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 warboss wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
They were unfertilized eggs. What, none of you eat eggs?

I think it's that there's a distinction between eggs that are made to be eaten, and eggs that someone is explicitly trying to get fertilized and apparently considers their last chance to not die out.

I'd offer that no animal lays eggs specifically to be eaten; they're all made explicitly to be fertilized. The fact that other animals eat them (fertilized or not) is simply a part of the other species biology. That said... you'd expect there to be a difference when the species laying them and the species eatng them are obviously thinking beings but I don't think Baby Yoda is developed enough mentally to make that connection. He likely just sees them as yet another tasty snack similar to a human baby will try to chew on a dog's ear without considering the consequences. About the closest human adult comparison would be swallowing after... you know...

Actually some amphibians do, laying eggs specifically to be eaten by their own tadpoles some are infertile (eg https://frogblogmanchester.com/2014/03/), some cold develop given he right conditions (can' find a link as here are too many how to keep tadpoles for schools on google, but they do exist)

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 trexmeyer wrote:


Edit: To clarify. Can you identify a moral position that occurs in the Star Wars films that both deviates from modern Western morality AND is at least implicitly condoned by the protagonists?

No, because "morality" is not objective.

Okay, I'm going to attempt to remain as civil as possible, but you are the one that started us down this road.

What part of my post suggests that I believe morality is objective?

Secondly, what part of that question is overly complicated? Multiple other people were perfectly capable of understanding and responding to that question with reasonable examples and yet by some thought process that I can not understand your response is:

No, because "morality" is not objective.

Can you please walk me through how the question I posed leads to that answer? I specified modern Western morality. Not Judeo-Christian morality. Not Islamic morality. I literally stated in the question that morality is subjective and you have the gall to respond with that nonsense.

I don't get the fuss with the eggs. They are unfertilised eggs. To me it's like being pissed at having someone eat my nail clipping or suckling at a used tampon (gross, but certainly not immoral). You can't even argue that he's eating a fetus since they aren't fertilised so its more like eating a placenta. Plus, do you seriously think that this frog lady is going to raise three dozen children? Of course not, most of her youngs will probably either never hatch of die shortly after of pretty much anything and all the better for her since she can't really take care of so many social and intelligent children. Plus, the wishful mother herself didn't make a fuss or any mention of it even though she lost at least three eggs. If they were that precious, she would keep close tab on their numbers and would have noticed. She spawns. She doesn't care about a couuple of eggs here and there, especially unfertilised ones. She cares about her brood in general.

Mind you we are talking about the morality of a baby eating unfertilised eggs without asking permission while 20 minutes earlier, the Mandalorian killed four guys in front of the Child, including one after "making a deal with him" and an episode prior, he basically lied and left a bunch of alien dogs tear a guy who tried to kill him appart. The Mandalorian might not be a psychotic killer, but he isn't "a good guy". He is a bounty hunter, a killer for hire, with some personnal code to make him palatable.

Man, if this isnt Star Wars fans in a nutshell.
Taking a small part of something meant for laughs and jokes....and blowing it up.
Its a tiny little baby alien eating the eggs of another alien.
Just enjoy the joke. drama between him an Mando lol

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Man, if this isnt Star Wars fans in a nutshell.
Taking a small part of something meant for laughs and jokes....and blowing it up.
Its a tiny little baby alien eating the eggs of another alien.
Just enjoy the joke. drama between him an Mando lol

Yeah, you are indeed very correct.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Man, if this isnt Star Wars fans in a nutshell.
Taking a small part of something meant for laughs and jokes....and blowing it up.
Its a tiny little baby alien eating the eggs of another alien.
Just enjoy the joke. drama between him an Mando lol

Small part strikes me as being an understatement. How many times did he eat eggs?
Also, just because it was meant as a joke does not mean it is in good taste or even funny.

It's times like these that I remember that "fan" is actually short for "fanatic", and it all falls quite normally into place, then.

"fanatic", "zealot", whatevs. They all focus on the minutiae waaaaay too much and even us filthy "casual" not-true-fans have our eyes glaze over ...

 Graphite wrote:
The other really worrying question is - who was in that stew Yoda tried to feed to Luke?

Some Gungan former senator he found wandering the swamp.

At least that's my new head canon.

They’re making a Pop! toy of Baby Yoda with the egg canister.

Ok. So, of those people here who did think this was actually funny (rather than, at best, an attempted joke which didn't land for some and downright offensive for others) who thinks it was funny enough to make actual merchandise of it?

 Graphite wrote:
Ok. So, of those people here who did think this was actually funny (rather than, at best, an attempted joke which didn't land for some and downright offensive for others) who thinks it was funny enough to make actual merchandise of it?

I thought it was cute and humourous. I can understand them making merch' out of it.

MarkNorfolk wrote:

 Graphite wrote:
Ok. So, of those people here who did think this was actually funny (rather than, at best, an attempted joke which didn't land for some and downright offensive for others) who thinks it was funny enough to make actual merchandise of it?

