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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:14:25
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Dakka Veteran
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His Master's Voice wrote:Ehhhh, not convinced by the spandex and running shoes...
I get that they didn't want to make them Witch Elves in space, but if they're going to be dressed, make that dress more interesting.
Technically good models, just not very interesting.
Not seeing any spandex. The trainer style shoes make a lot of sense. Only a complete idiot would go into battle barefoot, no matter what they're trying to prove or atone for. A warrior stripped of her sacred armor trying to atone through battle would still wear some shoes, and flexible athletic shoes with good grips makes the most sense. Its likely that what the repentia are wearing here is very similar to what sisters wear when not in full combat armor. Running shoes included.
I suppose its subjective, but I'd say that these new models are waaaaay more interesting than the old ones. the sculpting and poses are also much, much better.
Looking at some of the other complaints in this thread... Jesus, you people are just desperate to find things to complain about, no matter what. GW finally gives us good looking Repentia and you spend pages whining about power armor connector port, lack of nudity and sensible shoes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:17:26
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Hallowed Canoness
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jake wrote:Only a complete idiot would go into battle barefoot, no matter what they're trying to prove or atone for.
Dwarf slayers say hi, and also want to fight you to the death to either avenge that new offense or die trying in glorious battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:19:26
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Casbyness wrote:About the Matrix style "ports" in the skin. Here's my issue with those:
Sisters wear habits under their power armour. Robes long enough that the sleeves and bottoms fall out of said armour to a significant degree.
Are we now saying those robes have multiple holes punched through them, so the sister's body can interface directly with the armour? Really?
Try sticking something to your forearm and upper arm, then making holes in a top so that they accommodate the objects that are stuck in place, when your arm is outstretched. Now try bending your arm at the shoulder or elbow, and see what happens to the clothing.
Now imagine you have the same issue of the robe being tugged and ripped every which way, each time you twist your body or bend your spine.
Now imagine you're a Seraphim, jumping flying and bouncing all over the battlefield, wearing power armour locked directly to your body in fixed locations, like a Space Marine, but with an intervening robe chafing constantly in-between.
The ports are complete nonsense.
The robes are on the outside of the arm armor. They are likely not really habits at all but some decorative fabric added to the armor to simulate a habit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:21:27
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas
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ImAGeek wrote:Obispudkenobi wrote:For years we had "I want plastic sisters of battle ,I won't buy them until GW do them.in plastic"
2019 comes along
" I'm not buying these plastic sisters they are **insert entitled reason here**"
Not liking models isn’t entitlement.
When someone accuses another person of entitlement, what they usually mean is "shut up and consume the product, your perfectly reasonable protests are discouraging other consumers from consuming the product."
Customers can act as "entitled" as they want. If the supplier wants the customer's money, that had better listen to the customer's sense of entitlement, otherwise they aren't going to sell anything.
I've spent over £5,000 on SOB miniatures. I buy what I like. I do not like these Repentia. I would not paint or field them if you mailed them to me for free. If you don't like that, then you need to learn that other people are not always going to do what you want them to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:28:45
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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John Prins wrote:I'm okay with these Repentia. I was unlikely to field them anyways, unless they get rules that make them actually good rather than overpriced distractions. But sisters being buff? Totally makes sense - heck, they're probably subjected to muscle-growing chemical regimens from the get go. Cybernetic implants to help with power armor interface? Also makes sense, but still nowhere near the level of the black carapace. Military grade underwear and beach shoes? Sure, why not. Barefoot is no good for going into a combat zone, even for suicide troops.
And that's where they fall flat for me. They're...sensible. Like someone sat down and thought "OK, now how do we make a plausible version of this idea...", resulting in comfy sportswear, velcro-strap trainers, and substantially lower levels of impractical self-mutilation.
I mean, we all knew they wouldn't live up to the artwork, there's zero chance modern GW would open themselves up to the level of vitriolic backlash that would happen if models based on the "nudey girls with purity-pasties" got out into the normiesphere, at which point the "why" doesn't matter, the mere fact of nigh-nudity would be enough to kickstart the outrage machine.
But.
They didn't have to be reasonable. More mutilation. More chains. Keep the bare feet, and if the little plastic figures must be made chaste and modest, how about a nice ragged sackcloth tunic?
