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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Don't they often work with Witch Hunters / Ordo Hereticus, who are psyker hunters?
Don't they also have a weapon that specializes in killing psykers?

The ordo hereticus was originally set up after the incident with Vandire and is primarily interested in heresy. This does tend to lead them towards the mutant and from there the witch but not as a specialisation - if someone like Ahriman popped up it's more something for the malleus, whereas rampant xenos psychic activity would be the area of the ordo xenos (for instance).

The sisters specialist weapon for killing psykers is the flamer*. Burn the witch and all that.

(*also a combi stake-crossbow for character models, which in 8th edition is functionally a very picky stormbolter. It is amongst the new plastic weapons so perhaps that will change)

 Snrub wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The resin Canoness from 2-3 years back is on the block too.

No she's not. She's just direct only!

Huh it shows up in the Last Chance list but didn't have the icon. So maybe it'll stick around.

(My God I hate webp images, can't upload them....)

Yeah, what's up with them?

Racerguy180 wrote:

drbored wrote:
Sisters of Silence =/= Sisters of Battle.

I'm glad the SoS are getting rules in a White Dwarf at least, but they don't belong in the Sisters of Battle book at all. If anything, they should have been put into the Custodes book.

I concur.

SOS love BiggiE for being a man.
SOB love BiggiE for being a god.

something tells me they wouldnt work well together.

to be fair, Chaos books have Tzeentch followers who flippin' love a bit of magic as well as Khorne followers who probably dismember folks who can shuffle cards, so...

A.T. wrote:
The ordo hereticus was originally set up after the incident with Vandire and is primarily interested in heresy. This does tend to lead them towards the mutant and from there the witch but not as a specialisation - if someone like Ahriman popped up it's more something for the malleus, whereas rampant xenos psychic activity would be the area of the ordo xenos (for instance).

Thanks, that's what I was trying to say, but obviously failed to convey.

Hmm... Archo's are on LCTB.

I think that's a positive thing.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Or they're both good at hunting psykers,

SoB are especially good at hunting psykers? I thought they were just good at rooting out heresy, which is entirely different.

pm713 wrote:
Sisters are the only force to not have psykers in the Imperium that are also widespread

Except for Mechanicus, and most IG regiment don't have psykers either…

I thought their whole faith thing made them more resistant to psychic powers making them good anti psykers?

IG have enough psykers to count and I'll admit I forgot Mechanicus existed.

Their faith makes them slightly more resistant, but that doesn't usually matter, because it's just a pretty slight increase. In my opinion the only case where it could come handy is if dealing with a mind control psyker that was powerful enough to control other forces but not powerful enough to control Sister, if that happens, but that's a very rare situation afaict.

Also it doesn't matter how many IG regiment include psykers because IG regiments that do not include psykers still far outnumber SoB.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Archo's are on LCTB.

I think that's a positive thing.

How so? Do you think it means their in the codex or that it's a sign of life for the Inquisition?

pm713 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Or they're both good at hunting psykers,

SoB are especially good at hunting psykers? I thought they were just good at rooting out heresy, which is entirely different.

pm713 wrote:
Sisters are the only force to not have psykers in the Imperium that are also widespread

Except for Mechanicus, and most IG regiment don't have psykers either…

I thought their whole faith thing made them more resistant to psychic powers making them good anti psykers?
.

Fluffwise, yes. In game terms, the last several versions of the rule have been awful and extremely corner case.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Archo's are on LCTB.

I think that's a positive thing.

How so? Do you think it means their in the codex or that it's a sign of life for the Inquisition?

Two or three Battle Sister Bulletins back we saw one feature in the foreground of new artwork. It was speculated that because f that we might reasonably expect plastic Arco-Flagellants. Seeing the old models go reinforces that.

I'd have preferred to see new Deathcult Assassins myself, though. Not a good sign to see the old metals continue to be sold.

 Geifer wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Archo's are on LCTB.

I think that's a positive thing.

How so? Do you think it means their in the codex or that it's a sign of life for the Inquisition?

Two or three Battle Sister Bulletins back we saw one feature in the foreground of new artwork. It was speculated that because f that we might reasonably expect plastic Arco-Flagellants. Seeing the old models go reinforces that.

I'd have preferred to see new Deathcult Assassins myself, though. Not a good sign to see the old metals continue to be sold.

Its sightly odd as they already have a plastic Deathcult Asssassin in the Rogue Trader set. Seeing as they have done the giant Acro's I am assuming they will do the same for the small ones

A.T. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
sheesh no wonder gw doesn't usually bother to release anything for xenos as whiny players complain with all those releases as not enough. guess gw would need to release 100 kits in a month to satisfy people.

It has been ~184 months since GW released a new unit for the sisters. No new units have yet been announced for this year.

