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The James Mangold sounds like it could be great, and I expect the Dave Filoni one to feel like a feature length episode of the Mandalorian.

The last one is curious. I suspect this is what the sequel trilogy should have been - Luke rebuilding the Jedi Order 15-25 years after RotJ and defending it against those who wish to tear it down. The concept has potential, but I suspect it will just be a reminder of what could (and arguably should) have been.

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It's nice of Disney to tease Ahsoka, but you know, they can save themselves the trouble. I'm going to watch it anyway. Mission accomplished. Might as well release it already.

 Gert wrote:
Different droids one could argue. His general dislike might be gone but the hatred of the droids that burned his home and killed his family isn't likely to go away.


Alternatively he's learned to deal with particular, individual droids in a controlled environment but seeing a society that basically gave up its citizens' independence to vital reliance on droids freaks him out and he reacts, let's say, very honestly.

Aash wrote:
The last one is curious. I suspect this is what the sequel trilogy should have been - Luke rebuilding the Jedi Order 15-25 years after RotJ and defending it against those who wish to tear it down. The concept has potential, but I suspect it will just be a reminder of what could (and arguably should) have been.


It's a tough one. It builds on a very divisive foundation. I don't know the director, but because once upon a time after I learned that J.J. Abrams wasn't directing Episode 8 I carelessly said whatever, it can't get worse, I am fully prepared to keep my mouth shut and wait for another hold my beer moment.

Should have done a Finn movie instead, honestly.

As for the other two, Filoni's is bound to be entertaining, so no complaints from me. And the other one had better be a cave dwelling hobo who tries and fails to lift a rock with his mind for three hours straight, with a post credit scene where the rock jitters just a little bit. But more likely, and I don't enjoy drawing on the negative experience of the sequel trilogy here, it's just a super hero origin story and the first Jedi dude is going to know all the tricks before the movie is over.

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Don’t forget Jedi is singular and plural.

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So a commune of hobos who fail to move a rock one after another and yell at each other over every new failure? Sure, why not.

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Space.

Space Hobos.

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Being a bit more serious, is that actually assured? I don't know my history that well, but that must be in the pioneering days of space flight and not all the big species would be about at that time?

So depending on who they are, they might actually be ground bound mystics?

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It does say the first JEDI, not the first Force User/s. It’s the origin story of a religious order.

 
   
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Good point. Still, we'll have to see if that's going to be a meaningful distinction. I could see a desire to glamorize the Jedi by having them pioneer Force mastery.

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 Geifer wrote:
Good point. Still, we'll have to see if that's going to be a meaningful distinction. I could see a desire to glamorize the Jedi by having them pioneer Force mastery.


Could go the way of Imperial Psykers. Finding a way to positively channel those otherworldly abilities for the benefit of wider society.

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All of those sound terrible to me.

The only Star Wars movie that interested me was the Rogue Squadron that they teased, and have now dumped.

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So, turning to the Ahsoka trailer and what it might be harbinger of.

1. Thrawn seems to be in the trailer. Possibly in flashback.

2. Heir to the Empire is mentioned - which I think was the books with Joruus C’Boath?

3. Dark Jedi/Sith. Some kind of master and apprentice? Do these ring any bells from the Old EU?

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Heir to the Empire was the first book of the Thrawn trilogy. It's a nice Easter Egg.

I think I've watched the Ahsoka trailer 5 times already. I'm really really looking forward to that show, but I have to temper my expectations with the unfortunate truth that most D+ shows (and especially Star Wars D+ shows) really suck. I so do hope that they have a full story to tell, rather than 3 and a half episodes of story stretched over 10 episodes.

Acolyte I don't know enough about to really care. Skeleton Crew isn't even something we know much about. More Andor? Cool. The episodes where things happened were great, and I'm hopeful that in Season 2 they'll finally reveal what the point of all the Mon Mothma time wasting was. What else is there... oh yeah... a Rey movie. Nah. I liked Rey in TFA, but then they fethed up her character completely. Don't need another movie of her never struggling at anything, always succeeding at whatever she's trying to do, and pulling new skill and abilities completely out of her ass without any effort or training. Got enough of that in the two worst SW movies ever made.