I don't care for the addition of plugs that look almost exactly like the Black Carapace plugs but totes aren't honest, but they're neither here nor there when it comes to the reason I don't care for the actual models - they're too tame.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:30:02
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I like the new Repentia design a whole lot better than the old, but I probably still won't buy them. I can stomach $50 for 5 of ther iconic power armored sisters minis...once. We're looking at what, $35 for 5 Repentia? My heart sings of love unfulfilled. And my wallet says hell no.
One of my favorite gags from the Spenser novels was the way he would size up every opponent before a fight and figure out what sport they play or training regimen they use to achieve their physique. The first thing the new pics brought to mind is that the repentia play a lot of tennis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:32:20
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I really like them - they look tough, dangerous and most important of all - not overly sexualized. The old ones makes me cringe a bit, and I would never paint them, but these ones look like they will be really fun to paint. Let’s just hope the rules makes them useful on the battlefield, dedicated elite cc units are currently very hit or miss.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:37:15
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Like them or not, I would kindly ask that people are a bit more polite in discussing their opinions with one another.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:38:22
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd certainly have preferred shifts (or sack cloth) instead t-shirt/shorts (I still wonder if some of them might be),
but it should be simple enough to greenstuff on a bit of extra cloth to give that effect if I have to
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:42:49
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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These are a swing and a miss for me. I get why they would want to move away from the previous, mostly-naked look for Repentia, but something like the normal Sister robes just without the armour would have been far more interesting, and looked far more 40K than this.
The poses are great, but the models themselves are just dull, and look more like they belong in Infinity than 40K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:46:03
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Oguhmek wrote:I really like them - they look tough, dangerous and most important of all - not overly sexualized. The old ones makes me cringe a bit, and I would never paint them, but these ones look like they will be really fun to paint. Let’s just hope the rules makes them useful on the battlefield, dedicated elite cc units are currently very hit or miss.
I don't think the old ones looked sexualized. They looked like a concept that had become sexualized... Like a school girl is not sexual... but because of a fetish, dressing something as a school girl is now sexual... but hooded, scarred women with weapons in itself was not really sexual...
I kind of like them, except the heads... and the clothing choice... If a 3rd party makes some hooded heads like the old art, then they will be fine...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:52:48
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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jake wrote:GW finally gives us good looking Repentia and you spend pages whining about power armor connector port, lack of nudity and sensible shoes.
Bald, broad shouldered, wifebeater, shorts, sports shoes, and cybernetic interface plugs.
I'll take "how you wouldn't have described repentia yesterday" for $100.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:55:49
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Really mixed feelings on these.
I think the poses are good, and the ports are a nice little expansion of the lore. The heads are great.
On the other hand I kind of hate the outfits they're wearing. I guess they're supposed to be sack cloths but truthfully they just look like rompers to me.
I'm not saying to go back to what they used to be, but I think I would have liked tabards or torn robes a lot better.
I don't hate them but they could have definitely been better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 19:58:38
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sim-Life wrote: MonkeyBallistic wrote: Sim-Life wrote:
I'm meh on the new sculpts. I liked the art where they were dressed in pinned on script. It took their religious fervour to extreme, terrifying levels. These sculpts just look like angry civilians, I don't get a "women driven to religious insanity by guilt seeking forgiveness in death" at all.
Being branded on the forehead and sticking massive bodkins through the flesh of your thigh doesn’t connote religious zeal?
Not the extent that the artwork depicts them as doing.

Except if you look, only the middle one really is doing that. She is an exception, the one next to her has a single spike and the other three have zero visible ones. So, you pretty much shoot your own argument dead.
Incidentally, the middle girl also has the two visible armour ports that are supposedly 'retcon' according to some (on head and neck, painted shiny and reflective unlike seals). So, that complain is pretty much dead too
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I like them, but the one worry I have is these 'unclothed' sisters will end up looking too similar size wise compared to the full armoured versions, and so look overly chunky by comparison
I am pretty sure they will, repentia are well built, while sisters in armour shown so far look like anorexic teenagers who ate last meal weeks ago (or the armour is painted on, there is no way someone as buff as these repentia can fit inside of it).
A.T. wrote:It is the antitheses of the 'grimdark/gothic' style isn't it. The model design actually makes the seals, mask, etc look out of place. They don't even have the chained hands of the originals.
It might look better painted. I can't help but feel that something more flowing like a tattered dress/robes/surcoat would have worked better. Even with a giant chainsaw they just look too... civilized.
This is supposed to be cilice I'd say judging by look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice
I don't know, I find it kind of funny something worn by actual religious fanatics during actual medieval Gothic era is somehow not 'gothic', whatever that means
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:00:15
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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jake wrote:The trainer style shoes make a lot of sense.
