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So the Primaris side has not-scouts, the new Librarian, heavy weapons squad and maybe-Thelion

The Chaos side has not-really-Dark-Apostole, CSM squad, Obliterators, Crawler thingy and some number of Possessed.

So we're going to see a mid sized Primaris vehicle? A Speeder equivalent?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New planet name as well, rather than being Vigilus (unless it's a location thereon? Really not that up on my Vigilus knowledge).

Nemendghast is in the Vigilus System. This specific thing is actually called out on page 124 of the Vigilus Defiant book--I posted it up yesterday.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That new primeris looks like he's got a helverin autocannon with that wee shield on the front of it

Looks like there's a power cable connected to the weapon, so not an autocannon I guess?

Edit: Yeah, that's an ammo feed. Nice. I love autocannons.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That new primeris looks like he's got a helverin autocannon with that wee shield on the front of it

Could be.

I also noticed that he has similar boots to the Inceptors. Besides the Grav chute vanes, he also has little control vanes on his knees too.


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 His Master's Voice wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That new primeris looks like he's got a helverin autocannon with that wee shield on the front of it

Looks like there's a power cable connected to the weapon, so not an autocannon I guess?

If you zoom closer it is definitely a ammunition chain.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/15/warhammer-40000-the-shadow-war-for-nemendghast-part-1/

gigantic gun for primaris

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That new primeris looks like he's got a helverin autocannon with that wee shield on the front of it

Now I just get this image of the Marine flying about uncontrollably like someone trying to hold into a full power firehose in a cartoon!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That new primeris looks like he's got a helverin autocannon with that wee shield on the front of it

Now I just get this image of the Marine flying about uncontrollably like someone trying to hold into a full power firehose in a cartoon!

Hahaha I can't unsee it now. The unit is ruined forever

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That new primeris looks like he's got a helverin autocannon with that wee shield on the front of it

Now I just get this image of the Marine flying about uncontrollably like someone trying to hold into a full power firehose in a cartoon!

Naw that is why he has Inceptor Pants on with added control vanes. Because that is going to somehow make him not fly back like a little person firing a shotgun.

One thing I like about these is the face shield on respirator. Mk V and VII always looked colossally stupid to me for this very reason, complete lack of protection against bullets save for thin grate right on the height where your spine connects to your skull, presenting perfect target in weak joint even if your bones were armored.

Nice someone finally figured it out after 10000 years...

 His Master's Voice wrote:
So the Primaris side has not-scouts, the new Librarian, heavy weapons squad and maybe-Thelion

The Chaos side has not-really-Dark-Apostole, CSM squad, Obliterators, Crawler thingy and some number of Possessed.

So we're going to see a mid sized Primaris vehicle? A Speeder equivalent?

This stuff might not all be in that box, but subsequent releases shortly thereafter.

So there is a giant snake tail on the building just above the barrel of the Autocannon. Fulgrim?

This looks so awesome, I can't wait!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So there is a giant snake tail on the building just above the barrel of the Autocannon. Fulgrim?

I think it's just some general demonic part of the building. HR department, most likely.

Another thing - maybe I'm late on this, still. We're getting a redone Abbadon. Who looks basically like the old model, just brought up to date. With Primarchs coming back, should't he be promoted to at least demon prince or something? Not much of Warmaster of Chaos that can still be knocked out with a single bullet to the topknot.

There is a dark shape in the upper left quadrant of th picture. I wonder if that is anything?

I suspect he's refusing Daemonhood in the same way and for the same reasons as Archaon.

Also, the God's only collectively raised on mortal to Daemonhood. That was Belakor, and, well, he didn't turn out all that well - as none could exercise control over him, leaving him to do pretty much whatevs, whenevs.

So, it looks like we will definitely have some kind of autocannon Primaris, and likely some kind of Assault Cannon Primaris (possibly rotor cannon?).

I have four questions about this. 1. Are these the same unit, but with different weapons loadouts? 2. I wonder which will be more useful. 3. Is there a possibility there will be unit-upgrade heavy weapons now (unlikely) or will these be their own unit (more likely)? 4. Why an autocannon? Space marines were moving away from those over the last 10,000 years and Devastators no longer have them, nor scouts for that matter.

That is a large gun

None of that is a problem

Kendo wrote:There is a dark shape in the upper left quadrant of th picture. I wonder if that is anything?

Above the Primaris' autocannon gunshield? Looks like another Primaris with grav-vanes from the back, probably deep striking in.

cuda1179 wrote:So, it looks like we will definitely have some kind of autocannon Primaris, and likely some kind of Assault Cannon Primaris (possibly rotor cannon?).

I have four questions about this. 1. Are these the same unit, but with different weapons loadouts? 2. I wonder which will be more useful. 3. Is there a possibility there will be unit-upgrade heavy weapons now (unlikely) or will these be their own unit (more likely)? 4. Why an autocannon? Space marines were moving away from those over the last 10,000 years and Devastators no longer have them, nor scouts for that matter.

Where are people seeing the assault cannon?