But hey, Ahsoka. Live action Hera, Sabine, CH0P, Thrawn and even Ezra (eventually). I'll hold onto that hope, no matter how flimsy it may be...

From IGN:

IGN wrote:"I really wanted to delve into the Star Wars universe and tell the story of this entire world that I loved so much from the perspective of the bad guys," Headland said. "What I pitched to Kathleen [Kennedy] was Frozen meets Kill Bill. Shockingly, she didn't kick me out of the building… This is when the bad guys are outnumbered. They are the underdogs. I'm really excited for you guys to see things you haven't seen in live action yet."
I just don't believe this for one second. I don't believe that Disney would allow a bad-guy centric story that doesn't at least involve someone changing side to the good guys. They've yet to manage it, even in Squadrons it happened. As soon as Reva appeared in the Obi-Wan trailer I knew that (firstly) a good chunk of the show would be about her, and not Obi-Wan and that (more importantly) she would switch sides. Battlefront managed to have Iden Verso be a bad guy for all of 8 seconds. This show has to convince me that it's not another bait'n'switch.

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This episode of Mandalorian wasn't bad.
It might've been the worst one since the episode that introduced Fennec Shand in season 1. Or the season opener where Mando only trusts the IG unit until he gets a new droid in the second episode and forgets all about the original side-quest he started in ep one (that's gonna bug him, having that quest still active in his Quest Log but being unable to complete it because he already completed the story mission it relates to with a different droid! ).

A complete "We'd love to help you, but complete our side-quest first!" set-up, which is just tiresome at this point given how much time they've wasted telling very little story this season so far. It commits the sin that crime shows with big-name guest actors do, where the big name guest actor is probably the one that's guilty - so, yeah, who else would it be but Christopher Lloyd's character? - and then we get droid bars, droid bar cards, nano-machines (son!), and then, to top it all off, the show wastes yet another big set up, this time the conflict over the Darksaber.

There was a real point of conflict. Bo needs it. Dinn has it. She has to win it in combat. They've become solid allies. Will she turn on him? Will he take a fall in a fight? Would that make it legitimate? How will they resolve this very interesting plot development set up at the end of Season 2... oh no he finds a mind numbing loophole and just gives it to her. Ok. Sure. It could be worse. They could completely invalidate the purpose of the first two seasons in a different show... no wait they did that as well in The Crime Lord of No Crime.

And SOD-breaking stunt casting certainly didn't help either.

This show has 2 more episodes to get to the fething point.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This show has 2 more episodes to get to the fething point.


Okay, so room for another side quest and a half. Because the point of this season seems to be for Bo-Katan to reclaim the Darksaber, the throne and all of Mandalore. Which as it turns out is super easy, barely an inconvenience. No reason to waste lots of screen time on that.

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*squints*

What the hell is Lana Beniko doing in that trailer?

   
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Is that Ray Stevenson as what appears to be a Dark Jedi?

Hopefully is, been a fan of his since he was Titus Pullo on HBO's Rome.

edit: quick Google says "Yep".

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It might've been the worst one since the episode that introduced Fennec Shand in season 1.


Maybe I just like police procedurals XD

But I stand by it! I think the only reason the episode comes off badly is because of it's place in the season and the season being so lackluster. In terms of plot and set up, it was the most S1 episode of the show since season 1.

I also didn't notice Jack Black was even in the episode but I don't follow famous people all that closely so it's probably easy for me to not care who they are XD

   
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I definitely recognized Jack Black immediately. Even at first glance from a distance I was like Wait, was that him? It’s him! I’m not terribly familiar with Lizzo though so that one escaped me until I read who she was afterwards.

 
   
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I definitely recognized Jack Black immediately. Even at first glance from a distance I was like Wait, was that him? It’s him! I’m not terribly familiar with Lizzo though so that one escaped me until I read who she was afterwards.


I did recognized Jack Black, but frankly, maybe it's just me, but I don't care about celebrity casting. To me they are just actors playing characters and Jack Black played well his role as an overly sympathetic ex-Imperial officer.

