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 zedmeister wrote:
Remora drone!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/18/introducing-the-tau-aircraft-so-advanced-it-flies-itself/



Forgeworld Resin

Great! Just had a game against a friend who plays Tau, and we wondered when the Remoras might drop.

Now do the Manta (we've already got a Mega-Bommer, after all).

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Seems like Aeronautica is basically a Forgeworld-only game by this point

All the specialist games are Forgeworld. Aeronautica - Adepticus Titanicus and Necromunda are all FW games. They just use plastic for core/common parts and then resin to expand forces.

 Overread wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Seems like Aeronautica is basically a Forgeworld-only game by this point

All the specialist games are Forgeworld. Aeronautica - Adepticus Titanicus and Necromunda are all FW games. They just use plastic for core/common parts and then resin to expand forces.

TBH, that's not exactly true as for now. Orks only have the mega-bomber as resin, T'au have the drones and the ground assets, Imperium has the Vultures, the Argus and the ground assets. Oh, and the Marauder Colossus kit, which mainly use the plastic marauder as base.

They're not exactly needed to expand forces, plastic kits are way more than enough for that. The ground assets could be used to expand your army, I guess, but they're more specific to some scenarios to be honest. The mega bomber thing is really not necessary, the argus are a gimmick for special scenarios and only the Vultures are a good aircraft to consider.

A huge majority of your aircrafts will be in plastic in the current AI meta. The resin ones are mainly collector stuff.


I'm more concerned about the future factions for AI...not sure if the game is popular enough to justify full plastic kits as we were spoiled with the two first campaigns. We'll see.

I was kinda hoping for the Remora Drones to be deployed in 'swarms'. So instead of 1 per base, perhaps have 3 per base. But then again, it would have meant that GW had to invest in adding a bit for the kit's flight stand.

That's be pretty pointless and counterintuitive in AI, unless being in a squadron meant they get to keep their full fire power even when they lose structure points.

Also Remora drone is huge, it's much bigger than the grot bomb and the infantry size drone that the ground force used.

 Overread wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Seems like Aeronautica is basically a Forgeworld-only game by this point

All the specialist games are Forgeworld. Aeronautica - Adepticus Titanicus and Necromunda are all FW games. They just use plastic for core/common parts and then resin to expand forces.

I recall it being said that specialist games was an offshoot of FW, but I think for all intents and purposes, they're basically GW. You can buy the rules and most of the models in regular GW stores and you go to the GW online store to find the bulk of the range. Maybe GW's human resources team consider the specialist games employees as FW, but as far as your average gamer is concerned, it's just regular GW.


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 Malika2 wrote:
I was kinda hoping for the Remora Drones to be deployed in 'swarms'. So instead of 1 per base, perhaps have 3 per base. But then again, it would have meant that GW had to invest in adding a bit for the kit's flight stand.

They were single models in the previous edition of the game, they're pretty large models in regular 40k.

I recall it being said that specialist games was an offshoot of FW, but I think for all intents and purposes, they're basically GW. You can buy the rules and most of the models in regular GW stores and you go to the GW online store to find the bulk of the range. Maybe GW's human resources team consider the specialist games employees as FW, but as far as your average gamer is concerned, it's just regular GW.

From what I understand Forgeworld and the Specialist Games studio are basically synonymous at this point, the personnel, writers, and sculptors are literally the same people, the only difference is whether the minis come out in resin or plastic.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/06/warhammer-fest-online-day-4-warhammer-underworlds-necromunda-and-aeronautica-imperialis/

New Expansion
Eldar


Space marine


And the plastic thunderhawk

Is it just me or do the Xiphons look a bit... pudgy?

 Malika2 wrote:
Is it just me or do the Xiphons look a bit... pudgy?

Yah they look like they've been into the pudding. The thunderhawks and the other ones look awesome though, as well as the eldar stuff.

First miniatures plastic, and Andy is hinting at maybe expansions...in FW resin.

Interview was very short this time, and on two topics. On the other hand, there's not much to say about AI honestly.

I don't get what you mean with them being "pudgy".

Fantastic stuff. Definitely the best day for reveals. Looks like Aeronautica is hoovering up my hobby cash

The Eldar fighters might be the first thing I buy from GW in years.

Sarouan wrote:
First miniatures plastic, and Andy is hinting at maybe expansions...in FW resin.

Interview was very short this time, and on two topics. On the other hand, there's not much to say about AI honestly.

I don't get what you mean with them being "pudgy".

"pudgy" means they look like they've gained some weight.

He's not wrong, they look shorter and wider than their 40k scaled counterparts.

I'm very happy they're sticking to FW designs for AI and not the horribly proportioned GW aircraft.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The Eldar fighters might be the first thing I buy from GW in years.

Hells yeah, I've gonna grab some of that Eldar.

Space Marines, meh, will grab a Thunderhawk but probably leave the rest. I always preferred the idea that Space Marines didn't maintain a full air force and only had landing craft.

Might even paint up the Eldar the same as my old ones...

I'm not going to lie, I liked the Thunderhawk reveal...

Yep, the Eldar have me sold, didn't do anything silly and reused the classic designs. I now want to find a full sized Nightwing or Phoenix bomber for my own army.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
First miniatures plastic, and Andy is hinting at maybe expansions...in FW resin.

