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2020/11/27 21:39:10
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
Was it just me or were Asoka's horns made of foam rubber? I could not stop seeing the wrinkles in them. I thought they were supposed to be bone. Should have used some solid prosthetics.
They're tentacles, not bone. I assumed the wrinkles were deliberate.
They didn't look like skin either, they looked like foam rubber...
I don't think Ahsoka ever met Yaddle. Padawans didn't often get to interact with the council of masters.
Yoda, yes. She often had one-on-one dealings with the small green one and had met several other masters, as well as "council" members (Plo Koon being the first one she'd met, since he's the one who "found" her.).
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2020/11/27 22:06:29
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
insaniak wrote: Yaddle retired from the council somewhere between Ep1 and Ep2. It's entirely possible that Ahsoka never met her.
Retired? More like dead in a flashy bang.
It was in one of the YA series of novels they did; admittingly, that's non-canon nowadays. But it was Anakin's fault, so you can add that to his list of screw ups.
Loved the no messing around with the episode. No, big drawn out hunt before the pay off that we've been waiting for - straight to the bottom kicking bit. Cool.
Like Mad Doc, I thought that I'd got a handle on who she was trying to find. Have to admit, a rather rude word was said when we found out who it actually was.
The only thing that I want out of this show is for it to get released on Blu Ray in the future (once the Mouse is convinced that it's squeezed all of the subscription money out of it). I'd like to have something more permanent and tangible to preserve it because it's the best thing that I've watched, like, forever.
2020/11/27 22:12:33
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
It was in one of the YA series of novels they did; admittingly, that's non-canon nowadays. But it was Anakin's fault, so you can add that to his list of screw ups.
Yeah, the current canon is that she stepped back from Jedi business, and nobody knows what actually happened to her.
2020/11/27 22:20:04
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
This show just gets better and better. As far as I’m concerned, it’s the real sequel series.
I’ve got a couple of issues with
Spoiler:
Thrawn
as a character though:
Spoiler:
He’s a non human imperial. A high ranking non human imperial. A non human imperial who almost looks human but not quite. And an admiral, a military officer, who acts more like a sort of spy master. I mean that can happen yeah but...
All these things together scream to me ‘dodgy fan fiction’ material.
2020/11/27 22:22:31
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
I think Ashoka's head business cannot be bone. She wouldn't be able to move her head if it was. They have to be some kind of malleable. While yeah it looked like foam rubber, it's basically impossible for us to know what alien whatever the hell that is is supposed to look like. Especially when going from 3d not super detailed animation to live action so I give it all a pass.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
2020/11/27 22:46:18
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
No, the Montrals are the top two cones. The Lekku hang down.
Togrutas were a sentient species from the planet Shili. They were characterized by their colorful skin tones, large montrals and head tails, and white facial pigments, which served to hide them from predators
Future War Cultist wrote: This show just gets better and better. As far as I’m concerned, it’s the real sequel series.
I’ve got a couple of issues with
Spoiler:
Thrawn
as a character though:
Spoiler:
He’s a non human imperial. A high ranking non human imperial. A non human imperial who almost looks human but not quite. And an admiral, a military officer, who acts more like a sort of spy master. I mean that can happen yeah but...
All these things together scream to me ‘dodgy fan fiction’ material.
Almost didn't put this is spoiler tags, but I realize it actually addresses the episode in question, so...
Spoiler:
Now, the non-human part is not as much of an issue as it could be, depending on how they're following the sea of ink spill on RPG books, games and novels. Somewhere in that mess, 'non-humans' and 'near-humans' got lumped into distinct categories, and get different levels of discrimination. But Thrawn is also functionally a semi-secret Grand Admiral, and is defending the Empire against unspecified things out in the dark reaches of the galaxy and would have been wasted against the Rebellion because secret threat reasons. [Which probably got explained at some point, but I honestly don't care]
But Thrawn _is_ dodgy fan fiction. He's a 'super genius' that basically got his position by being favored of the Emperor.
