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Longtime Dakkanaut





I want the second part of nids, this one only covers from T to Z.
   
Made in au
Hissing Hybrid Metamorph






Lemondish wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
Seeing point drops everywhere, I’m curious about Orks and Necrons now


Me too, but the imgur album doesn't have them :(


Yeah :/ hopefully soon they’ll get leaked (please!)
   
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Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch




...anything at all for Thousand sons?...
almost scared to ask as I have the feeling that point drops will be for CSM and not reflect for TS
really hope I'm wrong on this
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





deTox91 wrote:
...anything at all for Thousand sons?...
almost scared to ask as I have the feeling that point drops will be for CSM and not reflect for TS
really hope I'm wrong on this

Considering regular csm dropped i assume that also cult marines should drop.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in gb
Esteemed Veteran Space Marine



Ottawa

deTox91 wrote:
...anything at all for Thousand sons?...
almost scared to ask as I have the feeling that point drops will be for CSM and not reflect for TS
really hope I'm wrong on this


Compiled by a fan from various sources and posted on B&C.

Rubrics are still 16, but the Inferno Gun is now 0 points
Tzaangors are now up 1
The TS Daemon Princes went up (185 I think off hand from what they saw)
Land raider down 20
Rhino down 5
Predator down 5
Sorcerers now 80
Cultist to 4
Scarab Occult 26 (don't know about their guns)
Ahriman No Change
Magnus No Change
According to another source the Engines all come down 10-15 points each
   
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





All daemon engines down?
Well finnally a reason to use them then.

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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in gb
Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch




Not Online!!! wrote:
All daemon engines down?
Well finnally a reason to use them then.


TREMBLE at the +6" psychic powers of my Daemon Engines /s
   
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine



Ottawa

Not Online!!! wrote:
All daemon engines down?
Well finnally a reason to use them then.


Keep in mind this is all based on other people who have seen the pages and should be approached with a bit of caution until the leaks prove otherwise. Just forwarding the information
   
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





Lemondish wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
All daemon engines down?
Well finnally a reason to use them then.


Keep in mind this is all based on other people who have seen the pages and should be approached with a bit of caution until the leaks prove otherwise. Just forwarding the information

Tbf that isn't so unlikely, considering daemonengines.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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[DCM]
Procrastinator extraordinaire





London, UK

Anything on Craftworlds? Other than the CHE.

   
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Deranged Necron Destroyer




topaxygouroun i wrote:
So, A rupture cannon Tyrannofex is 196 pts. It can shoot 6 shots if it stays still at BS 4+ (3 hits overall), plus 4 shots str 5 for the spine weapon.

A standard land raider is 200 pts. It can shoot 4 shots at BS 3+ (3 hits overall), and it can move + shoot with no penalty. It also has 6 shots str 5 for the heavy bolters. It also has more wounds, a better armor save AND a transport capacity. And it's not like a land raider is a competitive option or anything.

Why should we even bother at this point?


Unless I'm missing something, a "standard" Land Raider is 277pts after these changes... You still have to add the wargear costs for its guns.

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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Sunny Side Up wrote:
shabadoit wrote:
No talk of Legends. The assumption from most people (or at least me) was that CA would have a legends section with all the old points, but the Sisters repressor is still listed, so maybe this is the last update instead?

I seem to remember Legends being mentioned as an end of this year thing but I can't find that now.


No. They explicitly said in the new year (2020)

Spoiler:




AoS Legends will be updated in 2020. 40k will be done in the next week or so:

Da Red Gobbo will be joined by other Warhammer Legends this December, alongside the release of Chapter Approved 2019, where rules for other venerable denizens of the far future whose miniatures are no longer available will find their permanent home.
   
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UK

IanVanCheese wrote:
topaxygouroun i wrote:
So, A rupture cannon Tyrannofex is 196 pts. It can shoot 6 shots if it stays still at BS 4+ (3 hits overall), plus 4 shots str 5 for the spine weapon.

A standard land raider is 200 pts. It can shoot 4 shots at BS 3+ (3 hits overall), and it can move + shoot with no penalty. It also has 6 shots str 5 for the heavy bolters. It also has more wounds, a better armor save AND a transport capacity. And it's not like a land raider is a competitive option or anything.

Why should we even bother at this point?


Unless I'm missing something, a "standard" Land Raider is 277pts after these changes... You still have to add the wargear costs for its guns.


yep, still crap. A this point its less Land Raider and more Land Fill

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Lethal Lhamean




Birmingham

All these leaks and not a single mention of any Aeldari units, comne on people!
   
