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 Compel wrote:
On the egg front...

I've got a bit of a theory.

we know that the frog lady needs to keep herself, and her eggs warm.

We also know there's a lot of concern about the canister failing, with angry blinking lights.


Assuming Frog Lady is in the next episode, I think the Canister is going to fail, all her eggs will die.

Then, all of a sudden, Baby Yoda starts choking and squeaking and... out comes all the eggs its eaten. This is followed by a comment along the lines of "second stomach..."

I could see that in a series with a lighter tone overall (it would have worked in any of the animated shows) but would feel off here.

I doubt Mrs Frog will have much of a presence in the next episode. I'm expecting more that her story is done, and they'll start the next one with the ship landing and her scuttling off into the crowd with her canister.

 insaniak wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
Luke milking the creature during TLJ was nastier in a visceral way.

Are you vegan?

Honest question, as I can't see any other reason that scene would be 'nasty', and that reaction to it has always puzzled me.

No, but I don't drink milk.

1) That creature was nasty. Cows are not.
2) Raw milk is unsanitary.
3) The way Luke drank it was the Anticipation of Homelander's Fetish.

Edit:
I do sympathize with vegans because I'm not terribly fond of slaughtering animals for meat. Both because it causes the animal pain and because it's disgusting. Everything stinks inside. The sole problem I have with veganism as a diet is that it's nearly impossible to achieve with only locally sourced products. The end result is that the consumer is still relying on what I consider to be excessive shipping in order to get your food products. Meat or fish can be locally sourced pretty much anywhere.

 trexmeyer wrote:

No, but I don't drink milk.

1) That creature was nasty. Cows are not.
2) Raw milk is unsanitary.
3) The way Luke drank it was the Anticipation of Homelander's Fetish.

I can only assume you haven't spent much time around cows. Cows are nasty.

And raw milk is unsanitary if it's stored that way, but there is nothing like a hit of milk straight from the cow.

Unless it peed in it... Cows are nasty.

All farm animals are gross, but at least cows aren't giant amphibious things with creepy trunk faces that stare into your soul.

 trexmeyer wrote:
All farm animals are gross, but at least cows aren't giant amphibious things with creepy trunk faces that stare into your soul.

No, they're much, much worse....

Also, fwiw, I've definitely seen the "city folk" reaction when they see cows being milked. Usually from the same kind of people that can't tell the difference between a chicken and a duck.

 Compel wrote:
On the egg front...

I've got a bit of a theory.

we know that the frog lady needs to keep herself, and her eggs warm.

We also know there's a lot of concern about the canister failing, with angry blinking lights.


Assuming Frog Lady is in the next episode, I think the Canister is going to fail, all her eggs will die.

Then, all of a sudden, Baby Yoda starts choking and squeaking and... out comes all the eggs its eaten. This is followed by a comment along the lines of "second stomach..."

The eggs are definitely setting something up. As rumor has it:

I just realise that when the Mandalorian and the Child will have to split. I'll probably cry. They are so cute together.

I wouldn't worry, it won't happen til the last ever episode and Mando is totally buying the farm to complete his quest. They'll never be apart in the sense of "breaking up."

LunarSol wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
All farm animals are gross, but at least cows aren't giant amphibious things with creepy trunk faces that stare into your soul.

No, they're much, much worse....

Also, fwiw, I've definitely seen the "city folk" reaction when they see cows being milked. Usually from the same kind of people that can't tell the difference between a chicken and a duck.

I truly hate ducks and that I can identify multiple species. Chickens > Ducks. Mallards do look pretty neat though.

gorgon wrote:

 Compel wrote:
On the egg front...

I've got a bit of a theory.

we know that the frog lady needs to keep herself, and her eggs warm.

We also know there's a lot of concern about the canister failing, with angry blinking lights.


Assuming Frog Lady is in the next episode, I think the Canister is going to fail, all her eggs will die.

Then, all of a sudden, Baby Yoda starts choking and squeaking and... out comes all the eggs its eaten. This is followed by a comment along the lines of "second stomach..."

The eggs are definitely setting something up. As rumor has it:

Spoiler:

The child will be captured by Moff Gideon and sent to an Imperial detention facility staffed by a merciless captain and his guards. However, the child's carefree spirit and determination -- in one example, it consumes over 4 dozen eggs in a single sitting on a dare -- inspires the other prisoners.

Okay, you win.

epronovost wrote:
I just realise that when the Mandalorian and the Child will have to split. I'll probably cry. They are so cute together.

they are but the egg example is just the most obvious case of whhy the child really NEEDS a better caretaker. this isn't to say the Mando's a abd guy, but he's the wrong guy to be a father... at least to this child.

Yeah, it's weird given how Star Wars usually tries to make such wholesome family arrangements.

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, it's weird given how Star Wars usually tries to make such wholesome family arrangements.

Just to highlight exactly how bad it is:



So out of the Skywalker family (Anakin's mom, Anakin, Padme, Luke, Leia, Han, and Kylo) exactly one of them dies of natural causes.

Although, to be fair, aside from the whole 'being orphans' thing, Luke and Leia did at least supposedly have fairly ok upbringings up until their respective guardians were killed.

 LunarSol wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
All farm animals are gross, but at least cows aren't giant amphibious things with creepy trunk faces that stare into your soul.

No, they're much, much worse....

Also, fwiw, I've definitely seen the "city folk" reaction when they see cows being milked. Usually from the same kind of people that can't tell the difference between a chicken and a duck.

Not milked, but I can definitely say that video of slaughter houses and such turns my stomach. I still eat meat. Call me a sissy, I love the taste but I don't have the courage for how it's made XD Might be why I'm totally sympathetic to vegans and vegetarians. I get it.

 trexmeyer wrote:
All farm animals are gross, but at least cows aren't giant amphibious things with creepy trunk faces that stare into your soul.

