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 alextroy wrote:
New Sister of Battle in November 2019!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/29/breaking-news-sisters-psykers-and-skeletonsgw-homepage-post-4/

There will be a Sister of Battle Army Set that include the new Codex and 25 models. Based on the video and announcement, I am expecting the following models all shown the various Bulletins:

Cannoness

Battle Sisters: 7 including Storm Bolter, Flamer, Imagifer, and Superior with Chainsword

Seraphim: 5 including Superior with Plasma Pistol and Power Sword

Sisters Repentia: 4

Mistress of Repentance

Penitent Engine

That's 19 models, so we will have to wait and see what the other 6 are.

Make it five Repentia, ten Sisters, throw in the Hospitaller, and add one more elite character like a standard bearer or dialogus. That would make 25 with sensible box numbers.

We need some good screenshots from the new trailer. Some very nice minis in there.

Love the Seraphim - the jump packs are fantastic. The Penitent Engine is really cool.

And there's a Mistress of Repentance (is that her name). Really nice mini. I wonder how that weirdo on Facebook feels about the Repentia's "agency" now.

The standard Sisters are good, except for the scenic bases. Every flamer girl's gonna be on that rising rubble.

Very pleased with the new models. I will be throwing all my hobby money their way.

Just click the image for the larger size.

I’m just going to assume that the penitent engine doesn’t have an alternate pilot.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We need some good screenshots from the new trailer. Some very nice minis in there.

Removed - Rule #1 please

A bit bummed about still no new units or vehicles, but we know not everything is revealed yet because they teased a new version of the rhino.
According to one of the screenshot from the video we will get a ten sisters squad.
What base size do you see?


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Damn, I was beaten to it.

Also, GW continues the long tradition of Sisters of Battle release having more male miniatures in them than the whole entire number of female release for all the space marines factions imperial and chaotic combined, lol.

There are images of the canoness sprue on instagram, no extra head options. Also looks like the plasma pistol is molded onto the back of the cape, no bolt pistol. What you see in the image is all you get. I'm kinda meh about this model so hopefully they go the primaris lieutenant route and give us another one with the fur collar shooting a pistol later on. Good thing is you can probably easily use any of the other heads in the sob kits instead.

Curious to see what the dialogus will look like, assuming we get one.

Hopefully, this is just a taste of what's to come. We still need Celestians, Retributors, our vehicles, and whatever characters they want to include. A Ministonum Priest kit would be nice, as would a unit of Arco-flagellants.


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I think I have a solution for the Penitent Engine pilot. Replace the the male pilot with a one of the banshees from the Mortis Engine. The one screaming with her arms crossed would be a perfect base for conversion. Paint her flesh-tone with some golden glowing eyes, and wrap her in hobby chain. Bam...a penitent Psyker being leached of it life-force to power the engine. Kind of a mirror to the Psykers being leached to death in the "psychic Choir" about the golden throne.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Make it five Repentia, ten Sisters, throw in the Hospitaller, and add one more elite character like a standard bearer or dialogus. That would make 25 with sensible box numbers.

I suspect 10 sisters and the imagifier as an 11th - GW won't be passing up the chance to box the banners and mistress separately from the squads (and I can't spot the stormbolter in the wide shot, which would make the 10th model of the squad).

So:
11 battle sisters (superior, flamer, stormbolter, imagifier)
5 seraphim
1 canoness
1 mistress (actually looking good IMO but... more palatine than mistress)
5 repentia
1 penitent engine
1 ...?

~£100 no doubt.

New units still missing in action it seems.

I’m.... not entirely sold on the Penitent Engine.

Looks a bit stubby to me?

I mean, it’s nice, and a good sculpt. Just wish it had longer legs.

A.T. wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Make it five Repentia, ten Sisters, throw in the Hospitaller, and add one more elite character like a standard bearer or dialogus. That would make 25 with sensible box numbers.

I suspect 10 sisters and the imagifier as an 11th - GW won't be passing up the chance to box the banners and mistress separately from the squads (and I can't spot the stormbolter in the wide shot, which would make the 10th model of the squad).