I thought it was cute and humourous. I can understand them making merch' out of it.

Same

I'm going to guess that most who weren't offended are fine with merch, because they feel there truly is no big deal here.

 Graphite wrote:
Ok. So, of those people here who did think this was actually funny (rather than, at best, an attempted joke which didn't land for some and downright offensive for others) who thinks it was funny enough to make actual merchandise of it?

It’s part of The Child’s character.

Again, it’s a signifier to the audience, rather than the Mando, that the kid is fairly, well, I’m not quite sure amoral is the right word for one so young. But he’s clearly still to learn right from wrong.

So far, he’s used The Force a handful of times. First to assist against that Mudhorn, lifting it into the air whilst arresting its charge, allowing the Mando to take it out. He then sees the egg the Mando was after being unceremoniously scoffed by Jawas.

He next (if memory serves) used it to Force Choke Cara Dune, perceiving her as a threat. Mando intervenes, and all is well.

Then, we saw him deflect the flames, saving the group at the end of the last season.

He also likes his live food. And bone broth.

Whilst the Mando does say “no, don’t eat that”, there’s a classical parenting fail of not explaining why.

The kids need morals. He’s currently a (hungry) blank slate, with a Toddler like mentality.

I also agree with MDG, FWIW. The baby isn't Yoda, and could go any number of ways.

For the record, Chapter 10 of #TheMandalorian makes it clear that the Frog Lady’s eggs are unfertilized, like the chicken eggs many of us enjoy. But obviously, chickens aren’t sentient beings and the Child eating the eggs is intentionally disturbing, for comedic effect.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1325913062826651648


If you didn't find it funny, that's fine, but FFS can we stop talking about it now?

 Azreal13 wrote:



If you didn't find it funny, that's fine, but FFS can we stop talking about it now?

So, who's making you discuss it? Do you expect everyone to simply discuss what you want?

 Hulksmash wrote:

MarkNorfolk wrote:

 Graphite wrote:
Ok. So, of those people here who did think this was actually funny (rather than, at best, an attempted joke which didn't land for some and downright offensive for others) who thinks it was funny enough to make actual merchandise of it?

I thought it was cute and humourous. I can understand them making merch' out of it.

Same

add me to the list.

 trexmeyer wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:



If you didn't find it funny, that's fine, but FFS can we stop talking about it now?

So, who's making you discuss it? Do you expect everyone to simply discuss what you want?

That would be great, thanks.

To change things up, I’m really loving my Fridays right now, despite lockdown. In order of watch priority, I’ve got....

1. The Mandalorian
2. Star Trek Discovery
3. Walking Dead The World Beyond

I’d also have 4. Supernatural, but I was watching that as “our show” with my lass before lockdown, so I’m holding off until we can see each other. Maybe have a slob day in bed watching it to catch up.

how many episodes are out so far ?

Of Supernatural? Prime has made six available as of last Friday, having added 3, 4, 5 and 6.

Trev and I watched 1 and 2 the weekend before lockdown, so we’re amassing a decent watching block.

The mandalorioan..

2 of 8, third at 8am Friday.

thanks.

I hate quarantine. I thought today was Wednesday.

My last comment on the egg eating. I'll grant it this much...Jabba feeding dancers to the Rancor was and is much more vile and that physically upset me as a child. Luke milking the creature during TLJ was nastier in a visceral way.

I’ll say this for what Luke did, though: we all know that creature was into it.

On the egg front...

I've got a bit of a theory.

we know that the frog lady needs to keep herself, and her eggs warm.

We also know there's a lot of concern about the canister failing, with angry blinking lights.


Assuming Frog Lady is in the next episode, I think the Canister is going to fail, all her eggs will die.

Then, all of a sudden, Baby Yoda starts choking and squeaking and... out comes all the eggs its eaten. This is followed by a comment along the lines of "second stomach..."

 trexmeyer wrote:
My last comment on the egg eating. I'll grant it this much...Jabba feeding dancers to the Rancor was and is much more vile and that physically upset me as a child. Luke milking the creature during TLJ was nastier in a visceral way.

I think we can agree that Jabba's not meant to be remotely sympathetic and his actions play into illustrating how vile and repulsive he is as a person, not just by association with his position as a galactic ganster. I know there's a lot of contention about the milking thing but I always took that to be deliberately demystifying the idea someone living off the land as a hermit.

I want to be clear here: I appreciate that we're able to discuss the content of this episode and whether or not it goes too far based on how we feel about it. We may not ultimately agree but at least we're arguing based on the merits of the work, which Star Wars doesn't always get. I went on twitter trying to find the release date for the Alphabet Squadron book and stumbled upon this long thread of people bragging about having never read it because a character on the cover has an undercut (actually a mohawk, but wahtever); literally judging a book by it's cover and bragging about it.

Anyway, next episode's going to have a boat, yeah?

 trexmeyer wrote:
Luke milking the creature during TLJ was nastier in a visceral way.

Are you vegan?

Honest question, as I can't see any other reason that scene would be 'nasty', and that reaction to it has always puzzled me.