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Can’t see what these Marine players are complaining about - Stompa is only 800pts of no-invun-save, low-accuracy, declining-efficiency, terrain-blocked Green Fury! Only the Mek Workshop is more OP - my group have banned its use.

Git Gud, Whinerz!

They made it even cheaper?! Must be nice, being the posterboyz.

I guess people just don't know the obvious combo: Put the stompa in the mek workshop, skip a turn of shooting and then have a guaranteed* 36 shots out of the supa gatler! With a 6+ chance (4+ with stratagem) to get +1 damage, even against non-vehicles! Imperial Fists hate this trick.

*actually just 5 in 6 chance

I tricked my friend who plays knights into battling against my Stompa List. Turn 1 my Stompa killed all 3 of his knight models by literally making them laugh so hard they overloaded their core's and exploded. The Stompa win streak continues.

It was hard enough trying to find games with the already-overpowered Stompa, I'll never find a game with this massive point reduction. Guess the Stompa goes back on the shelf.

I mean, it was on the shelf. Has been on the shelf for years. I just like to take it down once in a while because it looks nice.

I understand it even makes a good tree topper for the festive season.

Gadzilla666 wrote:
The fething gargantuan squigoth is probably a better low choice for orks.

And that's saying something.

came in 2nd or 3rd place in 2018 warzone atlanta with a squigith. With index orks. LOL It could probably win events now with a real codex.

Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

 Jidmah wrote:
Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

banning it to legends

 Jidmah wrote:
Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

Just more powerful units around it. It does have clan keyword so it can benefit from kultures.

It is actually quite powerful if you have any sort of imagination. 2+ to do d6 mortal wounds to anything you charge...


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Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

banning it to legends

Is that so? If that is the case I'll shut up.

 Xenomancers wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

banning it to legends

Is that so? If that is the case I'll shut up.

you see, the chance that i am right about that makes this joke or sarcasm attempt so bittersweet, and contrasting with the changes in ca (well actually the non changes mostly in the case of FW) i feel like legends will be a darn impressive book / online doccument.

When people said that Americans don't understand sarcasm I always thought it was an exaggeration.

i think he employed further irony to reinforce his agreement with my point. And i felt it necessary to add to it.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

Just more powerful units around it. It does have clan keyword so it can benefit from kultures.

What units? Oh, and please remind me which units benefit from kultures? HINT: That is one of the reasons why the stompa is so OP.

It is actually quite powerful if you have any sort of imagination. 2+ to do d6 mortal wounds to anything you charge...

*imagines half a unit of imperial guardsmen surviving Godzilla stomping on them*

 Hollow wrote:
When people said that Americans don't understand sarcasm I always thought it was an exaggeration.

Oh come on now. Without tone it is impossible to detect sarcasm.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Hollow wrote:
When people said that Americans don't understand sarcasm I always thought it was an exaggeration.

Oh come on now. Without tone it is impossible to detect sarcasm.

There was a laughing smiley at the end though...

 Jidmah wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Please remind me what the codex does for the squiggoth?

Just more powerful units around it. It does have clan keyword so it can benefit from kultures.

What units? Oh, and please remind me which units benefit from kultures? HINT: That is one of the reasons why the stompa is so OP.

It is actually quite powerful if you have any sort of imagination. 2+ to do d6 mortal wounds to anything you charge...

*imagines half a unit of imperial guardsmen surviving Godzilla stomping on them*

My point is it wasn't getting kulturs or stratagems in the high placing warzone atlanta list. It was index orks. Now it can get more dakka + free bootas and he hitting on 4+ with 5/6 giving additional rolls to hit with zappas. Thats not too bad. It also holds 20 dudes - not a bad place to put some shoota boys.

 Hollow wrote:
When people said that Americans don't understand sarcasm I always thought it was an exaggeration.

Yup. We're incredibly humourless and incapable of taking a subtle joke that way.

 Xenomancers wrote:
My point is it wasn't getting kulturs or stratagems in the high placing warzone atlanta list. It was index orks. Now it can get more dakka + free bootas and he hitting on 4+ with 5/6 giving additional rolls to hit with zappas. Thats not too bad. It also holds 20 dudes - not a bad place to put some shoota boys.

Please explain in detail how that is supposed to work. You know, how a big squiggoth gets a kulture.
And while you're at it, which stratagems can it use?

 Jidmah wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
My point is it wasn't getting kulturs or stratagems in the high placing warzone atlanta list. It was index orks. Now it can get more dakka + free bootas and he hitting on 4+ with 5/6 giving additional rolls to hit with zappas. Thats not too bad. It also holds 20 dudes - not a bad place to put some shoota boys.

