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2019/04/16 12:42:07
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Regular Dakkanaut
Philadelphia, PA
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Bring back the Old World under Specialist or core game, add ranked combat to AOS, relaunch War of the RIng
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2019/04/16 12:44:23
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Hallowed Canoness
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Anyone know how they plan on preventing people from "stuffing the ballot" and answering multiple time in order to get more chance to win the SoB?
I wrote this :
My “least favorite things about GW”:
- The lack of transparency, and the lack of sustainability of the various range and armies. No way to know how much support an army is going to get in the support. Some armies may be neglected for decades (Sisters of Battle), some might be completely abandoned (Kroot mercenaries, Dogs of War for WFB), some entire game system may disappear.
- The new 40k lore, which focus way too much on being a story instead of being a setting. I don't want to play subfactions (chapters, regiment, craftworld, …) and characters that were created and designed by GW, I want them to give me rules and inspiration to create my own. All 40k lore should be about fleshing up more different aspect of the setting, not an advancing story with a few characters that influence the whole setting! And I especially dislike the fleshing out and the return of primarchs (old legends are so more interesting as legends than as actual characters), and the return of technological advancement through primaris marine, which remove the quite unique and very interesting theme of technological decay from 40k.
- Please please please stop keeping the name in English in the middle of French texts, at least when the translation already exist in the real world! I don't mind if genestealers stay genestealers, but commissars should be commissaires!!!
- Profile creep, i.e. the profile of new weapons being way stronger than old weapons. For instance, the new Chaos rotor cannon being so much stronger than a heavy bolter, while the weapon is about the same size, even if balanced by point cost, make the heavy bolter seem like a WEAK weapon…
New functionality for Warhammer-Community:
RSS FEEDS!!!!
One thing to make GW stuff more enjoyable:
Take clear engagement and make those explicit about faction support. Be honest if a faction is likely to get dropped in next edition (say, Kroot mercenaries), have a clear (if approximate) schedule about when each faction is getting new models, …
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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2019/04/16 12:59:38
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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I typed everything up and sent it in, only to realise there was some sort of problem with a script being blocked (or some such) and it never actually did send. Then it updated the page and I had to do the whole thing over again, might try later but I'm a little bitter about it right now.
By the way, where is the FAQ? Stuck somewhere in Gorks Grin?
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2019/04/16 13:21:54
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Hallowed Canoness
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queen_annes_revenge wrote:my answers were no, no, no, I dont game, for most of the questions. but I suggested an individual parts service for kitbashing and converters. not gonna hold out hope but maybe. if they could offer that service in the days of mail order, I dont see why they couldnt do it now with the aid of the internet.
They used to have this and it was GLORIOUS!!!
I got some cool bitz for my Sisters of Battle this way. No way I could do it now!
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2019/04/16 13:52:50
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
Manchester, England
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:- The lack of transparency, and the lack of sustainability of the various range and armies. No way to know how much support an army is going to get in the support. Some armies may be neglected for decades (Sisters of Battle), some might be completely abandoned (Kroot mercenaries, Dogs of War for WFB), some entire game system may disappear.
Screaming into the wind with this one. Their level of support is down to level of interest, I'm assuming. If something isn't profitable then it will basically be dropped. I can't really fault them for that, can you?
And, yes, there's a counter-argument to that insofar as lack of support can lead to lack of interest, but a company will ALWAYS cut their losses if they know what's good for them.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:- The new 40k lore, which focus way too much on being a story instead of being a setting. I don't want to play subfactions (chapters, regiment, craftworld, …) and characters that were created and designed by GW, I want them to give me rules and inspiration to create my own. All 40k lore should be about fleshing up more different aspect of the setting, not an advancing story with a few characters that influence the whole setting! And I especially dislike the fleshing out and the return of primarchs (old legends are so more interesting as legends than as actual characters), and the return of technological advancement through primaris marine, which remove the quite unique and very interesting theme of technological decay from 40k.
I mean, sure, you're basically saying you don't like a thing that they're doing, which is fine, but they're going to continue doing it regardless, so good luck with that one.
On the subject of creating your own space within the lore, nothing prevents you from doing that. At all.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:One thing to make GW stuff more enjoyable:
Take clear engagement and make those explicit about faction support. Be honest if a faction is likely to get dropped in next edition (say, Kroot mercenaries), have a clear (if approximate) schedule about when each faction is getting new models, …
Disagree. While I'd love to know how and when my particular armies and factions will be receiving some kind of update, I don't think telegraphing these things months or years in advance would do any good at all. It's a whole load of unnecessary effort on GW's part for people to have even more specific things to complain and be overwhelmingly negative about. Explain to me how a Dark Eldar player's life is made any better by knowing that his army isn't due for any kind of new models at all for a 2+ year period?