As to #4: Roboute's return most likely. Primaris marines use (updated versions of) the pre-heresy squad loadouts, so why not bring back autocannons? Cawl-pattern autocannons with extra armour penetration and/or damage, of course.

 Redemption wrote:

Kendo wrote:There is a dark shape in the upper left quadrant of th picture. I wonder if that is anything?

Above the Primaris' autocannon gunshield? Looks like another Primaris with grav-vanes from the back, probably deep striking in.

cuda1179 wrote:So, it looks like we will definitely have some kind of autocannon Primaris, and likely some kind of Assault Cannon Primaris (possibly rotor cannon?).

I have four questions about this. 1. Are these the same unit, but with different weapons loadouts? 2. I wonder which will be more useful. 3. Is there a possibility there will be unit-upgrade heavy weapons now (unlikely) or will these be their own unit (more likely)? 4. Why an autocannon? Space marines were moving away from those over the last 10,000 years and Devastators no longer have them, nor scouts for that matter.

Where are people seeing the assault cannon?

As to #4: Roboute's return most likely. Primaris marines use (updated versions of) the pre-heresy squad loadouts, so why not bring back autocannons? Cawl-pattern autocannons with extra armour penetration and/or damage, of course.

Yeah n,o a regular autocannon is enough.

Looks like Aggressor armour with an autocannon to me. Jump devastators?

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The dark shape in the air above the marine. A flying machine,

 cuda1179 wrote:
So, it looks like we will definitely have some kind of autocannon Primaris, and likely some kind of Assault Cannon Primaris (possibly rotor cannon?).

I have four questions about this. 1. Are these the same unit, but with different weapons loadouts? 2. I wonder which will be more useful. 3. Is there a possibility there will be unit-upgrade heavy weapons now (unlikely) or will these be their own unit (more likely)? 4. Why an autocannon? Space marines were moving away from those over the last 10,000 years and Devastators no longer have them, nor scouts for that matter.

1. I imagine it is one unit with multiple weapon choices. 2. In the current meta, likely the one with more shots, but we will have to see. 3. These are their own unit, they have Devastator symbols instead of Troop symbols like Intercessors. Also, their armor is half Intercessor, half Inceptor (they are clearly some sort of drop troop). 4. Rotor/Assault cannons and Autocannons stopped being man-portable weapons for some reason, but Guilliman is bringing the Space Marine Chapters back into functioning more like Legion Companies. Most of the Primaris models resemble certain Legion Squads in some way.


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Kendo wrote:
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The dark shape in the air above the marine. A flying machine,

That's another Marine in the same armor as the Autocannon Marine.

 Redemption wrote:

Where are people seeing the assault cannon?

As to #4: Roboute's return most likely. Primaris marines use (updated versions of) the pre-heresy squad loadouts, so why not bring back autocannons? Cawl-pattern autocannons with extra armour penetration and/or damage, of course.

In the picture where they're fighting the possessed and master of repossessions (I'm going with 'Chaos Repo Man'). Dude is in the background.

I've been clamoring for rotorcannons/assault cannons on Space Marines for a while. Granted, they're already good enough at wiping out squishies, but I mean... minigun. What's not to love?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Looks like Aggressor armour with an autocannon to me. Jump devastators?

Nah, it doesn't have the Gravis armour's distinctive gorget and hood.

Kendo wrote:
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The dark shape in the air above the marine. A flying machine,

Looks more like another autocannon guy seen from behind and below to me.

 Redemption wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Looks like Aggressor armour with an autocannon to me. Jump devastators?

Nah, it doesn't have the Gravis armour's distinctive gorget and hood.

It does have the foot plates and ankle gubbins though.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

Where are people seeing the assault cannon?

As to #4: Roboute's return most likely. Primaris marines use (updated versions of) the pre-heresy squad loadouts, so why not bring back autocannons? Cawl-pattern autocannons with extra armour penetration and/or damage, of course.

In the picture where they're fighting the possessed and master of repossessions (I'm going with 'Chaos Repo Man'). Dude is in the background.

I've been clamoring for rotorcannons/assault cannons on Space Marines for a while. Granted, they're already good enough at wiping out squishies, but I mean... minigun. What's not to love?

This guy? Looks like a regular bolt rifle to me, but I guess time will tell.

Man if that grav-chute heavy weapon unit has options for a heavy rottor/minigun it will be a very happy day for me.

Theres nothing I love more in 40k than miniguns and I have always wanted to have the same feeling a IG player has when firing his punisher leman russ. Heavy Bolters just don't feel the same.

It will be funny when primaris get their plastic autocannon havocs and the only plastic Chaos heavy weapon is still a heavy bolter.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
New Heavy Support Primaris Marine confirmed

Hm... it seems to have a grav chute, interesting.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Kendo wrote:
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The dark shape in the air above the marine. A flying machine,

Looks more like another autocannon guy seen from behind and below to me.

 Redemption wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Looks like Aggressor armour with an autocannon to me. Jump devastators?

Nah, it doesn't have the Gravis armour's distinctive gorget and hood.

It does have the foot plates and ankle gubbins though.

It looks like a cross between Inceptor armor and Intercessor armor with added Grav vanes for stability.