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I'm really tempted but at the same time its just not the right time for me to buy into this - I'll check it on the last day and see if I can resist if not I'll be on the front of the line when this launches in a few years.
JohnHwangDD wrote: The minis look great, but I just don't need it for $130 + S&H = $150.
That was my reasoning. If I had a use for the content outside of the boardgame I would be more willing to spend that but since it would just be paint for fun, which I already have way too much of, or play a game that doesn't interest me I can't justify it.
That was my reasoning. If I had a use for the content outside of the boardgame I would be more willing to spend that but since it would just be paint for fun, which I already have way too much of, or play a game that doesn't interest me I can't justify it.
I plan on using the minis for RPG's and wargaming, so it's a no-brainer for me. Basically the first thing I said when I saw the first Horizon trailer was "I need minis of these", so I've been waiting on this for a while.
It's also worth mentioning that the core pledge (the only pledge level) started with the core game and two expansions, plus KS exclusives, and SFG has confirmed that a bunch of the stretch goals comprise an entirely new expansion, so that will have additional content beyond just the models and their game material.
JohnHwangDD wrote: The minis look great, but I just don't need it for $130 + S&H = $150.
That was my reasoning. If I had a use for the content outside of the boardgame I would be more willing to spend that but since it would just be paint for fun, which I already have way too much of, or play a game that doesn't interest me I can't justify it.
It's a very fine toolbox if you intend to write a post-apocalypse game. The thing is, having gone through the exercise with KOG light (for Heavy Gear), and stalled (heh) on not-Car Wars, I'm not sure I'm inspired to buy it to write a game to play a year+ down the line.
Mysterio wrote: Those machine beasts though...so cool...so tempting...
This - esp since I don't own a current gen console and have wanted to play this game for AGES as I really love the style and world they've built and designed.
Mysterio wrote: Those machine beasts though...so cool...so tempting...
This - esp since I don't own a current gen console and have wanted to play this game for AGES as I really love the style and world they've built and designed.
Ditto.
still debating if i want to jump in with that mechaTrex
JohnHwangDD wrote: The minis look great, but I just don't need it for $130 + S&H = $150.
That was my reasoning. If I had a use for the content outside of the boardgame I would be more willing to spend that but since it would just be paint for fun, which I already have way too much of, or play a game that doesn't interest me I can't justify it.
It's a very fine toolbox if you intend to write a post-apocalypse game. The thing is, having gone through the exercise with KOG light (for Heavy Gear), and stalled (heh) on not-Car Wars, I'm not sure I'm inspired to buy it to write a game to play a year+ down the line.
yep, great selection of stuff but my gaming group is mostly RPGers and I don't ever really see us doing a post apocalyptic game mostly as I GM most stuff and don't care for those type of settings from an RPG stand point. If I thought I could use them for a miniature game I'd still be backing.
Hell, I'm thinking of just using the minis as stand-ins for existing figures in my usual board game; Shadows of Brimstone.
Either as reskins of existing comparable figures (so no extra work for me, maybe a few minor adaptations) or with a bit of design effort to create my own enemy sheets in line with existing content.
Most of my usual players have played HZD, so one day (in a few years) dropping a bunch of Watchers on the table would probably get a big response.
I watched the 45 min'ish gameplay video, and it seems intriguing. Not sure if it'll be a huge hit with my usual crew, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying it out a few times either.
I will say there's a little growing concern that the deal feels... too good. Over 100 minis, some of them quite substantial, for ~$200 Canadian, plus the cards and tiles and dice and whatnot? It both feels like I'd be crazy to skip it, while also "um, we are actively courting delays and snags", but that might just me being gunshy from some of the other KS debacles I've been a part of, not that it has stopped me yet.
Hadn't even thought of using this stuff in Brimstone. Maybe on the derelict ship tiles? Something techy... reactivated guardians in Targa? War machines of Trederra? Mechanical antibodies in the Belly of the Beast? Have them spill out into the canyons and mines while we're at it? Hmm...
At least the hunters from HZD will be a bit more sturdy than the resin Jargono natives we've got.
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Forar wrote: I will say there's a little growing concern that the deal feels... too good. Over 100 minis, some of them quite substantial, for ~$200 Canadian, plus the cards and tiles and dice and whatnot?
It's priced like a CMoN game: 100 minis for $100 (shipped), which became 120 minis for $120 (+S&H). The deal is fine, as they're also going to retail afterwards. It's not like this is their first rodeo.
If one of you SoCal guys wants to do some sort of split, I might be up for that.
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Forar wrote: I will say there's a little growing concern that the deal feels... too good. Over 100 minis, some of them quite substantial, for ~$200 Canadian, plus the cards and tiles and dice and whatnot?
It's priced like a CMoN game: 100 minis for $100 (shipped), which became 120 minis for $120 (+S&H). The deal is fine, as they're also going to retail afterwards. It's not like this is their first rodeo.
Except SFG isn't CMoN, just having a similar pricing structure doesn't mean they have everything else sorted out like a well oiled machine.
