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The GSC bike and buggy are awesome, will have to get the local group to agree some rules for using them (we play using the age of darkness rule set)

The titan is a surprise, I had assumed we'd see new titans in AT scale first then the popular stuff called up.

Calgar, ugh. The last thing I wanted to see was the primaris-action of normal marine characters. Might pick up the terminator version before it disappears.

The noise marine, all I can see if the high heels.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Damn, I love it.

 Tamereth wrote:
The GSC bike and buggy are awesome, will have to get the local group to agree some rules for using them (we play using the age of darkness rule set)

The titan is a surprise, I had assumed we'd see new titans in AT scale first then the popular stuff called up.

Calgar, ugh. The last thing I wanted to see was the primaris-action of normal marine characters. Might pick up the terminator version before it disappears.

The noise marine, all I can see if the high heels.

He's got a salon perfect mane and Leopard print armor and you're hung up on his hooves?

Don't you remember the 80's?

All of these GSC models are absolutely stunning.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Spoiler:

So GSC are going to invade GW headquarters? Or maybe they already have. Extra arms would help with the painting I guess.

We still need a magus with a microphone and one with tablet/pad...

Just kidding: damn this GSC is awesome!

 lord_blackfang wrote:

OH, now that's what I'm talking about.
Sniper bikers are cute but silly, that actually looks good, with some nice world building touches.

Voss wrote:

OH, now that's what I'm talking about.
Sniper bikers are cute but silly, that actually looks good, with some nice world building touches.

"Sniper biker" works better than you might think, considering she's parked her bike to aim and fire. Also worth noting there's only one in the unit, suggesting it's a unit upgrade of some type.


Community added a picture of the Quad.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Voss wrote:

OH, now that's what I'm talking about.
Sniper bikers are cute but silly, that actually looks good, with some nice world building touches.

"Sniper biker" works better than you might think, considering she's parked her bike to aim and fire. Also worth noting there's only one in the unit, suggesting it's a unit upgrade of some type.

She’s a character, I read somewhere.

Apparently she's a special character, I don't think she'll be in the box. But yes, at least she's idling at a stop, whereas two of the bikers are somehow accelerating without operating the throttle...

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 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

Voss wrote:

OH, now that's what I'm talking about.
Sniper bikers are cute but silly, that actually looks good, with some nice world building touches.

"Sniper biker" works better than you might think, considering she's parked her bike to aim and fire. Also worth noting there's only one in the unit, suggesting it's a unit upgrade of some type.


Community added a picture of the Quad.

The vibration from being idol alone would make the task futile. It looks awesome though.


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 Luciferian wrote:
Apparently she's a special character, I don't think she'll be in the box. But yes, at least she's idling at a stop, whereas two of the bikers are somehow accelerating without operating the throttle...

Or coasting with the clutch pulled in.

 Spuj wrote:
No picture of the new Titan yet?

Spoiler:

That Chaos Raptor is a stunning model, and that's coming from an Imperial Scumbag

Nipple guns! Slannesh conversion inbound!

Funny that the rhino of the genestealer dudes hologram is technically better scaled to warhammer HQ than the real one

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Apparently she's a special character, I don't think she'll be in the box. But yes, at least she's idling at a stop, whereas two of the bikers are somehow accelerating without operating the throttle...

Or coasting with the clutch pulled in.

They're not operating the clutch either, one of them is even pulling a wheelie! As someone who rides a motorcycle every day those are noticeable, but forgivable details. It would be boring if they were all using the same arms for their weapons.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That Noise Marine is a one-off right? That's not a new unit. That's a single mini, right?

robbienw wrote:
In short you are wrong, and the main GW studio is still making normal loyalist marines.

They aren't. The blindbox Marines are not a regular Marine release. They have never been a regular Marine release. They will never be a regular Marine release. They're not even the same scale, being slightly taller than actual regular Marines.

They were made to test a market, using a type of sales strategy that works well in Japan (and among kids toys these day, for some inexplicable reason*). They proved popular enough that GW decided they could sell them in their general stores.

But they are no more a 'regular' Marine release, or proof that regular Marines will carry on, than the beginner kits using the old Ork vehicles are examples of GW keeping ancient Ork models (and Terminators from the 2nd Ed Space Hulk days) in regular production. They're not regular releases by any stretch of the imagination. They are specifically designed for a type of market, to appeal to a specific demographic of shopper (much like the Conquest magazines), but people buy them anyway.

*I'm not kidding. Watch kids toy ads these days, especially girls toys. So many blindbox collectable things. It's weird.

No, they are. They are available in GW stores, you can make a legal squad out of them, and many of the parts are interchangeable with other regular marines. I have swapped bits between the and normal marines with was, so I know this to be factually correct The scale has been upped slightly, by making the legs and torso slightly longer but it hasn’t made them totally incompatible with normal marines. It’s the same as what they did with the deathwatch kit, who are also compatible with regular marines.

They are regular space marines, they were designed by the main studio, and they were released after the main Primaris release so are newer models. They have the warhammer 40,000 logo on the boxes and they are citadel miniatures.

All of these things are facts, it doesn’t matter if you don’t like them.

