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Ok, but it would still be to heavily armed in my opinion. A heavy stubber and two autocannons is (in my view) pretty decent firepower. What was proposed here was really a pure transport that would qualify for beeing cheep enough to be sensible to use for 4-5 ppm infantry

Pyroalchi wrote:
Ok, but it would still be to heavily armed in my opinion. A heavy stubber and two autocannons is (in my view) pretty decent firepower. What was proposed here was really a pure transport that would qualify for beeing cheep enough to be sensible to use for 4-5 ppm infantry

well cut the two acs' that would be 52 pts.

And also the stubber and make it an add one that substracts -1 to the bs, which would make for a 50 pts transport.

I was just joking with the t55 turreted truck,
But in all seriousness an Goliath is not a bog standard construction truck, it is as armoured as a Taurox which is a military APC so it's actually a sturdy vehicle for something used by what polite society refers to as mine scum.

What Pyro was initially talking about is a soft skin truck. To at least motorise cheap troops so they don't have to march halfway across the board. With something like a 16-24 troop capacity. I mean they have hover cars, they should at least have motorised infantry.

Possibly this vehicle could be an up armoured soft skin. Therefore it's going to have light armour and be comparable to a scout sentinel or perhaps amoured sentinel. I do not own a codex so you can tell me what this is.

The sole purpose of this vehicle is to speed onto the field and drop a tonnage of expendable troops off before it's wreckage is used as cover.

(on another note if you were interested I'd use the same range of toughness for technicals + probable troop capacity depending on role and shatever guns you want strapped on (within reason for chassis weight capacity))



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What I'd be interested in is a lightly armoured utility vehicle, similar stats to a scout/scout sentinel , similar weapons choices (or storm bolter/heavy stubber/grenade machinegun for cheaper) which you could field in squadrons and be able to carry 6-8 25mm based figures each vehicle.

For cheap transport have a stubber and 8 person capacity.

That way you could fill the board with cheap rubbish vehicles (but with decent firepower) and use them to drop off troops. Would suit the whole, guard being rubbis but making up for it in numbers and also make for a lighter, faster guard element

I'm thinking this as being either dedicated mobility vehicles (like a Landrover Snatch) for guard or technicals for chaos/genestealer cult/less proffesional guard.

@ Oldmate: it has less Transport capacity, but it could be funny to use squads of these:
https://anvilindustry.co.uk/AFTERLIFE/Republic/Mk4-Instigator
in the configuration with two guys sitting in the back. Maybe maybe even something like a Unit of cheap transports consisting of 3-6 of those small jeeps (the model is really tiny), that can be boarded by #of Jeeps x 2-4 guardsmen hitching a ride.

But I guess Transport capacities below 10 are not really optimal with the current transport rules and the units in question (Infantry Squads, Veterans and Conscripts) having 10-30 models per unit.

Perhaps you could have a special rule requiring any soldiers being carried by a squadron of these vehicles, must act, when disembarked as a single squad

I definitely think 40K needs a vehicle like this, with the option to bolt a heavy stubber on top to make it a "technical."

Stormonu wrote:Honestly, you most likely don't see these sort of vehicles in 40K because everyone clambers out of them just out of firing range so the troops aren't a bunch of sitting ducks and the vehicles aren't shot to flaming wrecks the first time someone points an anti-anything gun in its direction.....

Agreed, no competent soldier willingly drives into range of even small-arms fire in an unarmed and unarmored vehicle, but technicals are definitely a thing for militia forces with little regard for their own lives (hello, Cultists!), and you can do a fluffy narrative-play scenario with, say, IG conscripts being ambushed as they're trucked to the front.

Stormonu wrote:I don't think "unaligned" would quite fit, as there would need to be some familiarity with the operation of the vehicle, and there may be (minimal) security features to keep just anyone from running off with it. Besides, I figure it would be rather difficult for a marine to find the gas pedal on a tyranid transport...

Now I can't help but think of the following (translated from the hideous insectile clicking):

"What do you mean, how do you start it? You just whip the soft spot there with one of your extensible tentacles.... What do you mean you haven't got any?.... No, that's not true, I've seen humans without your ridiculous lower-body coverages, at least half of you definitely have an extensible tentacle... Where? Between your hind limbs, that's where.... Ha ha ha, very funny, like any organism would use the same body part for both those functions.... Oh my Swarm, you're NOT kidding?..... Okay, humans are, like, super gross."

Unarmoured Trucks:I think the idea is to rush up the board and bail out before you reach small arms range distance, making use of it being a fast vehicle and as much LOS blocking terrain as you can.
Get soft packets filled with 24 guardsmen each halfway across the table in the first turn, to rush for objectives.

Trucks would be great for narrative play, you could also do convoy protection, where you'd likely want to block any form of direct fire upon these vehicles!

Personally I like the idea of having technicals(they are suitable to Chaos cultists/renegades/genestealer cult/imperial guard/tau auxiliaries/), which can also take passengers, the idea being you can fill the table with cheap transports, each loaded with like 5 passengers, then you attempt to flood the enemy position with firepower and troops.

A kind of motorised cavalry charge, on the cheap. - it would at least be hilarious

I always assumed some sort of trucks would be utilized, but they wouldnt have any in-game effect? As in, theyre parked somewhere about 200" away with camonets on top. Might be cool for special missions or narrative though.

Cultists could have something like that, would fit in with the fluff. Just take a page from the GSC playbook, wouldnt be out of place IMO.

Depends how desperate the situation is, if commander wants to rush up the field and lose truck loads of troops, well that objective better be worth it.

In the fluff they seem to use trojans supply vehicles(not the chimera chassis with the crane that is a trojan support vehicle), but effectively running a very large and armoured vehicle in place of a fleet of cheaper trucks is a bit backwards for behind the lines duty.

Its like employing a baneblade as a runnaround. It's counter productive and wastefully decadant.

Don't get me wrong, a armoured, tracked chassis would be great to ferry supplies to the front lines.