In the books where he's introduced, it starts absurd, and gets worse. He can predict military strategy by studying a species art. In one example, by studying holo-recordings of a species' art, he knows that they 'always turn left' when exiting hyperspace. Even though most of the art he was studying was pre-spaceflight, and how he knows the commander is making the precise judgement calls on navigation and etc. So he's able to ambush them... its just weird, wacky crap. Every alien races is completely one-dimensional, so he can formulate exact strategies against them that only fail when an unknown variable is introduced. Basically if he can spend a couple weeks in the National Gallery of Art, he can out maneuver any army or fleet. Even if the commander's themselves have no particular knowledge of or connection to their art movements, or are from a different sub-culture or background. If a Rodian grows up on the streets of Corellia, who's art tradition matters?
Add the super assassins he got from Vader, and the magic ability to utilize tech in ways no one thought of over the course of 10,000 years of galactic history, has secret bases and clones, and ugh... Thrawn. All the cliches.
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2020/11/28 02:37:17
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
trexmeyer wrote: No, the Montrals are the top two cones. The Lekku hang down.
Togrutas were a sentient species from the planet Shili. They were characterized by their colorful skin tones, large montrals and head tails, and white facial pigments, which served to hide them from predators
My understanding is Lekku are very sensitive organs that serve a very particular purpose for the Twilek species. Nerves in them amount to extra neurons like how a octopus has most of it's neurons in it's arms. What Ahsoka has is not Lekku. They very well might be some kind of "head tail" but that doesn't make them that very particular organ. And nothing in that link says that they are.
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2020/11/28 09:37:37
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
trexmeyer wrote: No, the Montrals are the top two cones. The Lekku hang down.
Togrutas were a sentient species from the planet Shili. They were characterized by their colorful skin tones, large montrals and head tails, and white facial pigments, which served to hide them from predators
My understanding is Lekku are very sensitive organs that serve a very particular purpose for the Twilek species. Nerves in them amount to extra neurons like how a octopus has most of it's neurons in it's arms. What Ahsoka has is not Lekku. They very well might be some kind of "head tail" but that doesn't make them that very particular organ. And nothing in that link says that they are.
Dude, really? Maybe Wookiepedia is wrong. I don't know, but according to that source, Togruta have lekku.
Lekku (singular lek), also referred to as head-tails, were long, fleshy appendages that protruded from the head of all Twi'leks, Togrutas and male Ozrelanso. The Togrutas sported three of them, while the other species had two (occasionally four, in the case of Twi'leks).
The name "lekku" was also used to describe the striped head-tails of the Togrutas. That species, however, had three such appendages: two lekku to the front, falling over the chest, and one thicker lek that was centered at the rear base of their skull.[9] As seen on Governor Roshti, a male Togruta's lekku were shorter than those of a female.[10] The color of a Togruta's lekku was determined by their DNA,[9] and they grew as their wearer matured. In adolescence, the head-tails extended only slightly past the collarbones, but could reach below the waist by adulthood.[11]
Y'know the bit in Rogue One, where Darth Vader tears through the reble troopers and shows just how utterly terrifying the Sith are against normal people?
We just saw the Jedi equivalent. Awesome.
2020/11/29 20:57:30
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
In terms of Grand Admiral Thrawn, is this revealing a bigger big bad than Moff Gideon?
I’m 50/50 on that count. For a start. I’m not sure who holds rank in that duo. Moff Gideon may pip Thrawn, simply because a Moff is in charge of a sector/sub sector. But post-Endor, one suspects authority is primarily derived from one’s assets.
My other ‘hmmm’ thought basically boils down to Willy Waving. There’ll be Imperial warlords all clamouring to become the new Emperor. So there’s nothing to say Gideon and Thrawn would work together anyway.
There’s also, canonically, Thrawn’s rather dubious dedication to The Empire. Sure, he was loyal to Palpatine, but only because Thrawn was Up To Something. He is ultimately loyal to himself, then the Chiss. At least that’s my impression - but I think I’m a book or two behind?