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Deranged Necron Destroyer




Yeah, show me the Necrons. Crush my dreams, get it over with.
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain




Vigo. Spain.

I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion





 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.


it been confirmed they're a unit not a strat? that is suprising.

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
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even if theres nothing, im waiting on IG, Custodes, and Ministorum info. hopefully there's tons of data to pick over!

Army: none currently. 
   
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot






Iowa

 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.

Well, they do have a unit. You just build it with an Intercessor box.

If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed. 
   
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine



Ottawa

 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.


Well they don't really seem to be anything but an Intercessor box with the Blood Angel upgrade sprue and painted black instead of red.
   
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo





Sunny Side Up wrote:
Thunderwolf Cavalry not getting a drop is rough. But Wulfen seem down 5 points and Murderfang is down 45(???) points? He was arguably one of the few kick-ass Space Wolf units already.


Isn't Cavalry being generally used in wolf lists? If yes be happy they didn't increase price


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shabadoit wrote:
No talk of Legends. The assumption from most people (or at least me) was that CA would have a legends section with all the old points, but the Sisters repressor is still listed, so maybe this is the last update instead?

I seem to remember Legends being mentioned as an end of this year thing but I can't find that now.


Isn't repressor fw model? Fw models aren't legends.

Also legends is online. Not ca.


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BrianDavion wrote:
 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.


it been confirmed they're a unit not a strat? that is suprising.


They have point cost in ca2019 at least

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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 
   
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna






Man I need to see some orks points drop or I'm going Supernova.
   
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UK

 Emicrania wrote:
Man I need to see some orks points drop or I'm going Supernova.


good luck, i'd be braced for increases if i were you

 
   
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo





Orks and necron front quiet. So just my main factions. Well no rush to see bad news

2024 painted/bought: 109/109 
   
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna






 Latro_ wrote:
 Emicrania wrote:
Man I need to see some orks points drop or I'm going Supernova.


good luck, i'd be braced for increases if i were you


You are making an old fart like me wetting his eyes....


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feth it looks like I ll finally need to paint those BA than......

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Been Around the Block




tneva82 wrote:


Isn't repressor fw model? Fw models aren't legends.

Also legends is online. Not ca.



It's all coming back to me now! The repressor is out of print, which is why I was thinking legends, rather than it being FW.

But in that cases there's still a chance things could be in CA this year (for the last time) and also be added to legends.

I didn't see if the Space Marine index only bike options were there, which may also be a clue.
   
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Lethal Lhamean




Birmingham

Lemondish wrote:
 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.


Well they don't really seem to be anything but an Intercessor box with the Blood Angel upgrade sprue and painted black instead of red.

And yet Kabalite Trueborn are just Kabalites with extra special weapons, but have been removed. Only Marines seem to get the exceptions (somethign that has been pointed out several times by a lot of people over the last couple of years).
   
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I REALLY hope the Repressor doesn't go into legends, personally, even if it's probably one of the things most likely to go into it...

Army: none currently. 
   
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Been Around the Block




 Imateria wrote:
Lemondish wrote:
 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.


Well they don't really seem to be anything but an Intercessor box with the Blood Angel upgrade sprue and painted black instead of red.

And yet Kabalite Trueborn are just Kabalites with extra special weapons, but have been removed. Only Marines seem to get the exceptions (somethign that has been pointed out several times by a lot of people over the last couple of years).


Thank you for posting that imateria. I was about to lose it, I wanted to throttle these people saying how it's so easy to convert the intercessor death company unit.

Like how many units have we lost that were so easy to kitbash. And why is it that space marines and guard get this exception.
   
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Mighty Vampire Count






UK

 Imateria wrote:
Lemondish wrote:
 Galas wrote:
I'm really surprissed Death Company intercessors are a unit and not an stratagem update.

Other case of the absolutely random and inconsistent No-Models But-Sometimes-Rules policy.


Well they don't really seem to be anything but an Intercessor box with the Blood Angel upgrade sprue and painted black instead of red.

And yet Kabalite Trueborn are just Kabalites with extra special weapons, but have been removed. Only Marines seem to get the exceptions (somethign that has been pointed out several times by a lot of people over the last couple of years).


Because Marines constantly get models so its less likely to consoldate any of the vastly bloated tome of loads of ever so slightly different unit variations - in fact the opposite - another reason why the exclusive unrelenting Marine model support destroys balance, the game and other factions.

I AM A MARINE PLAYER

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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