Ah, this explains why I just see them as big, dumb and rather heavy gross animals. No "soul" for them to see into.

Chapter 11 was rather good, if a wee bit short at just 35 minutes.

Will need to watch it again, but for all it’s brevity, it didn’t feel rushed nor incomplete. Which I guess is to be applauded. If you can spin your tale in 35 minutes, why pad it to a “series average”?

Re-watched the episode - the egg thing is less horrifying second time around. But I think I've worked out why the tone seems so "off" to me.

A lot of comic relief in Star Wars is at the expense of droids, who if we (out of universe) think of for even a few minutes will realise are slaves and that we're being invited to joke along with a pretty downtrodden underclass. Human or other "biological" life form slaves are never the butt of jokes in Star Wars.

However, people "in universe" in Star Wars have a slightly odd attitude to Droids. They either like them almost as pets (in the best case) or almost treat them as glorified can openers.

There's a bit of a disconnect there - we know that, if Droids were real in our universe, the way that they're treated in the Star Wars universe would be utterly reprehensible. Because of the disconnection between the two, there's a level of suspension of disbelief, reminding you (or me, at least) subliminally that it's just a movie and hence it's OK to laugh. It's like Tom getting hit on the head with an anvil while chasing Jerry. In reality that wouldn't be much of a laughing matter.

The thing with the eggs is that, IN UNIVERSE, the Mando thinks that this is unacceptable behaviour. This is a man who disintegrates Jawas for Grand Theft Auto. Who strings people from lamp-posts to be eaten by dogs. Who, in the opening scene of the entire series, cuts someone in half with a door. And when he discovers what the Child's up to, it's not a "sigh, that was against the contract, bit of a nuisance" - it's a horrified "How many did you EAT???"

In the Star Wars universe, something is regarded as unacceptable. In our universe, if there were frog people, it would likely also be regarded as unacceptable. That (to me, at least) is what makes it difficult to find the humour. There's less suspension of disbelief. YMMV.

Thought it was a good episode for 35 mins, but in my opinion felt a little rushed. The episode definitely doesn't suit new viewers as has been the case for most of the series so far.

R.I.P. Hover Carriage.

Oh, it's the Sasha Banks episode.

Partially spoiler description of the episode


One writing thing that I have started to hate is how the Mandalorian will make some comment that amounts to "There is a 95% chance we are going to die horribly in this situation" and then 5 seconds later goes and does it with no further thought or planning. Maybe he's supposed to have a personality like Eeyore or he's suicidal, I don't know, but it's off putting when it feels like every episode turns into 'Well, hope I don't die!"

Edit: Maybe don't watch the episode with subtitles on, it spoilered a character name for me. This was the most eventful plot episode of the season.

The episode at least provides a bare bones but productive answer to all the ways Mando clashes with past Mandolorian characters that I appreciate given the recent discussion of the franchise's lack of consistency.

Watching this show makes me want to go roll a Bounty Hunter on SWTOR again.


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 LordofHats wrote:
The episode at least provides a bare bones but productive answer to all the ways Mando clashes with past Mandolorian characters that I appreciate given the recent discussion of the franchise's lack of consistency.

Spoiler:

He's basically a cultist XD It's bare bones but it works. Maybe we'll see character development and he'll actually take his helmet off from time to time.

Also,

I wasn't too thrilled by this one, there was a lot of exposition and it all came out quick like they were pressed for time - but the episode is on the shorter side already - there's a scene in the concept art montage not present in the final episode, maybe it was going to be a setpiece that would have padded out the runtime and was cut for some reason?

 trexmeyer wrote:
Watching this show makes me want to go roll a Bounty Hunter on SWTOR again.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 LordofHats wrote:
The episode at least provides a bare bones but productive answer to all the ways Mando clashes with past Mandolorian characters that I appreciate given the recent discussion of the franchise's lack of consistency.

Spoiler:

He's basically a cultist XD It's bare bones but it works. Maybe we'll see character development and he'll actually take his helmet off from time to time.

Also,

Spoiler:

there's a clear gap in their method of operating based on the ship attack where Mando was lagging behind. I wish they had done fire and movement, but Star Wars is never going to use RW military tactics.

As an aside;

 LordofHats wrote:
As an aside;

Spoiler:

Was that Sabine with Bo-Katan, cause that girl has hair suspiciously similar to Sabine's mom but she clearly doesn't have Sabine's artistic sense so I'm not sure.

I completely did NOT recognise Katee Sackhoff in that episode at all. With Battlestar, Flash, Star Wars, all she really needs now is Star Trek to complete the collection.

It definitely felt like a hurried episode, there could certainly have been a few more talky bits in it.

Aside from that though, I had *huge* Dark Forces vibes from it. Definitely more than a few times I felt 'this is Star Wars' from it.

I have to wonder why she hasn't had more/better opportunities...along with most of the BSG main cast. Did that series have critically acclaimed acting or am I losing my mind? You'd think that having a series noted for good acting would require good actors...and that other producers/directors would want said actors.

Did Bo-Katan ever meet Yoda?

I don’t think so? I’m fairly sure she predominantly (if not exclusively) dealt with Obi Wan, Anakin and Ashoka?

 trexmeyer wrote:
I have to wonder why she hasn't had more/better opportunities...along with most of the BSG main cast. Did that series have critically acclaimed acting or am I losing my mind? You'd think that having a series noted for good acting would require good actors...and that other producers/directors would want said actors.

There's usually more things to it than that, not everyone gets to be a superstar.

For example, Michael Hogan, who played Saul Tigh, has suffered such a bad injury that his family has had no choice but to start a gofundme. - And he was, no doubt, a long running successful character actor. Yet, still not enough to fund his healthcare in America.