So:
11 battle sisters (superior, flamer, stormbolter, imagifier)
5 seraphim
1 canoness
1 mistress (actually looking good IMO but... more palatine than mistress)
5 repentia
1 penitent engine
1 ...?

~£100 no doubt.

New units still missing in action it seems.

Also some form of limited edition codex, as per the preview article. I would like to feel good about this box, but a limited codex plus brand new models means I'm probably going to have a heart attack upon seeing the price.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m.... not entirely sold on the Penitent Engine.

Looks a bit stubby to me?

I mean, it’s nice, and a good sculpt. Just wish it had longer legs.

I'd call it classic. It combined with the basic Sisters is actually a beautiful sight after seeing what they did to Shrike (and most of the Primaris line so far).

It's a no nonsense walker with Imperial gothic design cues and a minimum of modernized vehicle bits found on other, especially Mechanicus models.

From the picture we've got I'd say it's a respectful translation into plastic and I'm happy that much of the Sisters range in this box can claim the same. Shame Repentias are an exception.

Thats a really nice looking range of minis so far.
Was never a sisters fanboi but GW have done a good job so far model-wise with them imo.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
It's a no nonsense walker

- Exposed, almost naked driver
- No nonsense walker
Choose one.

I was talking looks and design of the actual vehicle, but I'm pretty sure exposing known heretics to enemy fire is as serious as business gets. Protecting the pilot is nonsense.

A.T. wrote:

~£100 no doubt.

And the rest

 Yodhrin wrote:

This is actually a thing in 40K. In one of the Eisenhorn novels he goes to a Shrineworld to get his sword blessed before confronting the Big Bad, it's basically a desert planet, and the Ecclesiarchy release huge swarms of purpose-bred yellow finch-esque birds every single day(they have some symbolism related to the world's saint), and they fly off and die pretty much immediately in the punishing heat, to the point that the plains around the city are practically carpeted with countless bleached bird bones.

Thats fantastically grimdark.

I think my doves will be an invasive species bred for grace and aggression that the sisters release as part of missionary interventions(invasions) that attack and replace local flying creatures.

Or y'know.
meltadoves- inshallah.

 Geifer wrote:
but I'm pretty sure exposing known heretics to enemy fire is as serious as business gets. Protecting the pilot is nonsense.

So the aim is to have a big expensive powerful machine that can be disabled as easily as possible .
Unlike arcoflagellants, penitent engines never made sense to me.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Unlike arcoflagellants, penitent engines never made sense to me.

The original engines were spare legs off a sentinel attached to crude arms and a power pack probably adapted from industrial/farming equipment. The penitent themselves had their skull/brain protected and what looked like enough life support to keep them alive and conscious while their body was shot to bits - kind of a firing squad by proxy.

The new ones don't have the same cobbled together look.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
but I'm pretty sure exposing known heretics to enemy fire is as serious as business gets. Protecting the pilot is nonsense.

So the aim is to have a big expensive powerful machine that can be disabled as easily as possible .
Unlike arcoflagellants, penitent engines never made sense to me.

The aim is to go through religious ritual. A penitent is given the chance to redeem themselves by getting killed in the Emperor's service. The thing the Ecclesiarchy is spending its money on is not an effective war machine and the Ecclesiarchy's concern is not the enemy it is sent against, it's all about saving the heretic. You can't put a price on salvation.

I have to say, seeing the Canoness painted does not improve my opinion of her model.

 vipoid wrote:
I have to say, seeing the Canoness painted does not improve my opinion of her model.

Same. I'm actually less on board with the head than I was with the render. I think I'd prefer a helmet to go with all the stuff she's wearing because all the fabric seems a little overpowering to me. I still think it's decent model without that collar.

At least I don't dislike Repentias even more now, because, you know, rock bottom ain't got no basement.

"limited edition codex" makes me wonder if it's going to be a mini paperback codex covering just the models in the box, like the Vanguard & Daemonkin books.

Then once everyone has had a chance to get their army box painted up they'll drop the full codex and rest of the range in early 2020.

 Geifer wrote:
At least I don't dislike Repentias even more now, because, you know, rock bottom ain't got no basement.

Greenstuffed robes and boots still look to be the way forward with them.