I think things are fine as they are. Regardless, I see the Sisters of Battle updates as a rather significant "test" to see if updates on the design and manufacture process does actually lead to any kind of difference in terms of the overall feeling of the community and/or sales. So maybe you will get your wish if GW see some tangible benefits from the updates.
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2019/04/16 13:53:00
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Dakka Veteran
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I don't think I'm what they had in mind for this survey. In the Warhammer Events section, I answered:
"Describe your perfect Warhammer event - Where is it? What is being played? What style of game is running?"
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"1-4 friends and I, at one of our houses, playing the original Warhammer Quest. Everyone has nice snacks and good beer. We all laugh at each other's antics and maybe get somewhere in the game."
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2019/04/16 14:32:27
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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Psychopomp wrote:I don't think I'm what they had in mind for this survey. In the Warhammer Events section, I answered:
"Describe your perfect Warhammer event - Where is it? What is being played? What style of game is running?"
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"1-4 friends and I, at one of our houses, playing the original Warhammer Quest. Everyone has nice snacks and good beer. We all laugh at each other's antics and maybe get somewhere in the game."
Hopefully you draw Healing Hands.
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2019/04/16 14:57:59
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Dakka Veteran
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Was surprised they focused on the supplemental games and didn't specifically ask about 40k. Saw an Age of Sigmar section (but checked no).
I suggested they pursue action figures... I'd buy the hell out of a Revoltech or SH Figuarts line of 40k themed action figures. They could make 1 mold and release it in every color in the rainbow!
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2019/04/16 15:11:05
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Skillful Swordsman
Skeaune
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I asked them to put indexes in the end of the print books again.
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"I like my coffee like I like my nights. Dark, endless and impossible to sleep through." |
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2019/04/16 15:17:43
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Nvs wrote:Was surprised they focused on the supplemental games and didn't specifically ask about 40k.
There was a 40K section if you said "yes I play 40K".
The weird part was very early on in the survey they give you a list of what games you play. Necromunda was not on that list.
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2019/04/16 15:29:45
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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One of the things I asked for was Designer's Commentary more akin to what Blizzard does for Overwatch. When GW releases a codex/tome that looks, plays, and - for all intents and purposes - feels broken one has to wonder why they made certain choices. If they are trying to shake a certain meta or promote certain playstyles these commentaries could be used to convey that.
I also would like to know what they are planning to do with lines that don't feel supported like the entire Aelf category in the Age of Sigmar tab.
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2019/04/16 15:32:36
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Eldarsif wrote:One of the things I asked for was Designer's Commentary more akin to what Blizzard does for Overwatch. When GW releases a codex/tome that looks, plays, and - for all intents and purposes - feels broken one has to wonder why they made certain choices. If they are trying to shake a certain meta or promote certain playstyles these commentaries could be used to convey that. They've done these in the past and prepare for disappointment: they don't address what you're asking for because every single Designer's Commentary they've done shows that they think of the game in an entirely different way than the internet does. They really don't care a jot about "metas" or promoting certain playstyles over others.
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2019/04/16 15:33:15
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Eldarsif wrote:One of the things I asked for was Designer's Commentary more akin to what Blizzard does for Overwatch. When GW releases a codex/tome that looks, plays, and - for all intents and purposes - feels broken one has to wonder why they made certain choices. If they are trying to shake a certain meta or promote certain playstyles these commentaries could be used to convey that.
I'd dig that. Back when I played LOL I appreciated reading the patch commentaries and getting a feel for what the intent was. I guess I mostly asked for increased internal balance (specifically providing actual choices among army traits, relics, units and not just Obviously Good Things that override all others) and relentlessly added in BFG anywhere they asked me what I played or wanted
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2019/04/16 15:34:28
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Emboldened Warlock
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I wrote we want less monopose models, more compatibility across ranges, more options for characters than what comes with the model.
And plastic Aspect Warriors of course
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2019/04/16 15:42:32
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Platuan4th wrote: Eldarsif wrote:One of the things I asked for was Designer's Commentary more akin to what Blizzard does for Overwatch. When GW releases a codex/tome that looks, plays, and - for all intents and purposes - feels broken one has to wonder why they made certain choices. If they are trying to shake a certain meta or promote certain playstyles these commentaries could be used to convey that.
