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The way they discuss it as a chase movie definitely makes me think it's worth seeing in a cinema if it's worth seeing at all tbh.

The CGI still doesn't look perfect, but I can live with it. What I'm really looking forward to is the fight inside the crashing plane because that looks to be almost all practical

Extended Red Band trailer -

I’m hyped for it.

Got Thursday off, so might go see it Wednesday night.

It’s getting positive reactions from peeps wot has seen.

https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/terminator-dark-fate/68096/terminator-dark-fate-first-reactions

Maybe a rental. Maybe.

Lots of mentions about it being the Force Awakens of the Terminator movies.

But TFA sucked.

Indeed Frazzled, TFA wasn't much to boast about. Least favourite of those movies, but somehow it does well when you can't decide which of the first two films(ANH, ESB) you want to watch for the evening. And at the very least, it was nice to see Carrie, Harrison, Peter and the other one...can't remember his name because he was only in it for only 30 seconds...

I wonder if Dark Fate will be that kind of movie? It already seems like a cross between the first two with not much else to add. It will be nice to see Linda, Arnie and...the other one...can't remember his name because he was a kid at the time and was cocky and irratating and annoying....

SamusDrake wrote:
Indeed Frazzled, TFA wasn't much to boast about. Least favourite of those movies, but somehow it does well when you can't decide which of the first two films(ANH, ESB) you want to watch for the evening. And at the very least, it was nice to see Carrie, Harrison, Peter and the other one...can't remember his name because he was only in it for only 30 seconds...

I wonder if Dark Fate will be that kind of movie? It already seems like a cross between the first two with not much else to add. It will be nice to see Linda, Arnie and...the other one...can't remember his name because he was a kid at the time and was cocky and irratating and annoying....

I thought that actor...died.

Frequently the first reviews that are allowed are typically glowing regardless of the quality of the film as rated by the actual movie going audience. That's unfortunately even more true of films stressing certain points of view that are in tune with that of many critics. I've seen too many good movies trashed and too many bad ones lauded by the supposed professionals not on the merits of the actual films itself so I'll wait for the amateur fan reviews before deciding if I want to spend my own money. YMMV. Nothing from the trailers has enticed me to change my mind but rather dissipated my existing enthusiasm (referencing the horrible early trailers specifically but not this much more meh one).

 warboss wrote:
Frequently the first reviews that are allowed are typically glowing regardless of the quality of the film as rated by the actual movie going audience. That's unfortunately even more true of films stressing certain points of view that are in tune with that of many critics. I've seen too many good movies trashed and too many bad ones lauded by the supposed professionals not on the merits of the actual films itself so I'll wait for the amateur fan reviews before deciding if I want to spend my own money. YMMV. Nothing from the trailers has enticed me to change my mind but rather dissipated my existing enthusiasm (referencing the horrible early trailers specifically but not this much more meh one).

Indeed. Further, they've beaten the topic to death. Even if a very good film...come on something new please.

 Frazzled wrote:


I thought that actor...died.

I seeee what you did there!

The terminator at 1:05 - 1:07 literally looks like unfinished workprint footage. The movie is releasing in less than 2 weeks.

I still strongly suspect this will be hot garbage.

The pretender shell aspect is a cool if not original idea, though.

Going to see it tomorrow evening, once I’m back from work.

Coincides with payday. I’d go Thursday, but new tattoo pencilled in for that day.

Also, so far no published reviews. That’ll it make it the first film in a while where I’ve had little more than comments before seeing it.




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Also, seems early reactions are from peeps expecting to see a screening of T2.

I dunno like, if I bothered to go to the effort of going to the cinema and paying to see a classic film and they said "SURPRISE! We're showing you this thing you have no interest in instead." I'd be pretty cheesed off.

 Yodhrin wrote:
I dunno like, if I bothered to go to the effort of going to the cinema and paying to see a classic film and they said "SURPRISE! We're showing you this thing you have no interest in instead." I'd be pretty cheesed off.

Most of the tickets were distributed through a Dark Fate twitter competition and it was marketed as a Dark Fate event with a 20 minute sneak preview, so it was a safe bet they were, tbf

Studios only risk that sneak screening stuff if they're reeaaally confident the audience will spread a good word for them, and seems that's the case here, feedback has been positive.

Will offer my own comments once I’ve seen it.

Just bear in mind I’ve found something to enjoy about all of the offerings so far.

What did you enjoy in Slavation? Was it Michael Ironsides? It was Michael Ironsides, wasn’t it?


It was probably Michael aironsides.

It was.

As revealed in my mini-bonus Mad Doc Defends, gagged on to the T3 one :p


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Also, I’ll need to give comments dodging spoilers!

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What did you enjoy in Slavation? Was it Michael Ironsides? It was Michael Ironsides, wasn’t it?


It was probably Michael aironsides.

