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apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

GW actually won't re-do Cadians if they're smart. They've bought fully into the "re-do it completely and it'll sell" process by now. They won't risk people "not" buying stuff because it's just a rehash of an older model (particularly an existing plastic kit).

GW is all aboard the "buy a new army instead" train, so I have strong faith that new Guard models would be non-Cadian (or at the very least two lines - one being non-Cadian).

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

"...the only Regiment GW produces anymore." if we ignore the existence of the Catachans, anyway...

Given their gak models...I think it's best we do ignore Catachans for our health.

so given GW's tendancy to borrow regimental types from history, I'm gonna call it here, the next guard regiment'll be a Highlander regiment complete with kilt

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The spoiler isn't technically correct but is very, very close.

Spoiler:

They were wiped out to a man on one of the many attack moons the Orks used.

I hope it's true for obvious reasons but I'm not going to hold my breath, we've had rumours of Ghazzy before.

True, but you could say they have major unfinished business with Armageddon.

Agreed on Ghaz rumors. He is the Plastic Thunderhawk of the Orks.

I might be wrong on the spoiler now I think on it. It may have been a planet who's gravity was warped due to the arrival of the attack moon. Its been a while since I read the Beast Arises.

Lol Ghazzy is absolutely our plastic Thunderhawk - brilliant.

 bullyboy wrote:
I'm not sure about the connection to psychic awakening. I just watched the video and have my own interpretation...

The first 4 sentences...

"War calls" - who like going to war more than any other? Orks!
"Faith is tested" - BTs love their faith!
"The beast roars". Sure, this is Ghazkull, don't doubt that. It could also be 'Marbas' (who?).
"Ancient darkness rises" - could be any bad really, daemons or Nids jump out to me. Orks are an 'ancient' threat mind.

Fixed that for you bud

I think the psychic awakening is suitably vague so that it could relate to many factions. I've never heard of Marbas, that seems unlikely to me however.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just on a slight tangent - Is the Vigilus stuff over? I always thought it would be three books, but maybe I misinterpreted that.

Yea Vigilus is done. Onto new warzones now.

That said I don't think the next warzone'll be Armageddon, I've a hunch it'll be something entirely new

Yeah new I’d say.
Didn’t they say that all factions are in the new campaign, in the WarCom reveal for stuff?

A few other points from before;

New Guard plastics, maybe at some point. Customisable Kan?
I’d say highly unposable due to strange shaped parts that go together one way, that’s the thing these days
If they did more, bear in mind everyone saying it can’t be Cadians, that is the most common pattern of armour - they wouldn’t necessarily actually be ’Cadians’
But I agree it would be a great time to run at least a second Guard type alongside (Greatcoats please), but I don’t think they get rid of the one type as it’s the best generic armour.
If it was “insert guard regiment” that was the only kit then it’d be overkill model wise for them, and would that fit the fluff?

Definitely won’t be a DA vs Fallen box. We already had Dark Vengeance, and to make another box so similar - DA and a Chaos Marine faction..

 bullyboy wrote:
"War calls" First thing I think of here is Khorne.

"War calls" is a Khaine/Eldar thing. It's the final phrase of the ritual chant to awaken an Avatar.

 Duskweaver wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
"War calls" First thing I think of here is Khorne.

"War calls" is a Khaine/Eldar thing. It's the final phrase of the ritual chant to awaken an Avatar.

Well, now that leads me to believe the Eldar rumors from before. Perhaps we will get Aspects of Ynnead like we have Aspects of Khaine?

Or maybe we will be getting a new Avatar of Khaine? GW had been remaking all the Greater Daemons. An Avatar of Khaine would be a nice next step.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:


Or maybe we will be getting a new Avatar of Khaine? GW had been remaking all the Greater Daemons. An Avatar of Khaine would be a nice next step.

And my god does it need the update. I know there's a FW model but it's not the same.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:


Or maybe we will be getting a new Avatar of Khaine? GW had been remaking all the Greater Daemons. An Avatar of Khaine would be a nice next step.

And my god does it need the update. I know there's a FW model but it's not the same.

Isn't there a way that a gathering of the Phoenix Lords can summon an Avatar of Khaine? Like "psychic awakening" type summon?

I am leaning toward Psychic Awakening being new Eldar. New Avatar of Khaine. New Phoenix Lords. New Aspect Warriors.

Sisters of Battle featured in Armageddon conflicts a lot so I'd rate this quite likely - used like Vigilus to release a bunch from f stuff themed to the conflict.

 Dysartes wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

"...the only Regiment GW produces anymore." if we ignore the existence of the Catachans, anyway...

On the subject of the plastic Catachans, it is actually now 20 years since the plastic infantry squad was released

robbienw wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

"...the only Regiment GW produces anymore." if we ignore the existence of the Catachans, anyway...

On the subject of the plastic Catachans, it is actually now 20 years since the plastic infantry squad was released

bah, ther youngins, can't even drink yet in the US

I'd be very happy with Black Templars seeing some love for a change.

I still think the "current" Ghaz model is excellent.
Upgrade him by 30% size or so and leave it at that.
I hope they dont go OTT with him.

 Ratius wrote:
I still think the "current" Ghaz model is excellent.
Upgrade him by 30% size or so and leave it at that.
I hope they dont go OTT with him.

