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 Sarouan wrote:

Aibishter wrote:
What the hell is Miracle Dice

Certainly the new Acts of Faith mechanism.

That and 'sacred rites' at least.

 Sarouan wrote:

Aibishter wrote:
What the hell is Miracle Dice

Certainly the new Acts of Faith mechanism.

What does that mean? Are the dice themselves physically different? Or it's just rules?

Aibishter wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:

Aibishter wrote:
What the hell is Miracle Dice

Certainly the new Acts of Faith mechanism.

What does that mean? Are the dice themselves physically different? Or it's just rules?

I'm pretty sure they were talking about the army's special rules, and they will certainly use dice as ressources for Miracles or something.

Whatever their function, I'd have much preferred it if the included dice were not the most basic dice around. Feels very out of place in what's presented as a fancy box.

It does appear there are enough helmeted or bare heads to outfit all basic troopers with either (which makes sense, with those being the only variable parts and the sprues appearing self-contained, i.e. having all parts for specific models). Not many options in the unique sprue though. But at least some spares then, so there is the option to swap the head of the Canoness with bits included in the box for example.

Not sure what the point of a 2 week pre-order period is if the box sells out the same day, but here's hoping they've made a half decent number for a change.

Bob Lorgar wrote:I'm going with

The jump pack is the thing propelling her forward. Why is she twisted so it's thrust is going to go 90 degrees to the direction she seems to actually be moving?

It's like modeling a jet flying sideways.

you mean like nudging the rudder? also how would you accomplish a barrel roll without flying sideways?

I would guess that since they can fly in 360°, it makes sense that their momentum would continue while they reposition their body.

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Grundz wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:
I think the "act of faith" replacement are the 6 "Sacred Rites" cards.

However, what caught my eyes with the cards is the fact they got 38 stratagems.
That's a LOT.
Tau for comparison have 25, so does DA (26 if you count "the lion and the wolf"), deamons a mere 19.

I suspect they already have multiple stratagems for every order baked into the codex itself.

Yeah thats a good number - can;t really compare to Marines as would need to add up all those available over ALL the codexes supplements and now PA where they got another load.

1 stratagem card for each subfaction
1 unique stratagem for each subfaction


that brings them down to 24 stratagems, which is inline with what others have

Except my numbers were INCLUDING subfaction stratagems.
And i don't understand what you count. you counted 2 stratagems for each subfaction?
Because AFAIK they don't make cards for the subfactions themselves.

All the Major Orders got specific cards in Appoclaypse - most subfactions get a few - Dark Eldar ones def did - Marines get loads for each and dozens for parent subfaction

zamerion wrote:
Im really interesting in that "NEW" miniatures.

Focused on ecclesiarchy would be very interesting, and frateris militia

Not sure that the militia would need new models though https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Necromunda-Cawdor-Gang-2018

Quite disappointed by the amount of duplicated minis in that set, tbh.

Aibishter wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:

Aibishter wrote:
What the hell is Miracle Dice

Certainly the new Acts of Faith mechanism.

What does that mean? Are the dice themselves physically different? Or it's just rules?

Dude...we don't have time to tn around and come get you, just smile and nod and we'll get you on the next go round.

The cynic in me says that the Codex is limited edition as it won't contain any pictures of new units 'cause they're not out yet.

You'll only get pics of the new stuff in the actual Codex.

Well they have stated several times its a full codex and its not limited but special art.

What the difference is remains to be seen

Its already been said, officially, that its the full codex, the only codex, barring the 'limited edition' cover.

Why are there still these weird conspiracies about the codex? It’s pretty explicit that it’s the full proper codex with just a different cover.

Never said it wouldn't have the new units in it, only that it wouldn't have pictures/artwork of them because GW is #SuperSecret about this nonsense.

I mean, GW even says this in that unboxing article:

"If you’re good, and the God-Emperor is watching, we may even show you a sneak preview of these models nearer the time."

How can they provide a sneak peak of something closer to their release if we've already seen them in the Codex?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Never said it wouldn't have the new units in it, only that it wouldn't have pictures/artwork of them because GW is #SuperSecret about this nonsense.

I mean, GW even says this in that unboxing article:

"If you’re good, and the God-Emperor is watching, we may even show you a sneak preview of these models nearer the time."

How can they provide a sneak peak of something closer to their release if we've already seen them in the Codex?

I assumed that meant closer to the release date of the boxed set - did the SM codex have pics of the unreleased untis?

The new Marine units were already previewed prior to the book coming out, and then released in waves.

For someone who was completely rambling about how Sisters of Battle players were never happy and complaining all the time, HBMC sure seems to not be happy and complain about this release.
Betting there will be pictures of all the new models in the codex personally.