After the conclusion of this episode though, I'm starting to wonder on what kind of cliffhanger this season will end on (since this season's story line seems to be design as a part 1 of at least 2). I'm currently thinking it will end with Bo's death/capture and Grogu's possible capture again (I'm sure he will get shot though and whoever does this will become, in my eyes, Star Wars' greatest and vilest villain). I'm almost certain this season's ending will be on a bad note for the heroes unlike the first one.
   
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It'll be the set up for Ahsoka or something. Nobody important will die and the ending will be "Time to retake Mandalore".
   
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I half expect them to show up to mandalore and find some <bad guy here> there, the one who launched all those tie fighters that the story didn't bother even trying to explain or have the characters seek answers about because it was too busy doing... A series of unfortunate events that may or may not be related but feel kind of random either way.

   
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 Gert wrote:
It'll be the set up for Ahsoka or something. Nobody important will die and the ending will be "Time to retake Mandalore".
Which will take place over two episodes in a different show.

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 LunarSol wrote:
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Oh, I didn’t realize Bad Batch last week was the season finale. That was a rather disappointing season overall. It was just starting to get interesting and have things happen.


Yeah, I had the same reaction. It wants to be an Empire Strikes Back feeling cliffhanger ending, but it didn't feel like a cliffhanger really. I only noticed when I went back to the episode list to see how many more there were and saw both season 1 and 2 were at 16 episodes.


It felt like it a cliffhanger ending was written, but they didn't know how to join it to the season they'd written. So they just... placed... the cast at the appropriate end states and went with it. They had to be there, she had to do the sacrifice, that guy had to be over there, and that's a wrap. There were no stakes or engagement, we're just cycling back to 'rescue girl from evil cloners' state from the first season. But this time at a Legendary Location rather than some random abandoned city!

Ahsoka trailer took me off guard. No idea what's going on in it, but I'm puzzled by the sheer amount of red lighsaber people running about.

Haven't taken the time for the latest episode of Quest Cycling with Mando, mostly because I remain un-invested in task:task resolved, activate the Skyrim 'Radiant Quest generator' for random new quest.

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Ahsoka trailer took me off guard. No idea what's going on in it, but I'm puzzled by the sheer amount of red lighsaber people running about.


Aren't they orange lightsaber as in something entirely new and probably evil, just not super evil?
   
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For people who don't know,

Lana Beniko is a Sith from SWTOR and that blonde girl with the orange lightsaber looks an awful lot like Lana Beniko (who also had an orange lightsaber).

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I heard a few people whinge about Jack Black in a star wars show.

OK, it wasn't the greatest cameo in the world ...

... it was a trib-u-u-te ...

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Apparently Filoni got the green light to make a movie and it will be an Avengers type film where they bring together The Mandolorian and Ashoko characters.



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Apparently Filoni got the green light to make a movie and it will be an Avengers type film where they bring together The Mandolorian and Ashoko characters.
And hopefully the brightly coloured Vespa gang from the Crime Lord of No Crime.

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I like to think there's a chance for that, even if it's just a cameo. Let's be realistic here. No matter what Disney/Lucasfilm put on the label, there's no real distinction between Mando and Book of Boba. It's as much Mandalorian season 2.5 as season 3 is The Restoration of Bo-Katan Kryze.

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Seems pretty likely Filoni’s film will focus on the defeat of Thrawn.

Also, spoilers in the wild for the next episode of Mando.
Spoiler:

The clip begins with Elia Kane speaking to Moff Gideon on hologram, and she tells the character played by Giancarlo Esposito that "Karga was aided by Mandalorians." Gideon then says he will deal with them before speaking to Captain Pallaeon about the whereabouts of Grand Admiral Thrawn.

"Grand Admiral Thrawn is missing," Moff Gideon says.

"With respect, our one hope for success relies upon the secrecy of his return," Pallaeon replies.

"I never hear a word of Thrawn. You've spoken of his imminent return. Perhaps it's time that we look to new leadership."


Pretty decent round up here

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-celebration-2023-everything-announced-so-far

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So Ahsoka, as I've said I've had a thing for Ms Dawson since the criminally under rated Josie And the Pussycats film so was going to watch the show anyhoo, but sticking in a crazy bot is the key to the Star War (heck even L3-37 was a half decent idea done badly) so C1-10P is a good sign

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