Man, Veridiugly and Celestine with sidekicks come out 16 years ago? Man, the time sure does flow!

And that's if we ignore FW sister units, ecclesiarchy expansion around 5th edition, and the BSF minis...

 Mr Morden wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
6-7 kits, boxed set and codex not releases to back it up?

sheesh no wonder gw doesn't usually bother to release anything for xenos as whiny players complain with all those releases as not enough. guess gw would need to release 100 kits in a month to satisfy people.

Pure Marine players have reason to be so entitled - they normally get something every week and are shocked if they don't.....

I really hope this was just a weak troll, because if not, you just proved his point better than any argument could have. Marine players had two releases this edition, first wave of primaris 3 years ago and and comically drawn out second wave that GW couldn't release fully for whatever reason so it doesn't even count as a full one yet. Ok, two and a half if we're generous and count demo units of wave 2 from Shadowspear as anything approaching one. Two releases in three years, when Nurgle alone had 4 times that, never mind other armies, the horror!

 Irbis wrote:
Man, Veridiugly and Celestine with sidekicks come out 16 years ago? Man, the time sure does flow!
And that's if we ignore FW sister units, ecclesiarchy expansion around 5th edition, and the BSF minis...

Units.

Celestine 2004, Canoness 1993. All forgeworld sororitas units were released pre-witch hunters.
The 'ecclesiarchy expansion' was Jacobus and Kyrinov - models from 1997 that had been discontinued in 3rd.

Marine players ever whinging about other factions getting releases should really calm down and think about things a little.

as a current Salamanders player, I wish everyone else would get new models to replace all of the finecast crap across the board.

As a soon to be Sororitas collector/player I am looking forward to a full army refresh that doesnt involve Marines.

Any other Marine player whining about non-astartes release needs to get the flyin funk off their high horse and shut up.

 Irbis wrote:

A.T. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
sheesh no wonder gw doesn't usually bother to release anything for xenos as whiny players complain with all those releases as not enough. guess gw would need to release 100 kits in a month to satisfy people.

It has been ~184 months since GW released a new unit for the sisters. No new units have yet been announced for this year.

Man, Veridiugly and Celestine with sidekicks come out 16 years ago? Man, the time sure does flow!

And that's if we ignore FW sister units, ecclesiarchy expansion around 5th edition, and the BSF minis...

 Mr Morden wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
6-7 kits, boxed set and codex not releases to back it up?

sheesh no wonder gw doesn't usually bother to release anything for xenos as whiny players complain with all those releases as not enough. guess gw would need to release 100 kits in a month to satisfy people.

Pure Marine players have reason to be so entitled - they normally get something every week and are shocked if they don't.....

I really hope this was just a weak troll, because if not, you just proved his point better than any argument could have. Marine players had two releases this edition, first wave of primaris 3 years ago and and comically drawn out second wave that GW couldn't release fully for whatever reason so it doesn't even count as a full one yet. Ok, two and a half if we're generous and count demo units of wave 2 from Shadowspear as anything approaching one. Two releases in three years, when Nurgle alone had 4 times that, never mind other armies, the horror!

Looks at the releases from Forgeworld - as usual sees new Marines including the Levianthan Dreadnought people get so excited about FOR 40K

Looks back at the last month for 40k releases - sees something new every week for Marines

Dismisses argument as fately flawedand orignally statement as completely correct.

Guess a new model every week is not enough for some.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Snrub wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The resin Canoness from 2-3 years back is on the block too.

No she's not. She's just direct only!

Huh it shows up in the Last Chance list but didn't have the icon. So maybe it'll stick around.

It's because the Community post links to GWs Adepta Sororitas section, not their LCTB. At the time the WC post went up, they weren't in the LCTB section, but are now.

LTCB section has 20 results, AS has 30.

 Irbis wrote:
And that's if we ignore FW sister units, ecclesiarchy expansion around 5th edition

What are those, and how comes I never heard about them???

Don't play Irbis' game. The man exists to jump into the threads and say "No! U wrong!" with the most tenuous of nitpicks.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
How so? Do you think it means their in the codex or that it's a sign of life for the Inquisition?

I think it means they're in the Codex and they're getting a plastic kit.

 Irbis wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
6-7 kits, boxed set and codex not releases to back it up?

sheesh no wonder gw doesn't usually bother to release anything for xenos as whiny players complain with all those releases as not enough. guess gw would need to release 100 kits in a month to satisfy people.

Pure Marine players have reason to be so entitled - they normally get something every week and are shocked if they don't.....

I really hope this was just a weak troll, because if not, you just proved his point better than any argument could have. Marine players had two releases this edition, first wave of primaris 3 years ago and and comically drawn out second wave that GW couldn't release fully for whatever reason so it doesn't even count as a full one yet. Ok, two and a half if we're generous and count demo units of wave 2 from Shadowspear as anything approaching one. Two releases in three years, when Nurgle alone had 4 times that, never mind other armies, the horror!