Then we have repeated (but as far as I’m aware, currently unsubstantiated) rumours of a Rebels sequel show?
The more I think about this, the more theories pop into my head. So will leave it here for now! Feel free to chime in though.
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In terms of Grand Admiral Thrawn, is this revealing a bigger big bad than Moff Gideon? .
I don't think so. I'm expecting an Ahsoka spin-off, with Moff Gideon remaining the big bad for the Mandalorian, at least until Bo-Katan fights him for the darksaber. Then a new big bad introduced as the current boss of Mandalore for the Mandalorians to gang up on.
I could also see them introducing a Deathwatch boss to go up against Bo-Katan at some point along the way, to give Din one of those 'Where do your loyalties lie?' quandries.
2020/11/30 00:23:30
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
Ahsoka was designed as a cartoon but I think the character transferred to live action mostly successfully. A big part of the success was the design of her clothing. She seems to be essentially wearing hakama. This gave her a genre-appropriate and interesting profile.
Manchu wrote: I despise Thrawn. What a worthless character.
Having no exposure to him outside of Rebels, I thought he worked well there as an actually capable Imperial officer.
He did seem over the top only in comparison to the hilariously incapable officers the Empire is usually shown to have, but on his own I have no issues with him. That said, the description earlier in the thread from his novels doesn't sound all that great.
Given how Rebels ends it makes sense that subsequent shows would feature him in some capacity. Frankly I'm very happy with how Filoni's shows have recurring appearances and establish continuity that way. Having the shows and movies from Episode 1 to Mandalorian mesh into one continuous story appeals to me.
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2020/11/30 15:54:48
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
Voss wrote: [Which probably got explained at some point, but I honestly don't care]
For anyone who does care:
Spoiler:
When Thrawn's fanfictioning got to the point of "was actually the hero all along" we learn he was defending the Galaxy against the Vong, who probably wouldn't have destroyed the Galaxy if they had just let the Thrawn run the Empire.
I'm of two minds on Thrawn. For one, I get and appreciate his initial appeal. He was a big subversion on his release, being a bad guy who was competent in an era of incompetent evil. He would run away when outmatched rather than blindly pursue heroes that posed no real threat to his plans. That was his appeal but for a bunch of people this translated into "the most brilliant strategist that has ever existed". Similar to the Sherlock effect this got worse the more people tried to replicate this feeling. He's a good bad guy, but like many of his ilk, his reputation in the fandom can greatly exceed his reality.
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Voss wrote: Add the super assassins he got from Vader]
These are so funny simply because they're a great reminder of how much the franchise changed after his inclusion. These things were actually written to be Sith because back when the book was written, Sith, much like Darth, was a term that had no specific meaning. Both were just cool titles attributed to Vader, but neither had any actual association with the Dark Side beyond sounding vaguely evil. So Zahn decided the Sith were these assassin aliens and Vader was their dark lord and then Lucas said no because he was writing the prequels and that was probably going to be the name for evil Jedi and Darth was going to be a title for mastery in that order which were things a lot of fans had kind of decided for themselves but didn't have any official answer on until the prequels. In all reality Darth was probably just the first name given to the character initially. Darth Vader, son of Bob and Sara Vader.
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2020/11/30 17:00:58
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
I enjoyed Thrawn. He was a bit ridiculous, but he needed to be in order to seem a threat in a galaxy of space wizards and robots. As a space opera big bad, I still prefer him to any of the prequel or sequel villains.
That said, my favorite Thrawn story is the duology where Thrawn was dead the entire time.
I never watched most of the Clone Wars series so I dont know how they portrayed thrawn in them, but the original thrawn from the EU was an amazing villain.
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2020/12/01 00:38:40
Subject: Re:Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
I know the first of the "disney canon" thrawn novels was pretty good. in that it's clear to me that he was being written as "what if sherlock holmes was an Imperial admiral?"
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2020/12/01 01:40:13
Subject: Star Wars :The Mandalorian : season 2 trailer p#34