Interview was very short this time, and on two topics. On the other hand, there's not much to say about AI honestly.

I don't get what you mean with them being "pudgy".

"pudgy" means they look like they've gained some weight.

He's not wrong, they look shorter and wider than their 40k scaled counterparts.

The detail is proportionatley larger due to the smaller scale, and the bright green edge highlighting is not doing it or the storm eagle any favors. The thunderhawk is much better painted.

I wonder if the storm eagle is designed like the tigershark and marauder so that they can swap out a sprue and make fire raptors instead.

Def going to get some of this to pretty up Titanicus battles.

Andy also let slip the term "Super Mega Bomma" for Orks. He was berating himself for letting that slip out.

So we may yet see more for Orks.

Not sure what else to expect from the Eldar range, but I assume that the Crimson and Hemlock ought to appear at some point?

Don't suppose Falcons, Wave Serpents and Swooping Hawks are a thing in Aeronautica?

SamusDrake wrote:
Not sure what else to expect from the Eldar range, but I assume that the Crimson and Hemlock ought to appear at some point?

Don't suppose Falcons, Wave Serpents and Swooping Hawks are a thing in Aeronautica?

The valkyrie and vendetta are in, so I don't see why we wouldn't see Crimson and Hemlock. Will likely also see Stormraven too.

drbored wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Not sure what else to expect from the Eldar range, but I assume that the Crimson and Hemlock ought to appear at some point?

Don't suppose Falcons, Wave Serpents and Swooping Hawks are a thing in Aeronautica?

The valkyrie and vendetta are in, so I don't see why we wouldn't see Crimson and Hemlock. Will likely also see Stormraven too.

Uh, so far there have been literally zero non-FW designs.

SamusDrake wrote:
Not sure what else to expect from the Eldar range, but I assume that the Crimson and Hemlock ought to appear at some point?

Don't suppose Falcons, Wave Serpents and Swooping Hawks are a thing in Aeronautica?

Vampire Hunter and Vampire Raider. Outside chance of maybe seeing the Lynx as that was capable of flight. And a Firestorm ground defence of some sort

drbored wrote:
Andy also let slip the term "Super Mega Bomma" for Orks. He was berating himself for letting that slip out.

So we may yet see more for Orks.

The Mega Bommer is already pretty absurd and doesn't really function well in the game.

I do hope they start revisiting the rules soon.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:

drbored wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Not sure what else to expect from the Eldar range, but I assume that the Crimson and Hemlock ought to appear at some point?

Don't suppose Falcons, Wave Serpents and Swooping Hawks are a thing in Aeronautica?

The valkyrie and vendetta are in, so I don't see why we wouldn't see Crimson and Hemlock. Will likely also see Stormraven too.

Uh, so far there have been literally zero non-FW designs.

Yeah, and it makes me happy they've stuck to the FW designs as the GW designs for the most part feel much more like toys than something that could be an aircraft.

rule change is unlikely.

Ork is probably the easiest faction for expansion, mostly just cosmetic stuff, give the dakkajets and fighta bommer more customized look.

They did use GW dakkajet design instead of the old one.

Chopstick wrote:
rule change is unlikely.

Yeah, I know, it's just really not a great game at this point. I wanted to like it, but got bored after a few games

I'm hoping the Eldar spice things up a bit, it sounds like they're introducing some rules to make manoeuvrability count for something, compared to the current rules where the most manoeuvrable has almost no advantage over the least manoeuvrable outside of a couple of missions.

Some changes I'd love to see are revising the manoeuvre table to have a bigger separation between low and high manoeuvrability aircraft, and having "to hit" modifiers that are reflective of how easy or hard it would be to bring guns to bear against a target. Also without changing the core rules, the ground attack rules could be expanded to make bombers more useful.

Ork is probably the easiest faction for expansion, mostly just cosmetic stuff, give the dakkajets and fighta bommer more customized look.

AI I think inherently isn't a great game for long term expansion, it'd probably be more beneficial to introduce more races once the basic roles are filled in the existing forces. Orks could still use a transport, I imagine we'll be getting some Vampires with the Eldar, hopefully not resin.

ace maneuver change should be easy enough. remove the dumb "choose your facing" of the maneuver.

That would make maneuvering more of a "split second" decision and I really like it. We might institute that for our local games anyway.

The main thing I don’t like is the amount of unlimited ammo weapons; it means there’s no reason not to take a shot even when it’s very speculative, bordering on impossible. It would be a much tenser, more tactical game if you had to wait until you were in a killer position to get off one of your few shots.

Yep, the manuever rules do let the game down IMO, with the original IA (and X-Wing), picking the right move was about the most important part of the game, as beyond that you got very little choice of how to move.

With the new IA rules there seems to be so much choice as to how you actually move with each manuever, that they almost might as well not exist as you seem pretty much free to end up placing the plane wherever you want facing whatever direction you want, so there's not much left to the game after that.

I know when I first read the movement rules I went back and read through them multiple times as I was sure I must have been misreading them.

Nice models, the Thunderhawk looks a little small, but I'm only really familiar with the Transporter version, so maybe that is bigger than the gunship (it's basically as long as a Warlord Titan is tall (not counting the carapace weapons)) so about 5" in AI scale.