Cue crushed Primaris Lieutenant in his power klaw and the same stance they used for Abby and Guilly...

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
I still think the "current" Ghaz model is excellent.
Upgrade him by 30% size or so and leave it at that.
I hope they dont go OTT with him.

Cue crushed Primaris Lieutenant in his power klaw and the same stance they used for Abby and Guilly...

Ya know... I'd be pretty cool with that idea if they almost designed the new 40k "big leader" minis to work in diarahma with each other.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:


Or maybe we will be getting a new Avatar of Khaine? GW had been remaking all the Greater Daemons. An Avatar of Khaine would be a nice next step.

And my god does it need the update. I know there's a FW model but it's not the same.

Isn't there a way that a gathering of the Phoenix Lords can summon an Avatar of Khaine? Like "psychic awakening" type summon?

I am leaning toward Psychic Awakening being new Eldar. New Avatar of Khaine. New Phoenix Lords. New Aspect Warriors.

Isn't The Psychic Awakening thing basically endless spells for 40k? Eldar are already psychically awakened so I don't think that's the connection. I'd love a new Avatar model -the War Calls thing hints at that [if they did say that the next war zone has releases for al/most factions]. Might extend to Phoenix Lords and/or Aspects -there are those rumour engines with shattered Eldar ruins .. I had thought they might be exodites but I won't hold my breath.

Sounds good for Orks, otherwise the Imperium/chaos onslaught continues..

It won';t be Eldar, this is some sort of event that will impact EVERY faction. and the eldar getting some treats isn't that. (now the eldar might get some goodies as a part of this event but..)

I still belvie it'll be 40k endless spells. I'll just put this link here https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Great_Awakening

Yeah, endless spells is a popular guess given the name, but realistically we don't have a clue what Psychic Awakening is going to be. And if GW follows the same advertising strategy as with Forbidden Power, we'll know even less after the second teaser.

Templars versus Orks doesn't sound bad. I just hope there's no truth to the rumor of two months between Marine supplements. That's just dragging the Marine release out for no reason. Sure, sure, give wallets a break and all that, but who's going to realistically buy all supplements? Most people likely only need one.

it's why I linked what I did. we know that in the past there's been waves where suddenly latent pyskers have manifested etc. and they've been called awakenings. I suspect thus that we're going to see the fluff refering to psykers popping up in greater numbers more powerful then before.

BrianDavion wrote:
It won';t be Eldar, this is some sort of event that will impact EVERY faction. and the eldar getting some treats isn't that. (now the eldar might get some goodies as a part of this event but..)

I still belvie it'll be 40k endless spells. I'll just put this link here https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Great_Awakening

Yeah it looks like it will be endless spells, maybe faction specific ones at best? I think when they revisit eldar it will be a bigger deal in itself.

I wonder if Ghazghkull will bring any new mates with him.. maybe larger Orks from the Octavius war?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:


Or maybe we will be getting a new Avatar of Khaine? GW had been remaking all the Greater Daemons. An Avatar of Khaine would be a nice next step.

And my god does it need the update. I know there's a FW model but it's not the same.

Suppose the psychic awakening follow the style of AoS endless spells, they could make a new Khaine avatar as an "endless spell"


About Armageddon: I know it dont really say anything, but there is not a single Steel Legion model shown in the AM codex, they pay more attention to some converted "Armageddon ork hunters" that dont even fit with available gear.

 Elbows wrote:
Given their gak models...I think it's best we do ignore Catachans for our health.

Just because they're not great sculpts - even if the basic infantry kit is nearly old enough to drink in the US - doesn't mean that we can ignore the fact that they are still on sale.

The Command Squad set looks fairly decent, even.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Given their gak models...I think it's best we do ignore Catachans for our health.

Just because they're not great sculpts - even if the basic infantry kit is nearly old enough to drink in the US - doesn't mean that we can ignore the fact that they are still on sale.

The Command Squad set looks fairly decent, even.

The Command and Heavy Weapon Squads both are fantastic, and Straken and Harker look great too. Marbo was a dud(conceptually and modelwise).


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 Fayric wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:


Or maybe we will be getting a new Avatar of Khaine? GW had been remaking all the Greater Daemons. An Avatar of Khaine would be a nice next step.

And my god does it need the update. I know there's a FW model but it's not the same.

Suppose the psychic awakening follow the style of AoS endless spells, they could make a new Khaine avatar as an "endless spell"

Nah, the Avatar wouldn't be an Endless Spell.

About Armageddon: I know it dont really say anything, but there is not a single Steel Legion model shown in the AM codex, they pay more attention to some converted "Armageddon ork hunters" that dont even fit with available gear.

The Ork Hunters have always been weird though. The fluff and the concept art has always been that 'feral' almost Ork look.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
I still think the "current" Ghaz model is excellent.
Upgrade him by 30% size or so and leave it at that.
I hope they dont go OTT with him.

Cue crushed Primaris Lieutenant in his power klaw and the same stance they used for Abby and Guilly...

Sounds perfect.

If there's a model they absolutely should go OTT with, Ghazzy is it.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

I don't think that really works as a justification. A regiment trained by Cadians wouldn't identify as Cadian any more than the Afghan Government forces of modern day or the Contras of the 80s identify as U.S. soldiers. GW is just being lazy and not producing a new Guard regiments (not sure if they don't sell well or what).