Please explain in detail how that is supposed to work. You know, how a big squiggoth gets a kulture.
And while you're at it, which stratagems can it use?

Take a supreme command with 3 SAG and a squig? It has Kulturs so any stratagem that says <clan> Unit - it can use.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Take a supreme command with 3 SAG and a squig?

Good job! At the cost of having 4 less CP and one additional tax HQ (because you need four more, right?) you can provide your LoW with a kulture!

It has Kulturs so any stratagem that says <clan> Unit - it can use.

Do you know what's funny? Because you don't know but tried to pretend that you do, your vague wording is actually wrong.
There are 0 stratagems which say <clan> unit.
There are 2 stratagems which say ORK unit. One of them explicitly prevents units with PL > 20 from using it. The other is moar dakka, which has no business being used on a terrible shooting unit like the gargantuan squiggoth - especially not if you are trying to trigger the freeboota bonus for it.
Now please stop pretending you know gak about orks, we established multiple times that you don't.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Hollow wrote:
When people said that Americans don't understand sarcasm I always thought it was an exaggeration.

Yup. We're incredibly humourless and incapable of taking a subtle joke that way.

Hey speak for yourself!

Ewww esss ayyy! Ewwww esssss ayyyyy! Ewwww essss ayyyy!

I can't believe nobody mentioned so far how the Stompas Lack of an invulnerability save makes the Callidus ability to ignore those completely pointless.

Also who in their right minds would put a moral reroll aura on an ork unit that already is THAT powerful and almost invincible. Did nobody see how morale failure was the only tool we had left to deal with ork boyz mobs?

Completely OP

The back and forth with Xeno is funnier than the original topic.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Take a supreme command with 3 SAG and a squig?

Good job! At the cost of having 4 less CP and one additional tax HQ (because you need four more, right?) you can provide your LoW with a kulture!

It has Kulturs so any stratagem that says <clan> Unit - it can use.

Do you know what's funny? Because you don't know but tried to pretend that you do, your vague wording is actually wrong.
There are 0 stratagems which say <clan> unit.
There are 2 stratagems which say ORK unit. One of them explicitly prevents units with PL > 20 from using it. The other is moar dakka, which has no business being used on a terrible shooting unit like the gargantuan squiggoth - especially not if you are trying to trigger the freeboota bonus for it.
Now please stop pretending you know gak about orks, we established multiple times that you don't.

Come to think of it deathskulls would probably be best for it. Double zap cannons. Hit with more dakka. 18 big shoota shots and 6 str 2d6 ap-4 flat 4 damage. It's also great for the SAG. I know 40k. If I played orks - (it's one of the few armies I have no interest in because it would cost me 3-4 k dollars just to get into them) I would practically never lose. Stompa is for sure bad. An actually good ork super heavy would be OP though because more dakka exists.

Pyroalchi wrote:
I can't believe nobody mentioned so far how the Stompas Lack of an invulnerability save makes the Callidus ability to ignore those completely pointless.

Also who in their right minds would put a moral reroll aura on an ork unit that already is THAT powerful and almost invincible. Did nobody see how morale failure was the only tool we had left to deal with ork boyz mobs?

Completely OP

right! and how OP that is has a 4 tier degrading stat line. i mean its so effective for those last 10 wounds that it basically goes over 9000 with its movement at a whopping 4", hitting on 6's with its 3 attacks on a melee monster.

 Jidmah wrote:
I guess people just don't know the obvious combo: Put the stompa in the mek workshop, skip a turn of shooting and then have a guaranteed* 36 shots out of the supa gatler! With a 6+ chance (4+ with stratagem) to get +1 damage, even against non-vehicles! Imperial Fists hate this trick.

*actually just 5 in 6 chance

Play two Stompas and the workshop is basically free!

It can beat a Wraithknight one-on-one.

It beats anything Marines can field one-on-one. Clearly OP.

Xeno: "If I played Orkz I would practically never lose."

-looks at the W-L ratio of Orkz in the tournament scene-

-looks at the W-L ratio of Marines in the tournament scene-

"Ok."

 flandarz wrote:
Xeno: "If I played Orkz I would practically never lose."

-looks at the W-L ratio of Orkz in the tournament scene-

-looks at the W-L ratio of Marines in the tournament scene-

"Ok."

Marines are an enigma right now. Rumors are this is their 9th eddition rules. Doesn't change the fact that orks are super strong in their own way. I dono about you but not every game I play is a tournament game ether.