I liked the hybrid guy
A-10 tankbusters rock (its silly they are still operating but cool)
Pilot gal

and hell yeah Michael Ironsides - watch Starship Troopers again last night

It's not a horrid film, its just not very good either. It suffers from a bad lead in between Bale's meltdown and the twist being in the trailers. It mostly suffers from in no way delivering the vision of the future promised in the first two movies. Setting wise its just kind of a bland, empty dystopia. It's remarkably bright while also being completely devoid of color. Instead of legions of Terminator frames marching through streets trampling on piles of skulls (its honestly very 40k), we get this big dumb CGI robot capturing people to kill later so the heroes have a chance to save them.

Hybrid guy, while entirely forgettable outside of that gimmick is fine. He really suffers from being a directors obvious little pet creation that the movie seems determined to set up as the real hero of the franchise for I guess sequel bait? This is the first time the series feels out of ideas of what to do with John so we might as well make him the villain; a bad idea that gets worse. Here we just get a super confused plot leading up to either John is actually a terminator and Skynet actually wins or John is actually Hybrid guy and the humans only win because a Terminator because of its inner humanity or something. Instead we get neither; just a really baffling heart transplant to replace a girder sized hole in John's chest because its the best they could do with the movie they'd filmed to that point.

There's still plenty in the film to enjoy though. It's really far from bad. Take out what little references the movie has to the brand and its dumb, fun action flick in line with Battle Los Angeles. It's really its ties to the franchise that make a mess of things.

Part of my issue is that the Skynet Hardware just doesn’t look right, at all.

The toys we saw in 1, 2 and even 3, the non-infiltration units, were lumbering, arguably clumsy, perhaps more accurately precise and measured.

Hunter Killers weren’t seen to be nippy. The tanks especially.

Where were my ZOMG LAZORS!? Why is there a scene from Transformers in my movie?

In fact, I think I’ve just put my finger on what irks me so much. It feels like a fan effort, cunningly stitched together from various other films.

And in particular? Why two wheeled speedy Terminators, with a USB plug?

You want fast? Trike at a minimum, quad to go off road. There’s no logical reason to make them two wheeled. USB, ShmUSB. Design a new port, one the humans don’t have access to - or just do it wirelessly with firewalls up the wazoo.

For some reason I thought it was out in November. Oh well, Thursday it is!

Not sure how easy it will be to watch Dark Fate with "just forget the last three movies" and strongly feel that the producers should have started from scratch with a "spiritual successor" instead.

Lets face it, Terminator was a product of the 80s/90s and the whole time travel thing began to lose credibility in T2( but it was a great encore so we didn't split hairs ), let alone the sequels that followed. The new assassin looks like a reworking of the T-800 / T-1000 double team in Genisys and Mackenzie's character is somewhat similar to Marcus Wright. We're also back in the "you merely postponed judgement day" territory...

Don't get me wrong - I hope its great for the sake of a £20 trip to the pictures on Thursday, and I'm happy to give any Terminator film a fair chance. But I doubt its going to storm the box office and there will be another "forget the last few sequels" pitch.

Just have to wait and see

I’m hoping it cleaves to the tone of the first two. I don’t mind the weak comedy in 3 and Genisys, but it does alter the tone too much.

SamusDrake wrote:
For some reason I thought it was out in November. Oh well, Thursday it is!

It's November in the US, earlier in Europe.

Ticket booked. Expect drivel tomorrow.

Currently Fresh on RT (just about)

Some of the early reviews are pretty good - not the sneak preview ones which are pretty much all going to be hand-picked true believers, but actual early reviews. One goes out of its way to point out the "CGI is a mixed bag", so I don't think it's going to get magically better in the next week or whatever is left.

That's not really a dealbreaker per se, but it's a reasonable expectation that a franchise with a historically heavy emphasis on special effects doesn't somehow look worse than an installment from 28 years ago.

I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong if this turns out to be good.

Given it's rather, uhhh.....varied pedigree, trepidation is understandable!

 Ouze wrote:
Some of the early reviews are pretty good - not the sneak preview ones which are pretty much all going to be hand-picked true believers, but actual early reviews. One goes out of its way to point out the "CGI is a mixed bag", so I don't think it's going to get magically better in the next week or whatever is left.

I've heard that, weirdly, the CGI is terrible but the practical is very good.

I was surprised by how much of it was practical when I saw this video, I have to admit I'd just assumed some of this was just done digitally.




I'm not really sure what to make of that? I mean, if you're doing it for real but people think it's CG, that's still probably a reflection on your style of some kind anyway?

 Ouze wrote:
Some of the early reviews are pretty good - not the sneak preview ones which are pretty much all going to be hand-picked true believers, but actual early reviews. One goes out of its way to point out the "CGI is a mixed bag", so I don't think it's going to get magically better in the next week or whatever is left.

That's not really a dealbreaker per se, but it's a reasonable expectation that a franchise with a historically heavy emphasis on special effects doesn't somehow look worse than an installment from 28 years ago.

I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong if this turns out to be good.

One of the earliest and most positive reviews was by a reviewer from Collider lauding how great the movie is on twitter... and that tweet was followed up with another reminding people about the special Collider run early screening followed by a special Q&A with the director. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

The one I saw was IO9, which I don't want to link here because it references a feminist angle tangentially and I don't want this thread locked before I even get to see the movie.