I've done some of the background research, glanced over Dark Souls, hell I even playtested Resident Evil at Gencon a couple of years ago. I get that this isn't some fly by night crew that's new in town, but I don't think it's unreasonable to see them adding dozens of figures (many of them sizable or complex or both) and figure this might be getting away from them, especially with the final stretch/burst yet to come.
Call it an abundance of caution. I'm still in (and yeah, $10 off for an Early Bird will keep me in until the very end when the 'go/no go' call has to be made), but I'm trying to keep my expectations realistic.
The old adage is 'good, fast, cheap, pick two'. I'm happy with good and cheap, and ~1.5 years for their delivery time frame doesn't seem terribly rushed by my amateur backer assessment, but I'd also hate to see later updates about how they're hitting snags/running out of funding/etc/etc/etc. There is a line here, 120 for $120, fine, but what if we get to 150, 180, 200+?
There is such a thing as 'too good a deal', and even if we're not there yet, I don't think a healthy sense of skepticism is a bad thing.
Overzealous eagerness and enthusiasm is how we both ended up spending half a decade in various RRT threads, after all. If they can continue to reassure us that things are great and that GG/Sony are actively beneficial, that's awesome.
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When I have concerns, I cap my spend and only back the core. Or, I look for a split, which I'm looking at here: $60 minis for $60 is not so unreasonable.
WRTRRT, I piggybacked for a split there, adding the Monster. No way was I backing a full pledge plus Monster.
Though seeing how my last few splits have gone, maybe I should wait for retail. Hm.
Forar wrote: I will say there's a little growing concern that the deal feels... too good. Over 100 minis, some of them quite substantial, for ~$200 Canadian, plus the cards and tiles and dice and whatnot?
It's priced like a CMoN game: 100 minis for $100 (shipped), which became 120 minis for $120 (+S&H). The deal is fine, as they're also going to retail afterwards. It's not like this is their first rodeo.
If one of you SoCal guys wants to do some sort of split, I might be up for that.
Looking for a split is great if you just want the figures. Splitting a game with someone is a bit more challenging if I plan to actually play the game as is. :-P
But for those just seeking a cut of the minis, yeah, that seems like a good way to minimize the risk, for sure. Other than a lot of the character models, the KS exclusives, and the Bellowback, so far everything else seems to come in groups of 2/4/6/tons. Depending on what people wanted, splitting it 2+ ways evenly or with some tweaking based on desires, that'd work out quite well.
Definitely not going all-in for this one, no matter my love of the setting/game. Currently just in for a core set, and maaaaaybe a Thunderjaw. It's too iconic to pass up, even if it adds another $60+ Canadian to the order (probably a bit more assuming it increases shipping as well).
But now that I think about it, it is pretty tempting to carve this deal up as a way to get fairly cheap figures for other games... hrm indeed...
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Yeah, I also ended up not staying in after panic-grabbing an EB...
Their posting that they might not deliver the KS before selling these at retail, combined with the really far out delivery date and number of other huge projects they've not yet fully delivered, just makes me not want to invest this far out.
To me, the deal isn't good enough to merit it... I've noticed in previous campaigns that that has been their push, that you're getting such a good deal it doesn't matter if it's delayed till after the retail release, etc. But it does to me... I'd rather pay a little more at retail (and honestly, maybe not that much more after discounts) and not be stuck waiting, and also relegated to after folks who didn't invest early...
Just my personal preference, and they're very straightforward in that if you feel that way, you shouldn't back. So that makes it an easier choice for me to wait, at least.
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JohnHwangDD wrote: Though seeing how my last few splits have gone, maybe I should wait for retail. Hm.
What happened with your last few splits ? Just thinking of doing my first but don't want headaches.
* Robotech RPG Tactics, got maybe 1/4 of what I was supposed to before Palladium decided they weren't going to deliver or refund.
* Relic Knigths was delayed by a year, and not a good game; we were lucky to sell off before the game crashed.
* Journey: Wrath of Demons, got the core game, played it, but we're still waiting on the expansions and SGs years later. Good for the creators that they're still trying to make a miracle happen and haven't pulled the plug.
* Super Dungeon Explore: Legends, waited and waited, saw it was all lies and going south, and grabbed a refund. Lucky, as a couple months later, Soda Pop Miniatures / Ninja Division decided they weren't going to accept or pay refunds.
* World of Smog: Rise of Moloch, which arrived as a co-op *after* we had started playing the vastly superior Kingdom Death: Monster, so WoS:RoM went on the block.
* Ogre Miniatures Set 2 arrived late, but I would have been willing to buy a full set and sell off the extras; splitting meant I just pre-sold the minis I didn't want.
My Spidey-sense of whether a game will fully deliver appears to be spot on, but my FOMO for pretty things caused me to waste a fair bit of time and money.
If I split on HZD with Bob & Tamburlane, that would be pretty cool. It looks like they raised $1.4M so far, with 3 days to go.
Gotta love how it takes 2 hands to maneuver the Thunderjaw onto the board.
Sucker is massive. If it's that detailed it would be a nice standalone piece for fans of the video game regardless of the board game's quality (which obviously the hope is that it's good).
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
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