They showed with the Space Marine dex that they don’t mind having pics of things in the book that won’t be out for a few months (Impulsor, Incursors).

 ImAGeek wrote:
They showed with the Space Marine dex that they don’t mind having pics of things in the book that won’t be out for a few months (Impulsor, Incursors).

Seems likely they will do the same again then

There are, after all, 3 weeks to preview things in the Codex.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Never said it wouldn't have the new units in it, only that it wouldn't have pictures/artwork of them because GW is #SuperSecret about this nonsense.

I mean, GW even says this in that unboxing article:

"If you’re good, and the God-Emperor is watching, we may even show you a sneak preview of these models nearer the time."

How can they provide a sneak peak of something closer to their release if we've already seen them in the Codex?

They mean nearer to the release of the box, precisely to get ahead of them appearing on the internet otherwise.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They mean nearer to the release of the box, precisely to get ahead of them appearing on the internet otherwise.

You could be very right actually. They did say that the final bulletin would be a pretty important one, so it could be that.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
For someone who was completely rambling about how Sisters of Battle players were never happy and complaining all the time, HBMC sure seems to not be happy and complain about this release.
Betting there will be pictures of all the new models in the codex personally.

I'm perfectly fine with this release. I think the models look great (oversized stain glass window notwithstanding) and I'm glad to see things like Archos getting a new lease on life as a plastic kit.

But I started my post before with "the cynic in me". Guess SoB players don't understand that word, having spent years being too jaded at basically everything and complaining about anything and everything that ever happened to their precious armies.

I’d imagine they’ve seeded preview copies to the usual suspects under embargo, so would know anything new would be revealed by them... may as well do a proper GW reveal first!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They mean nearer to the release of the box, precisely to get ahead of them appearing on the internet otherwise.

You could be very right actually. They did say that the final bulletin would be a pretty important one, so it could be that.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
For someone who was completely rambling about how Sisters of Battle players were never happy and complaining all the time, HBMC sure seems to not be happy and complain about this release.
Betting there will be pictures of all the new models in the codex personally.

I'm perfectly fine with this release. I think the models look great (oversized stain glass window notwithstanding) and I'm glad to see things like Archos getting a new lease on life as a plastic kit.

But I started my post before with "the cynic in me". Guess SoB players don't understand that word, having spent years being too jaded at basically everything and complaining about anything and everything that ever happened to their precious armies.

I'd make a rebuttal of your complaints about your army but you complain so constantly and consistently about every topic that comes up I doubt you have enough time between bouts of whinging to actually have an army.

 Albertorius wrote:
Quite disappointed by the amount of duplicated minis in that set, tbh.

Didn't notice it until you mentioned it, but yeah, quite a few are doubles with essentially head swaps.

2 sprue, a double sprue, and a character sprue = bucket load of sprues.

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I'm presuming that the different heads will be on the same sprues, so you will end up with spare heads. Kinda reminds me of the current Space Marine Heroes (or whatever it's called) Japanese thing with the Plague Marines. They've each got a helmeted head and regular head, and any you don't use can be put to use elsewhere. Very good for those who think that Sisters helmets look ace and want to use them everywhere.

ERJAK wrote:
... you complain so constantly and consistently about every topic that comes up...

I know, right? I mean just look how dang negative I'm being. All the time. Everywhere!

I mean how can anyone read such endless negativity? Look at it all:King Theoden was right all along! What can men do against such reckless hate?

fething clown shoes...

The helmeted and not helmeted options were present in Space Marine Heroes 1 and 2 as well, glad that they appear to have continued that with this box.

Personally I think this box is an OK value proposition, but that is in light of the current Necromunda: Dark Uprising and increased campaign box prices.

I see the £125 broken down as (bear in mind I have priced the minis as monopose plastics):

Codex £25
Data cards: £10
Dice: N/A for those dull things.
Cannonness:£15
Sister Squad £25
Seraphim: £15
Repentia: £15
Arco's: £5 (too cheap, yes but am not keen on them).
Penitent Engine £15.

If you can get it at 20% for £100 then that is not too bad. But as an "army" I do not think the set amounts to a lot of points but is a fair start to something bigger. I just hope they have made enough to satisfy the demand, we shall see...

H.B.M.C the reason people might be calling you out is your frankly rediculous opinion that the limited edition Codex will not be the same Codex the non-limited one will be in regards to content.

You know well and true GW make no difference to content for such things, just fancy cover changes. Bring all incredulous that people will point this out to you. I don't know if you are legit bring serious or purposefully posting bait for replies.

The miracle die left me confused, seems like they needed some hype at the end there. But forgot to read though them for an interesting tidbit.

I may pick this one up at this point, I have thousands of points of sisters. So hopefully the book is a good read and they will get kill team rules out for them.