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2019/09/09 13:25:21
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
We're well into a solid hundred and many more years of Primaris crusading around the galaxy. Short of an Emperor's Champ with a Dante-lifespan, any Primaris Emperors Champion may well be as grizzled and crusade-scarred as any non-Primaris Emperor's Champ was in the 6th or 7th Ed. timeline.
Yep. And of course if that old veteran could have gotten a Primaris upgrade via Rubicon.
And the Awoken aren't just initiates that were frozen. Some of them are veterans of the Great Crusade and the Heresy.
There is also a possibility that some of them have even met the Primarch. Probably not Emps himself, but being that old definitely opens the possibility.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Given that the existing Marine heads (Beakies notwithstanding) fit with Primaris Marines, surely that means they work the other way around?
I ask because a few of those Iron Hands heads would look great on a few Iron Hand Deathwatch Marines.
As far as I'm aware, the heads and shoulder pads on Primaris/regular marines are completely interchangeable.
2019/09/09 16:00:38
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
H.B.M.C. wrote: Given that the existing Marine heads (Beakies notwithstanding) fit with Primaris Marines, surely that means they work the other way around?
I ask because a few of those Iron Hands heads would look great on a few Iron Hand Deathwatch Marines.
As far as I'm aware, the heads and shoulder pads on Primaris/regular marines are completely interchangeable.
Shoulder pads are, Terminator/Gravis excepted. Almost all space marine heads are interchangable but there are exceptions when it comes to collared models, like the Mk8 in the tactical squad, Sternguard, veteran updates, BT upgrades, Deathwatch Vets and Primaris. The majority of the Mk8 don't fit normal MK7 helmets well at all, and the Deathwatch can only fit their unique, flat face helmets or bare heads. MK8 and MK10 don't fit Beakie helmets whatsoever, the nosecone doesn't allow for it.
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2019/09/09 16:09:31
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
Black Templars vs Ork is WRONG it's gonna be SW vs Orks and Templars will be in the second Psychic Awakening book.
According to the guy on the French forum.
godardc wrote: Black Templars vs Ork is WRONG it's gonna be SW vs Orks and Templars will be in the second Psychic Awakening book.
According to the guy on the French forum.
I would actually be very very very cool with that.
2019/09/09 18:03:58
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
godardc wrote: Black Templars vs Ork is WRONG it's gonna be SW vs Orks and Templars will be in the second Psychic Awakening book.
According to the guy on the French forum.
I would actually be very very very cool with that.
hmm OK I guess it was ineveitable every book woud be Marines/Chaos marines vs someone......
I'd rather another Ork Character as well - bit of variety.
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2019/09/09 19:17:00
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
godardc wrote: Black Templars vs Ork is WRONG it's gonna be SW vs Orks and Templars will be in the second Psychic Awakening book.
According to the guy on the French forum.
Ooh interesting, did he have any news on what new units (if any) SW/Orks or Templars could expect?
The only thing that pushes me away from this is the fact that SW and Orks has been done before recently.
2019/09/09 19:30:10
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
Malika2 wrote: Are you guys as shocked as me to see GW posting pictures of non-Primaris marines?
No, but then again I've been paying attention.
I've noticed an approx 50/50ish split for Astartes & Primaris.
My Astartes are about as good as my primaris since the codex dropped. Cant wait till everyone who's getting a supplement gets one. My Salamanders are waiting with bated breath to see what's in store for the 18th.
2019/09/09 20:27:27
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
I feel like it'll be the same as what they did with Dwarfs in AOS
All the older dwarfs got discontinued. The warriors, thunderers, etc. But the newer, nicer models are still around. I won't be surprised to see the older, squatter marines to go, but the veterans are fairly new and still look great
2019/09/09 20:50:32
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
GaroRobe wrote: I feel like it'll be the same as what they did with Dwarfs in AOS
All the older dwarfs got discontinued. The warriors, thunderers, etc. But the newer, nicer models are still around. I won't be surprised to see the older, squatter marines to go, but the veterans are fairly new and still look great
keep in mind tactical assault and devestator squads are actually a fairly new kit these days.
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2019/09/09 20:53:21
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
Scouts and bikers are among the oldest plastic marine kits now. And there is still no plastic techmarine in any form, primaris or otherwise, besides this new named character.
2019/09/09 20:59:49
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
MajorWesJanson wrote: Scouts and bikers are among the oldest plastic marine kits now. And there is still no plastic techmarine in any form, primaris or otherwise, besides this new named character.
I kinda wish they made this new char a techmarine/iron father dual kit.
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2019/09/09 21:32:36
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
Malika2 wrote: Are you guys as shocked as me to see GW posting pictures of non-Primaris marines?
Nope, because unless you are part of the "oLd MaRiNeS aRe DeAd" brigade, you will actually see the fact that GW uses Old Marines just as much as Primaris in the new Codex and on their articles as well. On Vigilus, there were several Detachments that REQUIRED Old Marines.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
Yeah, it has been their thing for quite a while. The most recent Sternguard kit from like 2013 has them with white guns. It adds some really great contrast for them. I definitely approve.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
They've had them at least as far back as the 6th edition codex.
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2019/09/09 21:47:10
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
Yeah, it has been their thing for quite a while. The most recent Sternguard kit from like 2013 has them with white guns. It adds some really great contrast for them. I definitely approve.
I kinda don't like it. More contrast is great, but RG & BT already had the black-n-white thing covered. I think it would have been better if their guns casing were a bright silver instead. or Maybe just a hint of blue somewhere (as RG/BT also have hints of red, so that's out too)
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CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
They've had them at least as far back as the 6th edition codex.
Ah ok, so its a relatively recent thing. That would explain why I didn't remember them having white guns back in 4th ed. Its a good change. Makes them stand out from Raven Guard and provides a bit of contrast. I wonder how they did the blue tinge on them, because its not a stark white.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
Yeah, it has been their thing for quite a while. The most recent Sternguard kit from like 2013 has them with white guns. It adds some really great contrast for them. I definitely approve.
I kinda don't like it. More contrast is great, but RG & BT already had the black-n-white thing covered. I think it would have been better if their guns casing were a bright silver instead.
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That would go more with the Iron hands thing, yes.
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2019/09/09 21:50:22
Subject: 40k Rumours - Space Marines, Black Templars vs Orks box and Ghazghkull - UPDATED OP 6.9.19
CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
Yeah, it has been their thing for quite a while. The most recent Sternguard kit from like 2013 has them with white guns. It adds some really great contrast for them. I definitely approve.
I kinda don't like it. More contrast is great, but RG & BT already had the black-n-white thing covered. I think it would have been better if their guns casing were a bright silver instead.
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I would actually like it more if it was a complete Left-Field color like the red the Dark Angels use on theirs.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: You know, I did not know Iron Hands had white guns. It looks quite nice.
Yeah, it has been their thing for quite a while. The most recent Sternguard kit from like 2013 has them with white guns. It adds some really great contrast for them. I definitely approve.
I kinda don't like it. More contrast is great, but RG & BT already had the black-n-white thing covered. I think it would have been better if their guns casing were a bright silver instead.
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I would actually like it more if it was a complete Left-Field color like the red the Dark Angels use on theirs.
Agreed. I'd go with blue since Red seems well covered as an accent color on so many other chapters. But aside from UMs, blue doesn't show very often.
Like always, they are trying to show how many cool options are available in the kit. It just so happens that half of those options don't work well together. Like at all.