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 Dysartes wrote:

Aye, a Lt. equivalent would've been handy - or, as previously noted, a generic version of the Battle Pulpit.

Yes. Or both. And it wouldn't have taken any new kits either. The Canoness kit can just as well represent a Palatine, and the flying pulpit already has an alternative head to represent a generic version.

 Overread wrote:
Assembling 2K models in one day?! Even with brand new sculpts that's a freaking long day with all the mould line cleaning to achieve.

Well 2k includes what i already have. But yeh it's hefty project. And do have second day as back up. But need 'em primed and glued to bases for first game fast


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BrianDavion wrote:
whatever our issues can we all just be glad this isn't going to be stretched out like the Marines release?

We actually don't know that. Who says they come in consequetive time? Gw hasn't said anything official on when last come. Best we can surmise is end of march is last preorder day for sure if past patterns hold

tneva82 wrote:

Well 2k includes what i already have. But yeh it's hefty project. And do have second day as back up. But need 'em primed and glued to bases for first game fast

And painted!

 Crimson wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Well 2k includes what i already have. But yeh it's hefty project. And do have second day as back up. But need 'em primed and glued to bases for first game fast

And painted!

Unnecessary!


And for tneva, they can't really afford to string this one out because the army is basically unplayable(without a bunch of extra metals) until the canoness and imagifier come out. Missionaries are metal(and out of stock) and you can only take 1 per detachment, junith is Order locked, the Triumph is bad, and Veridyan and Amena, while usable as canonesses have 2 of the worst loadouts you can have, and a huge amount of the defensive capabilities of the new SoB army revolves around imagifier bubbles.


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 Tastyfish wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

changemod wrote:
It’s pretty reasonable to class being annoyed priests don’t get chapter tactics as picky.

No, it's not. "Priests" (or, rather, "Missionaries", the HQ variant) aren't members of the Adepta Sororitas, and I am playing an Adepta Sororitas army. Stop being unreasonable.

This seems a bit like being mad Blood Thirsters can't be pyskers like other greater deamons and that means there's no way to get psychic powers into a pure Khorne army. Half the Sororitas specialists don't get chapter tactics, and many of them are irrelevant to these models anyway.

You want to use part of the army list, then sure. But you can't complain about lack of options when you're not taking some of the options. Especially as you can rank "Canonesses" with WL traits and relics, or combinations of the two. The "one to watch" is literally the one you pick to use the strat whilst your warlord hangs back and takes more of a supportive/stat boosting role.

Mortifiers also aren't Sisters and also don't get Order Convictions. A Repentia who has redeemed herself but still feels unworthy to fight alongside her erstwhile sisters seems the ideal candidate for a missionary to accompany a 'pure' sisters army.
She wants to fight one last time for her Order before settling down on the world she's saved, or they've come back at her request on hearing her cry for help via the old Sororitas back channels.

Taking repentia...without priests? Can you do that? Why would you do that?

 Tastyfish wrote:
This seems a bit like being mad Blood Thirsters can't be pyskers

That's not even remotely a good comparison at all, and has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

Stop making dishonest arguments.

Repentia are, in the lore, actually a part of the Adepta Sororitas as a whole. They are Sisters have been sent on Repentia duty in order to repent for their sins, perceived or otherwise, and they're still Adepta Sororitas regardless (and Repentia have <ORDER> as well, so your point is irrelevant). The new Mortifier unit is a Repentia that couldn't redeem herself, and is also a part of the Adepta Sororitas, for the same reason, even if they lack <ORDER> tag.

 Crimson wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Well 2k includes what i already have. But yeh it's hefty project. And do have second day as back up. But need 'em primed and glued to bases for first game fast

And painted!

No i don't. I don"' need 'em painted even for the first tournament they will be used. I will paint them as fast as possible but with aos escalation league and lotr tournament needing some focus and will need to make terrain for own lotr tournament i can't paint 100% time. And won't wait months to play.


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ERJAK wrote:

Taking repentia...without priests? Can you do that? Why would you do that?

I ran 7 without priest saturday in tournament. Worked pretty well actually as cheap counter punch. 10 warp talons at my back? Choppity chop. Genestealers? Chop chop.

Ran into an issue with tyranid warriors though. T5 and stratagem reduced damage into 1...

Valorous heart at that...

An analogy might be say, cultists in a chaos marine army or a hypothetical chapter serfs unit for marines filling the same role (though probably a bit better equipped than some ragged cultists).

Are they part of the organisation in question? No. Are they dedicated support staff that can pretty much always be expected to be present in some capacity? Absolutely.

A priest doesn’t break the theme of a Sisters of Battle army in the slightest (unless you count “all female” as part of the army theme, in which case as mentioned no lore prevents a female priest conversion), hence why even in an edition where you’re starting to get bonuses for taking no allies, they don’t count as doing so, and have buffs that directly effect the sisters they work with.

I'm sure most others have noticed this, but I'd like to point out that the whole reason the GW site keeps pointing customers to Veridyan is because she's your solution if you are desperately in need of a Canoness right now to lead your SOB army. Like, the clue's in the name: "Canoness Veridyan".

On a related note, I'm still baffled by players/collectors who treat the codex rules for 40k as some kind of sacred text, outside of an official competitive tournament setting. I absolutely plan to kitbash Junith into an entirely different character who will lead my own custom SOB Order and if any friends, family or local GW Store players/staff tell me I can't do that, my answer will be that they can politely go f**k themselves. I've been playing this game since the late 1980s and remember that the entire point of the hobby (not to mention the reason why GW promoted open and narrative play) is to have fun. If my friend and I want to find out who would win a battle between my five different versions of Saint Celestine and his Ork-Genestealer Cult army, then that's what we're going to do. There is no GW police force that knocks down people's front doors to arrest them for playing 'wrong'.