Which is pretty much exactly why they don't belong on 40K models. Fashion in 40K isn't supposed to be sensible...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:04:21
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Yodhrin wrote:
More mutilation. More chains. Keep the bare feet, and if the little plastic figures must be made chaste and modest, how about a nice ragged sackcloth tunic?
Show me any miniature and I’ll show you a piece of art that’s better. Not a fair comparison. What is though, is to compare them with the original Repentia sculpts. These new ones actually have more mutilation than the old ones. Keep the bare feet? The old ones didn’t have bare feet either.
As for the ragged sackcloth tunic, that’s how I’m going to paint them
I’m also not seeing trainers. They look like medieval style shoes to me without a heel and the strap seems to have some fleur de lys shaped fastening rather than Velcro.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:08:17
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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They are pretty much exactly how I expected them to be. I think I anticipated that they'd be wearing some kind of simple torso armor but they look about what I wanted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:08:27
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MonkeyBallistic wrote:What is though, is to compare them with the original Repentia sculpts. These new ones actually have more mutilation than the old ones. Keep the bare feet? The old ones didn’t have bare feet either.
And the old Repentia are almost universally regarded as being pretty terrible models in terms of execution...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:12:14
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like the eviscerators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:12:23
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Lord Damocles wrote: MonkeyBallistic wrote:What is though, is to compare them with the original Repentia sculpts. These new ones actually have more mutilation than the old ones. Keep the bare feet? The old ones didn’t have bare feet either.
And the old Repentia are almost universally regarded as being pretty terrible models in terms of execution...
Not really sure what your point is seeing as I’m arguing they’re better than the old ones in every way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:16:27
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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If it were a tabard-like design and/or rough surfaced with some kind of bindings i'd agree.
But the models are wearing wifebeaters. Hopefully unfinished - I can help but see that join point at the top of their shoulders and just how badly the arms match the bodies and make the top look like a half inch thick rubber shirt. It's the left arm on the third image that looks really, really badly fitting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:19:35
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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They completely sanitised the Repentia. There's nothing horrific about them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:22:02
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MonkeyBallistic wrote:Not really sure what your point is seeing as I’m arguing they’re better than the old ones in every way.
A pig without lipstick would be better than the old Repentia.
We all (presumably) recognize those new models are better on a technical level. We just don't agree on the execution of the idea being better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:22:34
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Having seen numerous women who work out regularly, including strengh workouts, I have to disagree.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:26:01
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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H.B.M.C. wrote:They completely sanitised the Repentia. There's nothing horrific about them.
Yeah cos if I saw a woman in the street who’d branded herself on the forehead and stuck massive needles through her thighs, I wouldn’t bat an eyelid either
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:32:36
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Where are these needles? I see a few cuts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:32:44
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Yeah cos if I saw a woman in the street who’d branded herself on the forehead and stuck massive needles through her thighs, I wouldn’t bat an eyelid either 
Context matters. Brands and piercings have always been fairly standard streetwear in 40K. Repentia needed to be more over-the-top. These aren't. They're too neat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:34:14
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Last two images, upper thigh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:34:53
Subject: [Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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H.B.M.C. wrote:They completely sanitised the Repentia. There's nothing horrific about them.
Their prices...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/07/22 20:35:03
Subject: Re:[Adepta Sororitas] Squad preview p.30.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They're certainly nicely done models in themselves, but at the same time I really don't think they've managed to properly capture the right sort of vibe, they're far too...tame? The whole idea of them before was that they were Battle Sisters who had commited some sort of sin or failing but were given a final chance to be worthy of taking their place alongside the Emperor through self-punishment and finding a worthwile sacrifice. The artwork of them going to the extent of blinding themselves, pinning iconoghraphy and wrapping themselves in parchment and purity seals or the chains and face coverings of the previous miniatures gave the impression that they considered themselves no longer worthy of being seen as individuals and could only be forgiven by going to those severe lengths, and their pennance was so they'd potentually end up "finding in death the absolution denied to them in life". These don't give that sort of impression to me at all. I get the impression they've changed the concept of them to something where it's more just a temporary punishment where it''s closer to "You've been bad, so you have to use a melee weapon and no armour for a while" without so much the fanatical or severe repenting side of things they had before.
There's the brand and the needles, but neither of those are really something with anywhere near the same sort of feel. They just look like un-armoured Battle Sisters for the most part.
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