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As for why he doesn't appear in the sequels, apparently that's explained in a recent novel - his ghost is damaged/depleted/whatever protecting Luke from some Sithy Shenanigans on Exigol.
That's so much worse than just not mentioning it.
I was about to say exactly this! Actually that gakky explanation fits right in with the dumpster fire sequels, so maybe it's perfect.
Just to be fair, the rightfully beloved Heir to the Empire novel opens with Obi Wan's ghost fading away from Luke for no real reason just to write him out of the story as well.
to be fair, we've never seen, in the new canon at least, a force ghost older than 20 or 30 years. I think the oldest one we've seen is Yoda in The Last Jedi, whos been dead for like 30 years by that point.
its not impossible that they just fade into the wider Force as they get older, and stop being distinct beings that can be interacted with.
Unless theirs some thousands year old ghost in the later Clone Wars or Rebels i haven't seen.
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I think current canon is it’s not a thing all Jedi/Force users even can do? Like Qui Gon was the first, who after he died taught it to Obi, who taught it to a reluctant Yoda. And Anakin… Well Skywalkers cheat I guess?
AduroT wrote: I think current canon is it’s not a thing all Jedi/Force users even can do? Like Qui Gon was the first, who after he died taught it to Obi, who taught it to a reluctant Yoda. And Anakin… Well Skywalkers cheat I guess?
Right. And there is the rub. Anakin gets a free pass? So who else?
If Starwars was EVER in better hands that maintained any kind of rules for this crap then we could maybe argue that Anakin was the exception because "chosen one". But the truth is we are another 10-15 years away from Rey appearing to somebody she never met as a force ghost.
Also, wasn't there a thousand year old evil force ghost guarding a temple with a holocron in clone wars?
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If Starwars was EVER in better hands that maintained any kind of rules for this crap then we could maybe argue that Anakin was the exception because "chosen one". But the truth is we are another 10-15 years away from Rey appearing to somebody she never met as a force ghost.
Dude... don't give them ideas.
On the other hand, I almost want this to happen so I can see the mental gymnastics of the fandom to justify it.
The prequels made the whole Force Ghost thing a mess the instant Qui Gon didn't vanish when stabbed by Maul. Everything since has been a jumble of retcons.
And I'm still mad we didn't get Luke Ghost Trolling Kylo in 9.
I don’t agree the prequels wrecked it. The only Jedi we’ve seen be “laundried” are Kenobi and Yoda. Oh, and Luke
But. Qui-Gonn figured out how to actually manifest post-mortem. So the process can comfortably be said to be different there. It’s something he managed whilst already One With The Force. The others presumably got their souls or chakras or whatever aligned before they shuffled off this mortal coil.
We didn’t see Vader laundried. And we did see him immediately after he snuffed it, and his body was still robust when Luke burned it. So presumably Anakin’s physical shell was still in there.
The only thing I’d like to see added to Rise of Skywalker would be the Force Ghosts of the Jedi speak to Rey kind-of manifest in the background when she’s fighting back Palpatine’s force lightning.
Also, Palpypoos really should’ve done something else. Every time we’ve seen him do Force Lightning, it’s gone a bit wrong. From being electrocuted by his own power, being lobbed down a shaft, to his physical body discorporating. Oh, and that’s not counting Yoda having none of it either!
Maybe he figured third time was the charm.
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We didn’t see Vader laundried. And we did see him immediately after he snuffed it, and his body was still robust when Luke burned it. So presumably Anakin’s physical shell was still in there.
Did we? I remember a full body suit of armor on a pyre. I don't remember seeing any portion of his skin.
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We see Vader/Anakin pass away. And nothing happened to his body.
Kenobi was instant - arguably immediately prior*. Today about as instant as anyone can really tell.
But Anakin/Vader?
Clearly dead. Not laundry.
However….for the sake of open and honest conversation? I concede it is somewhat plausible it was his cyborg gubbins responsible for that. But I still think it shows you only Laundry if you’ve been previously taught to Laundry.
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If Starwars was EVER in better hands that maintained any kind of rules for this crap then we could maybe argue that Anakin was the exception because "chosen one". But the truth is we are another 10-15 years away from Rey appearing to somebody she never met as a force ghost.
The truth is that Star Wars has never been in those kind of hands. Lucas himself put continuity behind what looked good on screen at the time, and he's said as much and is completely unapologetic for it. Continuity is just not something he cares about. The rules are made up, and subject to change at whim.
The whole 'disappearing at death' itself was only a thing because the VFX weren't at a level where Lucas could show Obi Wan getting cut in half. It was never a planned part of the story, just something Lucas threw in because it worked better at the time.
And I suspect the real reason Qui Gonn didn't disappear is that it would have spoiled the drama of the moment, and would have looked really odd.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Again, that takes resources, which are finite for Thrawn. Fuel, ammo, troops. All you’d need to expend to find Ezra.
Or, your castle up, safe in the knowledge Ezra would have his work cut out for him getting to you. If he does that? Brill, blaze away as we saw. If he doesn’t? Get back to the Galaxy and never have to worry about him again.
Thrawn wasn't even on world until Morgan Elspeth arrived, He likely didn't consider Ezra that important
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Lord Damocles wrote: The person responsible for stranding Thrawn in another galaxy wasn't considered that important.
Ok, sure.
Why would he be? Unless he also had a way to return you, he is irrelevant. Thrawn’s priorities are to preserve his resources and find a way back to the Empire; hunting down Ezra won’t help with the second objective and will directly compromise the first.
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Why would the jedi (who your new witch allies dislike anyway) who is the reason for you being stranded possibly pose a risk to your plans to un-strand yourself? hmmm big think time for blue man.
Which means he’s going to have to come to you at some point. Hence, castle up, maintain an effective watch, and from there only worry about the Jedi when he comes a-knocking.
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They’ve been there a Long time. We don’t know how many times he tried and failed to capture Ezra before now, until either running out of options or deciding it just wasn’t worth the effort. Do you think the Storm Troopers’ armor got that beat up just marching around the ship?
Critcal Drinker summed up my thoughts about this pretty well.
It was nonsensical, infantile, lacking any type of tension or surprise.
I think the worst thing for me is that not only the viewer knows that nothing bad will happen to the characters. Characters seem to know that too, and their cheerful attitude when they put lives in danger in absurdly risky situations for very little reason robs the viewer of any emotional response to yet another obstacle put in their way.
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The only way he could have been more accurate is if the thumbnail had Ahsoka leaning back and folding her arms stoically three times, rather than 3 different characters.
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