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Ouze wrote: "There are more ratings" is dishonest. No one said one was better because one has more ratings
You're saying it's better. Better how?
Underworld is objectively better in every possible way, starting from the fact that it's World of Darkness and WoD Medieval on screen, with Werewolves that look properly Crinos.
Further, Underworld doesn't promote Mormonist grooming of underage girls by middle-aged men to become daughter-brides who are bred as soon as they reach puberty
Well, don't hold back at all.
Sorry, was that not correct, or is that something that we just don't mention?
See, this is why arguing over subjective considerations is pointless. I would agree that Underworld is 'better' than Twilight, all day every day.
Twilight is indisputably more popular, though, and made far more money and, most importantly, was not aimed at grumpy men who are marching headlong into middle-age, like me.
Also, while it's not a franchise, the 'best' vampire movie is What We Do In The Shadows.
I tend to agree that Underworld is better than Twilight.
As for the later is just an average stupid teenage lovestory that got Woves in it.
There are a lot of those and it just happend that this one got more popular than the others (there was another series with Fallen Angels, I am just glad that it it did not made it into pop culture and defiened the look of those)
Even the 2011 Red Riding Hood was a better Werewolf Lovestory than Twilight
But Underworld is not good either. It had potential but they throw it away with part 2.
A good movie about the coming of age thing would be "When Animals Dream" from 2014
So my favourite movies therefore are still The Wolfman (both of them) and Brotherhood of the Wolf (not really a Werewolve story but close enough and the best we got for years by the time)
I also like the Werewolf story arc from Supernatural.
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
First 'military vs monsters' film where the military actually act like they're trained. No 'oh man, game over man game over'. Lots of 'well, we'll just have to kill them all to death'.
Favourite moment? Letterbox/Hand/Hammer. Just glorious.
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Dog soldiers...
I was doing my military service at the time in the wooded Greek mountains. The whole squad laughed at the film and spent the rest off the week jumping at shadows... Epic really.
There was a british film about werwolves attacking a train. Quite enjoyable unfortunately I can't remember the title.
You shouldn't be worried about the one bullet with your name on it, Boldric. You should be worried about the ones labelled "to whom it may concern"-from Blackadder goes Forth!
No, it was a whole film set in the British rail. A late night train stops because of an obstacle in the tracks and the werewolves pick the passengers off one by one. Found it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howl_(2015_film)
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You shouldn't be worried about the one bullet with your name on it, Boldric. You should be worried about the ones labelled "to whom it may concern"-from Blackadder goes Forth!
Sounds like a version of the film where the black kid from Star Wars and his friends get attacked by space yetis, and have to hide in their apartment building
Ouze wrote: "There are more ratings" is dishonest. No one said one was better because one has more ratings. Similary dishonest is pretending we are comparing apples to oranges, like a high-end restaurant to a fast-food restaurant: These are both fairly mediocre film series featuring werewolves and vampires fighting (albeit one does climax in a swole smurf).
You're saying it's better. Better how?
The two 5 part series compared:
Underworld: averaged RT score of 24.6
Twilight: averaged RT score of 39.8
Underworld: averared metacritic score of 36.8
Twilight: averaged metacritic score of 51
Or one could use the "Brittney Spears vs. Aerosmith" argument - just because a bunch of tweens who grew up with it spent a boatload of money on it doesn't make it 'better'. The final analysis of 'better' is 'which one is still played regularly twenty or thirty years down the road.'
Also, while it's not a franchise, the 'best' vampire movie is What We Do In The Shadows.
Just checked my BTC and it's 2 years since I watched that! Had nothing planned for this afternoon, so thanks for the reminder. Absolute cracking film.
Oh, and we need a "Best Vampire Movie" thread ... Where's TechPriestSupport when you need him?
Would be fun, but once you get too many similar threads going the mods come in and either combine them - derailing everyone's train of thought - or just shut them down.
Maybe ones this one has run it's course and dropped off the front page they'll let us do 'best vampire'.
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Or one could use the "Brittney Spears vs. Aerosmith" argument - just because a bunch of tweens who grew up with it spent a boatload of money on it doesn't make it 'better'. The final analysis of 'better' is 'which one is still played regularly twenty or thirty years down the road.'
That is a nice, impersonal metric that works as a good starting point - longevity.
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Or one could use the "Brittney Spears vs. Aerosmith" argument - just because a bunch of tweens who grew up with it spent a boatload of money on it doesn't make it 'better'. The final analysis of 'better' is 'which one is still played regularly twenty or thirty years down the road.'
That is a nice, impersonal metric that works as a good starting point - longevity.
I find it to be the most reliable, overall.
The down side is, it's not exactly a fast metric to determine...
Well, prediction, underworld is basically forgotten now unless someone brings it up. Teenage girls however love the feth out of twilight and give way less of a gak about how the special effects will age.
Twilight will outlive underworld by a large margin.
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