You could to go Tokyo 2020 with that level of gymnastics.

This has to be the most disingenuous argument I have ever seen you made in this forum. And that was a high bar to pass.

Some (additional) new Death Cult assassins would be pretty neat.

The new Penitent Engine looks fantastic IMO.

I don't think Death Cult Assassins are part of the deal though. They're not related to the Adepta Sororitas or the Ministorum in general (unlike, say, Archos).

Yes, it'd be nice to have them, but I think they're beyond the scope of this specific release.

I think we'd have to wait for a new Inquisitorial release, but given the current attitude at GW, that seems less than likely. =][= are now stuck in a not-as-extreme-but-still similar position to what the Genestealer Cults had before their reemergence.

I can see death cultists being rolled in with SoS in a later codex, actually. Tweak their background so they are mostly (minor) nulls and end up in death cults because they’re estranged from anyone remotely sane by their power, but they aren’t of the calibre that can be trained and focused to make a true Null Maiden so the Order of Silence sponsors the cults on the sly with training and equipment and in turn gets an off-the-books auxilia.

would be nice to get plastic death cultists, as much as I like my finecast models, it would be preferable to have them in plastic and not limited to 2 poses.
Hopefully the codex has a place for them or at least reserve them for an Inquisitor/witch hunters supplement or something.

Racerguy180 wrote:
would be nice to get plastic death cultists, as much as I like my finecast models, it would be preferable to have them in plastic and not limited to 2 poses.
Hopefully the codex has a place for them or at least reserve them for an Inquisitor/witch hunters supplement or something.

Death Cultists have a special place in my heart. Lots of ways to make a knife/sword type unit, but it take a special bit of madness to decide they will be a cult of all-girl cyborg bondage ninjas in ripped gimp suits.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
I can see death cultists being rolled in with SoS in a later codex, actually. Tweak their background so they are mostly (minor) nulls and end up in death cults because they’re estranged from anyone remotely sane by their power, but they aren’t of the calibre that can be trained and focused to make a true Null Maiden so the Order of Silence sponsors the cults on the sly with training and equipment and in turn gets an off-the-books auxilia.

I don't see why SoS or Death Cultists would/should be rolled into SoBs.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Death Cultists have a special place in my heart. Lots of ways to make a knife/sword type unit, but it take a special bit of madness to decide they will be a cult of all-girl cyborg bondage ninjas in ripped gimp suits.

IIRC that's down to the models being based on two specific characters from the 54mm Inquisition game (Severina and Sevora).

It's a shame they've never been expanded on as a unit since death cultists could fill the roll of sniper, infiltrator, etc in a faction that lacks it.

Racerguy180 wrote:
would be nice to get plastic death cultists, as much as I like my finecast models, it would be preferable to have them in plastic and not limited to 2 poses.
Hopefully the codex has a place for them or at least reserve them for an Inquisitor/witch hunters supplement or something.

They have a plastic Death Cultist in the Rogue Trader set already....

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Archo's are on LCTB.

I think that's a positive thing.

How so? Do you think it means their in the codex or that it's a sign of life for the Inquisition?

Two or three Battle Sister Bulletins back we saw one feature in the foreground of new artwork. It was speculated that because f that we might reasonably expect plastic Arco-Flagellants. Seeing the old models go reinforces that.

I'd have preferred to see new Deathcult Assassins myself, though. Not a good sign to see the old metals continue to be sold.

Its sightly odd as they already have a plastic Deathcult Asssassin in the Rogue Trader set. Seeing as they have done the giant Acro's I am assuming they will do the same for the small ones

My take is that the lone Death Cult Assassin and Crusader are used as incentives to buy their respective boxed sets and their existence is enough to make GW feel comfortable giving Death Cult Assassins and Crusaders rules/unit entries. Arco-Flagellants need a new plastic kit for that given the metal models are dropped (which we can assume is an expression of GW's desire to remove all non-plastic models from the Sisters range while they're giving them their update).

If you assume minimum effort on GW's part, it's the logical conclusion. And given Sisters' history, assuming that should come easy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't think Death Cult Assassins are part of the deal though. They're not related to the Adepta Sororitas or the Ministorum in general (unlike, say, Archos).

GW seems to put them with the Ministorum these days. Death Cult Assassins were introduced as Inquisition assets but ever since the concept of keywords entered the game, in this case factions in 7th ed, Death Cult Assassins were a Ministorum unit. It's part of why the Imperial Agents codex put the Inquisition in an even sorrier state that they've been in.

No guarantees, of course, but for now I have no reason to believe Death Cult Assassins (and Crusaders) won't be in the Sisters codex.

News! and, I am disappoint.