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So New Zealand Store confirms that Bikers and Chaos Lord are reboxed old minis.

Well looked new CSM sprues and damn those are packed with options! And description says it is fully compatible with Havocs for more goodies.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
My money is on Calgar dying. And before people whine about how how he just got a new model, I still remember Valten. That dude got THREE models and still died...

...and then died AGAIN because they had to retcon the first death out.

So Calgar dies, I'm betting. And since we know that Cypher is important to what's going on for Round 2, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Luther and/or the Lion make and appearance. I mean, the Dark Angels were already there in force in Round 1...

could be they're killing Dante and replacing him with a new primaris Blood Angel character. IIRC the blood angels show up.

I think it's more likely they'll bump off one of the old guard, someone they don't want to Primarisise.

Dante, Azrael, Logan, Lysander etc.

Maybe a few of the lower tier Ultramarines characters, lord knows their roster is getting bloated.

some more pics, looks like no new noise marines and another shot of havocs

The Chaos Marine sprues look as packed as Deathwatch sprues!

Man....the more I look at the Havocs, the more I realise I will buying a box, just to build and paint.

The Fargate is bigger than I thought it was.

With regard to Noise Marines and Berzerkers, I expect they’ll get their turn when their respective books come out.

And the Berzerkers May get new rules as well at that point. After all, a World Eater Berzerker may be somewhat nuttier and flightier than Common or Garden Devotees Of Khorne? Just speculation though.

 Latro_ wrote:
some more pics, looks like no new noise marines and another shot of havocs

To bad the same snap fit cultists.
Oh well, maybee we finally get a propper Set for cultists atleast.

One of the Prayers is a -1 to hit for enemies attacking a unit with ranged weapons.

Alpha legion cultists hard camping an obj for the win! Marines hitting you on a 5 haha

Ooof. I'm glad because i'll probably use it, but not happy to see more of that mechanic in the game. A cover aura would have been better from a design standpoint.

 Latro_ wrote:
Alpha legion cultists hard camping an obj for the win! Marines hitting you on a 5 haha

"Mere Mortals"
....

That's any <legion> unit too. Would work on a Kytan, for example. That thing is slowly accruing some real buffs.

Also makes me think that stacking -2 to hit and 4++ on a max squad of AL Slaaneshi oblits might make them very tempting. You could even consider starting them on the board, with the -2 hit stack, to get them shooting T1...

Not that Alpha Legion Chaos Space Marines hard camping an objective is much better. I guess it makes more sense for the random chance on Prayers if that's what we should expect. GW should maybe have put that foot forward rather than the melee self buff.

I'm very happy for Dakkax3 right now.

What do you think the odds of a second prayer strategem are?

 grouchoben wrote:
That's any <legion> unit too. Would work on a Kytan, for example. That thing is slowly accruing some real buffs.

Also makes me think that stacking -2 to hit and 4++ on a max squad of AL Slaaneshi oblits might make them very tempting. You could even consider starting them on the board, with the -2 hit stack, to get them shooting T1...

if you want to go all out

slaanesh terminators

-deploy in cover (or warp time them into some)
-master of possession gives them 4+ invuln and could sacrifice to heal them + re rolls on their guns (+ vets and endless cacophony)
- 2 to hit with prayer + al
-cast delightful agonies on them from slaanesh sorcerer for a 5+fnp

pretty annoying blob of 9 wounds to shift if going first, can nearly garuntee getting 2x turns of double shooting

with so many command points from cheap corsair battalions you could even spare a few re rolls on their saves.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
some more pics, looks like no new noise marines and another shot of havocs

To bad the same snap fit cultists.
Oh well, maybee we finally get a propper Set for cultists atleast.

I just hope we get the missing Cultists from Dark Vengeance, the leaders, flamer, stunner etc.

As for the options on the new CSM I think there are only 7 sets each of bolters and chainswords/bolt pistols. If buying one set that forces you into using special or heavy weapons.

When this book drops the swathe of rules...

you know the meta is gonna find that juiciness, there are the jigsaw combo pieces beginning to be laid out

in time to get a couple of tournies in before GW swing the holy faq nerf bat on em

also had a couple of beer i'm gonna reveal how WHC reveals the day before works because i'm not gonna bother with it after the weekend.

its a wordpress blog, every wordpress blog treats file uploads as a post number e.g. p=xxxxx

so the latest is:
href='https://www.warhammer-community.com/?p=54564

to see this vist a post view the source by right clicking scroll down the code till you get to:
<link rel='shortlink' href='https://www.warhammer-community.com/?p=54564' />

copy that link and keep visiting it increasing the number by 1
e.g.
href='https://www.warhammer-community.com/?p=54565
they upload assets/images before the posts go live, some are 'drafts' so you wont get anything some are public.

keep going till you get something that is all there is to it....yes its that simple! use your new skills wisely you can now fish for pics and earl youtubers ad rev when they cotton on to it 2hrs later

 DaveC wrote:
So New Zealand Store confirms that Bikers and Chaos Lord are reboxed old minis.

*sad trumpet noise*

Well, Havocs look outstanding. Really everything, barring that Master of Derp previewed today, thus far has looked absolutely stunning.

CSM Sprues on the NZ store look great. If the pricing with the U.S. is consistent with the Gloomspite release, looks like the box will be $60 USD. A little steep for core troops, but it is a really gorgeous kit and unlike many of the kits out there, looks to have most of the units options included in it. All that considered I think it's probably worth the price.

 Sabotage! wrote:
Well, Havocs look outstanding. Really everything, barring that Master of Derp previewed today, thus far has looked absolutely stunning.

CSM Sprues on the NZ store look great. If the pricing with the U.S. is consistent with the Gloomspite release, looks like the box will be $60 USD. A little steep for core troops, but it is a really gorgeous kit and unlike many of the kits out there, looks to have most of the units options included in it. All that considered I think it's probably worth the price.

60 for basic troops? Jikes.

 Kanluwen wrote:


One of the Prayers is a -1 to hit for enemies attacking a unit with ranged weapons.

Okay, I guess I can get behind the new Dark Apostle. So far he can:
1. Do what he always did
2. Protect friendly units
3. Make himself a somewhat cheap combat monster.

My only issue is randumb at work again. Assuming the 2+ roll exists (I don't know where I read it), on average I'll spend 1CP to ensure success during a game. Not terrible but still annoying.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
Well, Havocs look outstanding. Really everything, barring that Master of Derp previewed today, thus far has looked absolutely stunning.

CSM Sprues on the NZ store look great. If the pricing with the U.S. is consistent with the Gloomspite release, looks like the box will be $60 USD. A little steep for core troops, but it is a really gorgeous kit and unlike many of the kits out there, looks to have most of the units options included in it. All that considered I think it's probably worth the price.

60 for basic troops? Jikes.

Same price as Intercessors? Not too surprising I suppose.

Well atleast the AC is in the box.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
My only issue is randumb at work again. Assuming the 2+ roll exists (I don't know where I read it), on average I'll spend 1CP to ensure success during a game. Not terrible but still annoying.

His ”retinue” gives him +1 on the roll.

Getting a bit sick of GW using the same Codex cover over and over again.

It's pathetic.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Well atleast the AC is in the box.

Where?

"You’ll be able to add your choice of plasma gun, flamer, meltagun, heavy bolter and missile launcher."

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Well atleast the AC is in the box.

Where?

"You’ll be able to add your choice of plasma gun, flamer, meltagun, heavy bolter and missile launcher."

I suspected from the AL squad it seemed obvious, but i think chances are you are right. Which would make me sad.