They've done these in the past and prepare for disappointment: they don't address what you're asking for because every single Designer's Commentary they've done shows that they think of the game in an entirely different way than the internet does. They really don't care a jot about "metas" or promoting certain playstyles over others.
Hasn't that applied mostly to 40k though? The AoS crowd is a bit more tourney centered with tomes that play much differently from 40k indicating that the design direction and approach is much different.
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2019/04/16 16:09:10
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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[DCM]
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zedmeister wrote:Done. Asked for Imperial Armour to return, more Made to Order, more Squats and a return of Epic.
I asked for that one too!
But yeah, I should have asked for Squats and plastic Aspect Warriors too.
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2019/04/16 16:12:59
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I mentioned plastic aspect warriors, tomb kings, Battlefleet gothic, black library MMPBs and prices. When they asked what function they could add to their website, I said "coupons".
Basically, give me the minis I'd be willing to pay crazy prices for or make the rest cheaper until they're attractive.
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2019/04/16 16:22:13
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Hell, if I win that sisters of battle army (Ha!), I’m putting it up for trade. No interest there.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2019/04/16 17:23:28
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I'm a sad person. I asked for more variety in plastic Imperial Guard. As someone who started in early 2nd Ed, I was spoilt when it came to make up of my first ever Guard army.
Now I'm spoilt for choice by other companies resin regiments.
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2019/04/16 17:32:44
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Not feeling great about where Middle Earth fits into their plans by it's almost complete absense from the survey. Such a brilliant ruleset too.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2019/04/16 18:54:08
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Like quite a few others, I used every opportunity I could to gently ask for Epic. ;-)
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11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
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2019/04/16 19:03:35
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Basically asked for more cavalry options for the guard, like I did last year.
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2019/04/16 19:36:56
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Eldarain wrote:Not feeling great about where Middle Earth fits into their plans by it's almost complete absense from the survey. Such a brilliant ruleset too.
Yeah. Underworlds got a section, but LotR did not.
Not cool, GW. Not cool.
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2019/04/16 19:41:37
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Dakka Veteran
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I mentioned that the seemingly fast fall-off of interest in Blood Bowl, Necromunda, and Kill Team may have something to do with their releases seeming more like some kind of boiler room sales scheme than just being exciting products I want to buy. Doubt they pay much attention to comments, but perhaps they can figure out on their own that making Specialist Games an obstacle course of tiny rulebooks with an anticipated release schedule that will take me into and then out of middle age before the entire game is released might actually cause them to make less money.
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2019/04/16 19:51:56
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Eldarain wrote:Not feeling great about where Middle Earth fits into their plans by it's almost complete absense from the survey. Such a brilliant ruleset too. His Master's Voice wrote: Eldarain wrote:Not feeling great about where Middle Earth fits into their plans by it's almost complete absense from the survey. Such a brilliant ruleset too. Yeah. Underworlds got a section, but LotR did not. Not cool, GW. Not cool.
They seemed to very specifically leave out Forge World content that wasn't, "What do you play?" Warhammer Underworlds had it's own section for instance but not Middle-Earth, Necromunda, Horus Heresy, etc. To my knowledge Underworlds is done by the same people as Kill-Team, which is separate to Specialist Games/Forge World.
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2019/04/16 19:52:18
Subject: Re:GW Big Community Survey
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Yeah the price and frequency of these rulebooks is a bit of a cheek.
The compiled Necromunda rulebook really took this piss in that regard. Same with the Kill Team expansion prices.
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2019/04/16 20:42:25
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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They didn’t ask questions about Blood Bowl either beyond ‘do you play it’
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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2019/04/16 21:30:10
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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I asked them to ease on the 'no model no rule thing' and give the poor Primaris characters some weapon options.
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2019/04/16 21:57:00
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Crazyterran wrote:They didn’t ask questions about Blood Bowl either beyond ‘do you play it’
At least Blood Bowl was on that list. Necro didn't make the cut.
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2019/04/16 23:33:08
Subject: GW Big Community Survey
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
Sesto San Giovanni, Italy
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I'll admit that I have had a smile when they asked "why don't you participate in official GW tournament"....
Because all of my centerpieces are from other companies
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I can't condone a place where abusers and abused are threated the same: it's destined to doom, so there is no reason to participate in it. |
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