's a lot better then 8pts.

Anyone know anything about the rumors that GW screwed up the fast attack page in CA 2019 by printing the CA 2018 prices (land speeder and bikers going up)?

Headlss wrote:
So psychic awaking 3 is blood angles and Tyrinids. Pa 2 was phinix rising fun elfs, no fun elfs and undead elfs (no a good book IMO) What wasPA 1? Which one did I miss?

And you say pa 4 is wolves and orks?

PA 1 was Phoenix Rising, 2 was Faith and Fury (BT and Chaos)

bananathug wrote:
Anyone know anything about the rumors that GW screwed up the fast attack page in CA 2019 by printing the CA 2018 prices (land speeder and bikers going up)?

That seems to be the common opinion but no one at GW have confirmed it yet. Wait for the errata I guess. To be fair, I don't run many FA units, just 3 Cyberwolves for Reserve denials.

Did SW get the price reduction they needed? I remember how we where forgitten last time.

 Niiai wrote:
Did SW get the price reduction they needed? I remember how we where forgitten last time.

We got a fair range of reductions. Our Primaris stuff is all in line of course.

Arjac Rockfist down 35 points to 110
Bjorn down 30 points to 150
Canis Wolfborn down 25 points to 100
Harald Deathwolf down 53 points to 135
Krom Dragongaze down 15 points to 75
Logan Grimnar down 30 points to 140
Logan Grimnar on Stormrider down 35 points to 155
Lukas the Trickster down 30 points to 80
Murderfang down 45 points to 125
Njal Stormcaller down 23 to 115
Njal Stormcaller in Runic Terminator Armour down 28 to 125
Ragnar Blackmane down 41 points to 100
Svangir and Ulfgir down 4 points to 4
Ulrik the Slayer down 25 points to 85
Primaris Battle Leader down 5 points to 65
Primaris Rune Priest down 3 points to 90
Primaris Wolf Priest down 3 points to 77
Rune Priest down 8 points to 80, Runic Axe down 2 points to 10
Rune Priest in Terminator Armour down 2 points to 100
Rune Priest with Jump Pack down 4 points to 108
Wolf Guard Battle Leader in Terminator Armour down 21 points to 70
Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Thunderwolf down 18 points to 86
Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf down 23 to 95
Wolf Priest down 3 points to 72
Wolf Priest in Terminator Armour down 5 points to 90
Wolf Priest with Jump Pack down 7 points to 90
Blood Claws down 1 point to 12, Wolf Guard Pack Leader down 2 points to 14, Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader down 3 points to 23
Grey Hunters down 1 point to 12, Wolf Guard Pack Leader down 2 points to 14, Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader down 3 points to 23
Reivers down 2 points to 16
Elites - Wolf Guard Pack Leader up 2 points to 16
Elites - Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader up 3 points to 26
Wulfen down 5 points to 23 - Frost claws down 4 to 11, Great frost axe down 8 to 9,
Wulfen Dreadnought down 5 points to 65, Fenrisian great axe down 20 points to 30
Long Fangs down 1 point to 13, Wolf Guard Pack Leader down 2 points to 14, Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader down 3 points to 23
Fenrisian Wolf down 2 points to 6
Land Speeders up 25 points to 70...
Skyclaws up 1 point to 16

Strangely it looks like all our FA options have reverted to the original Codex prices. I think that this is actually a misprint so look out for the FA section getting FAQed at some point in the next couple of weeks.

Hmm, our Wolf Guard units now pay premium for their sergeants? And why does WGs with jump pack still cost 19 while Vanguard only cost 17? Also, TWC still sucks.

The drop for Wulfen is a surprise and not really needed but welcome anyways. At least they can compensate my Lord's hammer

No change for the Leviathan is also a surprise. I would have bet my left arm that it gets an increase because I'm currently painting one

Doesn't change much for my list.

PS: Helfrost Cannons, Frost Weapons, Tempest Hammer and Wolf Claws also got cheaper

I was shure we all waited for -twc decrease.

Are the characters cheap enough to ride thunderwolves?

Wolf mounts are a trap option, jump pack is way better. FLY and INFANTRY key words (and a small footprint and silhouette) give you so many advantages, especially with ruins on the field. Most GW terrain kits are ruins and they are easily scratch build so you will find them on nearly every table and often making up the largest junk if not even the majority of the terrain.

 Niiai wrote:
I was shure we all waited for -twc decrease.

Storm Shields for TWC went down to 5 pts so that is a 5pt saving given that SS is pretty popular on these guys.

I am not promising the Leviathan is unchanged. I think all the FW stuff is at the back in a separate section. I just did the highlights from the SW section.

Also our Frost weapons have gotten cheaper. They are just 1pt more than the corresponding power weapon which makes them pretty good for +1S.

I understand why jump packs sounds cool. But a giant freaking wolf is good. Also, the T5 is awsome. It used to rock back in 5th edition.

 Karhedron wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
I was shure we all waited for -twc decrease.

Storm Shields for TWC went down to 5 pts so that is a 5pt saving given that SS is pretty popular on these guys.

I am not promising the Leviathan is unchanged. I think all the FW stuff is at the back in a separate section. I just did the highlights from the SW section.

Also our Frost weapons have gotten cheaper. They are just 1pt more than the corresponding power weapon which makes them pretty good for +1S.

I have the book, no change on Leviathan, 175 base, storm cannons 50, so 303 total with flamers.

T5 is not anymore what it used to be, lasguns still wound you on 5+

Actually lasgunned wounded T5 on 5s back then as well.

New terrain rules are interesting, some terrain has a cover bubble so small pieces of it might become more common on tables which is good for melee armies but field terrain has mobility modifiers that will hurt melee armies and hurt them bad.
Space Wolves who already struggle getting into melee are going to hurt even worse.

 Niiai wrote:
Actually lasgunned wounded T5 on 5s back then as well.

I actually skipped 5th, but in all other editions except 8th S3 needed a 6+ vs T5 so I assume it was the same in 5th.

I want to like TWC, but seeing them fail game after game because of the Ruins rules and their large bases made it impossible. I also felt sorry for my opponent last time I faced TWC because I exploited those weakneses

 Karhedron wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
I was shure we all waited for -twc decrease.

Storm Shields for TWC went down to 5 pts so that is a 5pt saving given that SS is pretty popular on these guys.

I am not promising the Leviathan is unchanged. I think all the FW stuff is at the back in a separate section. I just did the highlights from the SW section.

Also our Frost weapons have gotten cheaper. They are just 1pt more than the corresponding power weapon which makes them pretty good for +1S.

I Appreciate the drop for Thunder cav SS but I think it’s stupid that it’s 5 and not 2 like other non characters. Especially since they can’t use terrain as well like others here have mentioned or go up levels on buildings.

Ah. Can mounted units not enter ruins? That changes a few things.

When I play I usually play Nids.

Yes they can. Chapter approved ruins rules say anything can go in ruins now but only infantry/swarms/beasts/or fly keyword can go to different levels of the ruins. Everything else has to stay on the bottom floor.