They also decided to release them worldwide due to popular demand, which should tell you something; people still want classic marine designs. If GW are sensible, and I believe they are, then they will keep providing people who want them with new or updated classic marine models, because they want to make money. This I am certain we will still future relates of classic marines, even if there aren’t general squad box releases for a few years while Primaris take the main spotlight.

tneva82 wrote:

Khahandran wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well that explains why 40k points are so bad. They are actually stupid enough to use formula for points

Well, the alternative is points being plucked from the air on no basis but the author's opinion/bias. Using a formula provides a consistent baseline for ALL models. They can then playtest and vary the points from there.

Or you know through playtesting and looking value of model. Obviously there's other options than bad.

Formula always creates wrong results. Fact. You only use it if you don't care about balance and don't want to do actual games development

Playtesting doesn't give you a place to start from, and still requires a potentially initially flawed human start point. Again, you use the formula to establish a baseline points cost, THEN you playtest and adjust as necessary.

Formulas by definition don't produce wrong results. They only produce an output based on the formula. How is it fact that they always create wrong results?

 Luciferian wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Apparently she's a special character, I don't think she'll be in the box. But yes, at least she's idling at a stop, whereas two of the bikers are somehow accelerating without operating the throttle...

Or coasting with the clutch pulled in.

They're not operating the clutch either, one of them is even pulling a wheelie! As someone who rides a motorcycle every day those are noticeable, but forgivable details. It would be boring if they were all using the same arms for their weapons.

The guy pulling a wheele is using the throttle not the clutch though, and the other model doesn't have the clutch in, but it's 28mm so I was gona forgive it until I saw the quad guy operating the clutch , could be in neutral for some idiotic reason (lets be honest these are all gona die quick anyway ) but it's all forgivable since shooting and operating a bike is very Hollywood anyway. The bikes look like they have gas tanks big enough to get them stranded on the front line anyway, what has me more curious are the demo pack looking things on each saddle, I wonder if these guys will get to toss some of those bad boys.

That is amazing that the Genestealer guy is planning an ambush on GW HQ

 Nostromodamus wrote:
That is amazing that the Genestealer guy is planning an ambush on GW HQ

Now that I think about it, maybe he is just planning a pizza delivery. He has a phone and isn't armed.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
That is amazing that the Genestealer guy is planning an ambush on GW HQ

I really hope that they have some fun with it and the Community Team/Warhammer TV team that week only wear khakis.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that an Ork trike? Is that a conversion?

I don’t think it is. Look at the plain plastic model right next to it with the ripped metal and spike on the front, which looks like a new Warbuggy. I think the trakks are back.

 Luciferian wrote:
Apparently she's a special character, I don't think she'll be in the box. But yes, at least she's idling at a stop, whereas two of the bikers are somehow accelerating without operating the throttle...

Cool - where was the info please

 Red Corsair wrote:


The guy pulling a wheele is using the throttle not the clutch though, and the other model doesn't have the clutch in, but it's 28mm so I was gona forgive it until I saw the quad guy operating the clutch , could be in neutral for some idiotic reason (lets be honest these are all gona die quick anyway ) but it's all forgivable since shooting and operating a bike is very Hollywood anyway. The bikes look like they have gas tanks big enough to get them stranded on the front line anyway, what has me more curious are the demo pack looking things on each saddle, I wonder if these guys will get to toss some of those bad boys.

My assumption is that they represent grenades, but it would be cool (though somewhat overkill) if they could each take demolition charges like Acolyte Hybrids can.

Loving the Genestealer Cult stuff.

Gonna be hard to resist doing an army of them.

Invul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that an Ork trike? Is that a conversion?

I don’t think it is. Look at the plain plastic model right next to it with the ripped metal and spike on the front, which looks like a new Warbuggy. I think the trakks are back.

That's a boomdakka snazzwagon

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Apparently she's a special character, I don't think she'll be in the box. But yes, at least she's idling at a stop, whereas two of the bikers are somehow accelerating without operating the throttle...

Cool - where was the info please

Hmm, I'm trying to find it. I know I read it somewhere but there's been a lot of updates, discussion and speculation about the weekender so I don't remember where.

Invul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that an Ork trike? Is that a conversion?

I don’t think it is. Look at the plain plastic model right next to it with the ripped metal and spike on the front, which looks like a new Warbuggy. I think the trakks are back.

It’s a conversion. All the parts from the front half are just warbike parts.

OMG, that guys awesome.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Invul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that an Ork trike? Is that a conversion?

I don’t think it is. Look at the plain plastic model right next to it with the ripped metal and spike on the front, which looks like a new Warbuggy. I think the trakks are back.

It’s a conversion. All the parts from the front half are just warbike parts.

Possibly, perhaps even likely. However, plenty of kits share parts. A picture of a razorback could be discounted as a rhino conversion, for example.

 Trickstick wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

Invul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that an Ork trike? Is that a conversion?

I don’t think it is. Look at the plain plastic model right next to it with the ripped metal and spike on the front, which looks like a new Warbuggy. I think the trakks are back.

It’s a conversion. All the parts from the front half are just warbike parts.

Possibly, perhaps even likely. However, plenty of kits share parts. A picture of a razorback could be discounted as a rhino conversion, for example.

Yeah, but those kits didn’t come out like 8 years apart. And the sprues are cut in a way that you can just add the turret, unlike the way the warbike sprue is cut so that it only makes warbikes.