Sorry if I've missed it in the thread, but have we seen the pricing for next week's preorders yet?

on the subject of priests I've been looking around and anvil industires makes a pretty decent looking female priest

https://anvilindustry.co.uk/the-priest

so if someone wants to take a missionary but wants to keep the army all women for thematic reasons, that seems a good solution

Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Going to be an expensive release for me.

I am going to model those exorcists without the cherubs if I can. Those things will definitely break as soon as you play with the unit.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Yeah I thought they'd be one to a box and priced through the roof like these guys.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Yeah I thought they'd be one to a box and priced through the roof like these guys.

could be GW actually heard criticism over that?

 Eldarsif wrote:
Going to be an expensive release for me.

Yeah, it's kind of at a bad time for me. My contract was cut short cause we finished things too quickly (go figure) so now I'm between contracts. I wish I could justify getting my entire army right now-- would spend well over a grand on it. Alas, the story of being poor.

I will eventually want a full 2000 point army, but I'm not gonna buy it all at once. First of, I can't afford that, and secondly, they get painted faster if I limit myself from buying more of them until the previous ones are painted. And until there are enough of them for an independent army, they shall ally with my other Imperials.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Works out pretty well if you have the one from the starter set to complete a trio.

 Casbyness wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Works out pretty well if you have the one from the starter set to complete a trio.

sadly pnny engines are pretty bleh compared to the mortifacers

Got 12 battle sister kits and 4 retributor kits in addition to a triumph and dice set. Next is Junith, 3 exorcists, 5-6 mortifier boxes depending on price, a hosptialler, and a unit of arcos.

Was hoping it would be Seraphim week 2 so I would have my primary list built out ASAP but w/e.

ERJAK wrote:
Got 12 battle sister kits and 4 retributor kits in addition to a triumph and dice set. Next is Junith, 3 exorcists, 5-6 mortifier boxes depending on price, a hosptialler, and a unit of arcos.

Was hoping it would be Seraphim week 2 so I would have my primary list built out ASAP but w/e.

12? yikes, that's gonna be a biiiig army. what's your list looking like?

BrianDavion wrote:

sadly pnny engines are pretty bleh compared to the mortifacers

There presumably are options for normal pilots and and the Anchorite for the Mortifiers. So if you build an Anchorite you have one Repentia pilot left over, and you can use that to convert the starter box Penitent Engine into a Mortifier. I didn't assemble mine yet, as I was hoping for something like this.

To be fair penitent engines are cheaper with zealot and a better feel no pain, despite their overall relative weakness. I’m thinking of doing three flamer and buzzsaw penitents using one box and the starter set one, then six bolter/flail mortifiers.

changemod wrote:
To be fair penitent engines are cheaper with zealot and a better feel no pain, despite their overall relative weakness. I’m thinking of doing three flamer and buzzsaw penitents using one box and the starter set one, then six bolter/flail mortifiers.

yeah I might do that


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On the subject of pentient engines, how do you guys figure they should be painted, with the order colours or without?

BrianDavion wrote:

changemod wrote:
To be fair penitent engines are cheaper with zealot and a better feel no pain, despite their overall relative weakness. I’m thinking of doing three flamer and buzzsaw penitents using one box and the starter set one, then six bolter/flail mortifiers.

yeah I might do that


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On the subject of pentient engines, how do you guys figure they should be painted, with the order colours or without?

I’d paint the mortifiers in a sorta stripped down version of order colours, penitents in more generic Ecclesiarchy colours.

I'm in favor of having an army match, and use the same color scheme.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Casbyness wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Works out pretty well if you have the one from the starter set to complete a trio.

sadly pnny engines are pretty bleh compared to the mortifacers

That's why I made a Mortifier from the starter set






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ERJAK wrote:
Got 12 battle sister kits and 4 retributor kits in addition to a triumph and dice set. Next is Junith, 3 exorcists, 5-6 mortifier boxes depending on price, a hosptialler, and a unit of arcos.

Was hoping it would be Seraphim week 2 so I would have my primary list built out ASAP but w/e.

That's a lot of battle sisters for just one poor Hospitaller to care for!

I hope she gets paid a decent wage for all that work. :O

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

It was revealed 2/pack at new year day

 Casbyness wrote:


That's why I made a Mortifier from the starter set



I like how you've used the RH model in there. I think mine is destined to become a marble statue but maybe it isn't too late to reconsider.

Any ideas what the Start Collecting Sisters box will look like?

Would have loved to get seraphim in wave 2, because I'll start with an angelic detachment led by Celestine, so I have a little allied sororitas force for the other imperial detachments and can then build up the troops in leisure. So I'm really hoping the flygirls will arrive soon and not in a few weeks.

 Casbyness wrote:
I'm sure most others have noticed this, but I'd like to point out that the whole reason the GW site keeps pointing customers to Veridyan is because she's your solution if you are desperately in need of a Canoness right now to lead your SOB army. Like, the clue's in the name: "Canoness Veridyan".

Just couple issues with that. A) finecast b) zero options c) web store item so either i pay postage that's like 50% price hike and 2 week delivery or no postage but delivery even longer(extreme case: necron cryptek i ordered last may arrived last friday...).

I have it in order. But if plastic one would have been announced here i would likelv have got that faster...still could


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BrianDavion wrote:

 Casbyness wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting, didn’t expect Penny Ennies to be a two pack.

Works out pretty well if you have the one from the starter set to complete a trio.

sadly pnny engines are pretty bleh compared to the mortifacers

Dunno. Cheaper and more punch in h2h plus more resilient. Good for waiting for enemy to engage you, 3 point something and get counter charged. Extra speed wasted in this role.