They have the vibe of models from a different range that have been kitbashed into sisters by putting a slightly too large SoB head onto one of them... though I suppose in that regard the penitent engine still stands out like a sore thumb until we have the arcos, zealots, and other ecclesiarchal models to put alongside it. Perhaps the nu-repentia will fit visually with those.

 xttz wrote:
"limited edition codex" makes me wonder if it's going to be a mini paperback codex covering just the models in the box, like the Vanguard & Daemonkin books.

Then once everyone has had a chance to get their army box painted up they'll drop the full codex and rest of the range in early 2020.

I wouldn't want to rule it out and frankly I'd prefer this as I doubt a codex pamphlet would drive up the price of the box, but the thing that makes me suspect it's the full codex is the use of limited edition. If I recall correctly none of the previous battle boxes and the like that included rules went beyond calling what's in the box a codex.

Limited edition codex very much sounds like GW wants to sell this as added value. Worst case scenario, it's like a limited edition codex for other armies but packaged in a box with models to ask for an extra high price.

With the way it's presented in the article, I'm getting the distinct impression that when they say "dedicated to you die-hard Sisters of Battle fans as a reward for your unwavering faith", the reward they have in mind is meant for themselves by getting people who have waited so long for plastic Sisters to part with that extra bit of cash by dangling a super special deal in front of them.

A.T. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
At least I don't dislike Repentias even more now, because, you know, rock bottom ain't got no basement.

Greenstuffed robes and boots still look to be the way forward with them.

They have the vibe of models from a different range that have been kitbashed into sisters by putting a slightly too large SoB head onto one of them... though I suppose in that regard the penitent engine still stands out like a sore thumb until we have the arcos, zealots, and other ecclesiarchal models to put alongside it. Perhaps the nu-repentia will fit visually with those.

Robes and boots will be the easiest fix (though not to my taste), and if you did that then I could see Repentias actually go well with random zealots and other non-Sister Ecclesiarchy stuff. I have a hard time imagining the stock models to ever fit well with anything in this army.

I actually was assuming that by limited edition, they meant it had different cover art compared to the normal production codex, like the limited cover codexes when new ones are releases.

That Mistress of Repentance is a good basis for a somewhat less ostentatious Canoness.

 Geifer wrote:
The aim is to go through religious ritual. A penitent is given the chance to redeem themselves by getting killed in the Emperor's service. The thing the Ecclesiarchy is spending its money on is not an effective war machine and the Ecclesiarchy's concern is not the enemy it is sent against, it's all about saving the heretic. You can't put a price on salvation.

Ok but then make it a T3 HP2/3 model or something.

The cannoness will definitely have to loose those nipple tassels.

Pretty fething spectacular though so far. I really hope they don't futz with either the immolator or the exorcist as those still hold up really well as far as kits go. Just make em into plastic and call it a day.

Speaking of plastic..... WHERE'S THE GOD-EMPEROR DAMNED REPRESSORS ALREADY?!

It's a bit disconcerting that you can tell the repeated bodies/poses of the sisters in the trailer. The Repentias on the left have identical chainswords, the two sisters on the left are identical, save for the head, etc. It's a bit of a minor nitpick, but it is still fairly noticeable.

What are the chances of a second pilot for the Penitent Engine? I love the first one, but a male and female option like the current set would guarantee me buying a second kit. (if the other pilots also good)

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
The aim is to go through religious ritual. A penitent is given the chance to redeem themselves by getting killed in the Emperor's service. The thing the Ecclesiarchy is spending its money on is not an effective war machine and the Ecclesiarchy's concern is not the enemy it is sent against, it's all about saving the heretic. You can't put a price on salvation.

Ok but then make it a T3 HP2/3 model or something.

Not going to happen, but since I don't play 8th ed I don't care either way.

It would be funny to have hit zones again, though. 8th ed can't do that with its rules framework, but it would be funny to have a one in three chance of hitting the way squishier pilot from the front arc, only for players to figure out a loophole in GW's writing and moonwalk their Penitent Engines towards the enemy.

It has been noted that there is a fair bit of pose duplication going on - only three distinct seraphim body/leg sculpts, three? bolter poses, same with the repentia.